I got teh jumped.

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DVad3r

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As for a weapon you can carry around the streets with you that you can get in anywhere with, I recommend a durable sock + an eight ball. Practice a bit at home with it, and you can literally crack heads open with one shot.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: crimson117
Originally posted by: thechinesehero
Originally posted by: DJFuji
dont lie...you know it was the bruce lee screams that scared him off. =)

lol... nah.. im the most non-chinese chinese person you'll ever meet... thats how i get my rican and white girls ;) unlike them other chinese losers

do chinese guys strive for white girls the way white guys long for asian babes who only seem to date asian guys?

YES

Except that most asian guys dont have enough game to get white girls. It's almost a joke among the asian male community that white girls are like the holy grail since asian girls often tend to date white guys but white girls rarely date asian guys. Oddly enough, asian girls give you dirty looks when they see you with a white girl but asian guys give you props.

I personally don't find most asian girls very attractive. Though what do i know, i've only dated white girls. I'm on a latin kick right now though. They're like the spicy version of asians. =)
I'm an American born Chinese from NY... raised in a primarily Jewish neighborhood and have stayed there. White friends all my life until college when it evened out. And you know what ? There's nothing wrong with asian chicks. There has only been 1 white chick I wanted to hook up with, but she went to MIT and was out of my league (at least I thought so and never tried). 2 others were asian chicks I met later on and I'm quite happily married to one of them.

Don't be too proud to date your own heritage if the right one comes along. Mr. Chinesehero, your reasons for continued bashing of the Chinese race remain unfounded. It doesn't make you better than the rest of your own kind.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
Originally posted by: MX2times
Originally posted by: brigden
Grow up.

Seconded

What would you do if you and two of your girlfriends were stopped on a dark street by braindead skaters? If you're thinking that we didn't try to talk them out of it, I did. I tried to settle it peacefully, but he wouldn't agree, he spit on me, then everyone joined in.

Yeah, thats true...

Again, punch them in the eye if you can.. but dont expect not to get hit either.. it works best when you strike and duck immediately as they swing wildly. Hmm I suggest taking some WingTsun (kungfu style) classes if you are interested. If you want to avoid fighting altogether, you would want to show that you can take care of them... so take something like TaeKownDo, but that'll take years of training to be efficient.

hmm.. Take Kendo... you would be able to take care of 3 or 4 of them by yourself.. but only problem is that you need to carry some sort of stick with you all the time.

meh...

The friend that was left standing takes Kendo.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is what the most vulnerable parts on a person are. Like stuff that would knock him out/temporary disorientation stuff.

- grab the wind pipe and squeeze
- press thumb behind the ear
- press thumb into the eye

fun stuff
 

FirNaTine

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If its legal in your area and you are using it for personal defense only OC (pepper spray) is effective and unlikely to cause permanent injury. I was sprayed with it for training class on how to use it and it takes the fight out of almost anyone, 15 minutes later you can be fine. OTOH any time you get ito a physical fight there is risk of permant injury and possibly death. By the way yes spitting on someone is considered assault in most areas, but you are on shaky ground for escalating the attack. Bottom line if theres any chance at all walk away.
 

DVad3r

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Aye pepper spray is good too. Especially if your faced with multiple people (which happens quite often in this day and age, gone are the good old 1v1 fights).
 

SP33Demon

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Ok, ignore all these lame posts. There is only one way to end a fight quick, and here's what you do. When they walk up and do the push thing act like you're going to push them as well, but straighten out your hand flat (like you're going to karate chop them) and jab right into their Thyroid (Adam's apple). Their immediate reaction will be to clutch their neck and you've basically won the fight and left them at your mercy. Add a palmstrike to their eye just to make sure they get the point. Plus, they can't tell the cops what happened for a week! J/K but seriously this is what I would recommend. It's incredibly quick, your hand doesn't have to go far and it will catch them by surprise unless they have hand to hand training.
 

g8wayrebel

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I am amazed at some of the responses to this question. First and foremost , don't even think about kicking in a situation where you are outnumbered, especialyy if you aren't sure it will be effective AND allow you to regain composure to address the others while still keeping them in front of you.If you don't know what you're doing , KEEP YOUR FEET ON THE GROUND. Second , never punch with your knuckles no matter what the situation.It is the impact that injures , not the density of the bone. Third , never try to hit someone in the temple,or any other part of the body not square with you, from a frontal attack.The commitment of your body weight will get you killed if the opponent has any training whatsoever. PM sent.
 

Yax

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When my little bro and his friends got jumped by like 20 guys, he popped off his shoe and swung it around, hitting anything he could. That seemed to scare the other guys a little cuz in the darkness, it looked like he was swinging a knife or some hard object. Allowed him room to get out of the crowd and run for his life.
 

akubi

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Originally posted by: g8wayrebel
Third , never try to hit someone in the temple,or any other part of the body not square with you, from a frontal attack.The commitment of your body weight will get you killed if the opponent has any training whatsoever. PM sent.

counter punch ftw!
 

Literati

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Ok, ignore all these lame posts. There is only one way to end a fight quick, and here's what you do. When they walk up and do the push thing act like you're going to push them as well, but straighten out your hand flat (like you're going to karate chop them) and jab right into their Thyroid (Adam's apple). Their immediate reaction will be to clutch their neck and you've basically won the fight and left them at your mercy. Add a palmstrike to their eye just to make sure they get the point. Plus, they can't tell the cops what happened for a week! J/K but seriously this is what I would recommend. It's incredibly quick, your hand doesn't have to go far and it will catch them by surprise unless they have hand to hand training.

Yea either do that or just straight up punch the guy in the face and try to break his nose.

If someone tried to grab my neck I would hit their hand off me so quick and so hard before they could even think of giving me some Vulcan death grip their hand would be talking to Michael J. Fox in the 80's.
 

akubi

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Originally posted by: Literati
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Ok, ignore all these lame posts. There is only one way to end a fight quick, and here's what you do. When they walk up and do the push thing act like you're going to push them as well, but straighten out your hand flat (like you're going to karate chop them) and jab right into their Thyroid (Adam's apple). Their immediate reaction will be to clutch their neck and you've basically won the fight and left them at your mercy. Add a palmstrike to their eye just to make sure they get the point. Plus, they can't tell the cops what happened for a week! J/K but seriously this is what I would recommend. It's incredibly quick, your hand doesn't have to go far and it will catch them by surprise unless they have hand to hand training.

Yea either do that or just straight up punch the guy in the face and try to break his nose.

or.. you can duck and uppercut his ballz??

 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Literati
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Ok, ignore all these lame posts. There is only one way to end a fight quick, and here's what you do. When they walk up and do the push thing act like you're going to push them as well, but straighten out your hand flat (like you're going to karate chop them) and jab right into their Thyroid (Adam's apple). Their immediate reaction will be to clutch their neck and you've basically won the fight and left them at your mercy. Add a palmstrike to their eye just to make sure they get the point. Plus, they can't tell the cops what happened for a week! J/K but seriously this is what I would recommend. It's incredibly quick, your hand doesn't have to go far and it will catch them by surprise unless they have hand to hand training.

Yea either do that or just straight up punch the guy in the face and try to break his nose.

If someone tried to grab my neck I would hit their hand off me so quick and so hard before they could even think of giving me some Vulcan death grip.
It's doubtful you would have time to react to a quick jab to your Adam's. You either expect it and try to redirect the jab or hope it misses the mark. Stocky guys with shorter arms (like me) can get this off pretty quick, especially under the element of surprise (feigning/pretending a shove).

A shot hard enough to the nose to break it would require cocking back (somewhat) and you've already telegraphed your move a mile away (to me anyhow) and leave yourself open to balance issues. Someone who's never been in a fight may panic though, depends on a lot of variables.
 

Literati

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It's doubtful you would have time to react to a quick jab to your Adam's. You either expect it and try to redirect the jab or hope it misses the mark. Stocky guys with shorter arms (like me) can get this off pretty quick, especially under the element of surprise (feigning/pretending a shove).

A shot hard enough to the nose to break it would require cocking back (somewhat) and you've already telegraphed your move a mile away (to me anyhow) and leave yourself open to balance issues. Someone who's never been in a fight may panic though, depends on a lot of variables.

Nah, you only need like 3 pounds of pressure to break a nose I think. A quick jab.

I box a little too and have been in more than a few scuffles so I guess it's safe to say we all learn from our respective fights. What works for you might not work for me and him etc.

The best advice this guy (the OP) will find in here is this.

Buy a taser.

 

iluvtruenos

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
Originally posted by: mugs
Alright let me get this straight...

1. You and 2 girls beat up 4 guys? In other words you beat up 4 guys singlehandedly?
2. You actually looked at the clock before and after the fight and noticed that it was 9:42 before the fight and 9:52 after? This is what you were worried about, the time?
3. You think 9:42 to 9:52 is 8 minutes?
4. You post this on ATOT under the pretense of being worried that it took you too long to singlehandedly beat up 4 guys?

Sounds like a thinly-veiled bragging thread to me.

Yes, let's.

1. The two girls reference was for brigden and another woman. I was using their sex.
I was with two GUYS.


2. Yes, I actually looked at the clock before because it was too dark to see my watch, and my cell died.

3. Yes, the FIGHT lasted 8 minutes. The other 2 were spent trying to rationalize.

4. wtf?


Can I put that in my sig?

iluvtruenos: "I was using their sex. I was with two GUYS."

;)

Hahah. Sure, whatever


 

exdeath

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Being that the situation was unavoidable and dispatching bad guys is not what your paid to do?

Attitude alone as gotten me out of a few scuffs, of course it helps that I'm 210 lb 6'3" and look like ex Delta.

Mind over matter always works. Nothing scares the crap out of a potential assailant more than giving it all they?ve got on their opening attack only to be looked in the eye as if nothing had happened just before you grin hysterically and begin to retaliate. Usually if you show no fear and project total confidence and control of the conflict, it's enough to scare away the typical inexperienced punks just out looking for a "good time" against defenseless soft targets.

Of course M.O.M. isn't an option for everyone...

A good basic front or side kick to the ribs will put someone down pretty fast if you break ribs. It's hard to fight when you can't breath and a broken rib is as good as a knife in the lung.

A sharp downward leg trust on top of knee such as to break and hyper extend their knee in reverse is also effective.

Pretty much anything you are taught with firearms is effective in hand to hand combat. You can disrupt an attacker?s oxygen supply (lungs, diaphragm, choke holds, broken ribs, etc), disable their skeletal structure (broken knee or pelvis), or cause significant blood loss (ruptured organs). It is universal that any of these things will stop an attack regardless of how the end result is administered.

I assume you struck the face with your fist and you found out the consequences. The frontal face is not an effective physical deterrent. It is more of a psychological deterrent in the sense of fear of disfigurement, loss of teeth or vision, etc. Go for soft targets or use your feet/knees/elbows on hard targets like the skull. Knuckle bones are very weak; just remember that if you apply sufficient force to break the attacker?s bones/skull, the body part you strike with is subject to the same forces in return, and the skull is much stronger than the fist. The back of the head and neck has a bit more padding to protect your knuckles, and at the same time produces a more immediate physical effect.

Thumbs in the eye sockets will end anything, and if you?re well versed in the ?misalignment? of the cervical spine, that always works if your life is in danger. Just use good judgment before resorting to permanent damage in much the same way you?d use a gun as a last resort.

The worst type of encounter is with someone like me who finds combat exhilarating, and psychology and pain has no effect. In this situation, if this kind of person truly intends to inflict serious injury on you, you are in trouble. The only way to stop an advance is to cause physical trauma sufficient to disrupt biological processes or immobilize the target with catastrophic structural damage.

You also have to prepare yourself mentally. When under threat of attack, you cannot be concerned with their flesh and blood, face, personality, voice, etc. You must remove the human element. When I face a potential attacker, I don?t see a person. I don?t see his face or flesh. I see the worlds deadliest organism ready to inflict harm upon me and I see a brain, a spinal cord, organs, etc., and I move to end an assault.

The biggest problem today is people will shoot you for your shoes. You can't jump into a fist fight anymore even in self defense without knowing if the other person has a concealed deadly weapon. All of you could have been killed. The days of black eyes and bloody noses are over; you have to think about the possibility of any attacker carrying a deadly weapon; which is why I carry a unconcealed .40 cal hand gun at all times.


 

BadNewsBears

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Learn to take a punch. Move towards the incoming fist. not to the other side. QUickness is the key. Just pick a point and just picture your ifst there, and move it there, keep pushing your fist all the way through the punch as well.
 

unsped

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Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
Originally posted by: MX2times
Originally posted by: brigden
Grow up.

Seconded

What would you do if you and two of your girlfriends were stopped on a dark street by braindead skaters? If you're thinking that we didn't try to talk them out of it, I did. I tried to settle it peacefully, but he wouldn't agree, he spit on me, then everyone joined in.

you can always get new girlfriends.

 

stnicralisk

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Take an application focused martial arts course (ie not american tae or aikido) like Jeet Kun Do or Wing Chun. I am currently learning from my friend who has been in some form of martial arts (and wrestling) all of his life and he pretty much swears by these two philosophies as the best to use in an actual conflict.

As far as better striking, might I suggest the chain punch?
 

stnicralisk

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Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
Originally posted by: MX2times
Originally posted by: brigden
Grow up.

Seconded

What would you do if you and two of your girlfriends were stopped on a dark street by braindead skaters? If you're thinking that we didn't try to talk them out of it, I did. I tried to settle it peacefully, but he wouldn't agree, he spit on me, then everyone joined in.

Yeah, thats true...

Again, punch them in the eye if you can.. but dont expect not to get hit either.. it works best when you strike and duck immediately as they swing wildly. Hmm I suggest taking some WingTsun (kungfu style) classes if you are interested. If you want to avoid fighting altogether, you would want to show that you can take care of them... so take something like TaeKownDo, but that'll take years of training to be efficient.

hmm.. Take Kendo... you would be able to take care of 3 or 4 of them by yourself.. but only problem is that you need to carry some sort of stick with you all the time.

meh...

The friend that was left standing takes Kendo.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is what the most vulnerable parts on a person are. Like stuff that would knock him out/temporary disorientation stuff.


Jaw line. For a quick knock out I like to attempt a technique called closing the door. Its difficult to explain but a google would likely find it.