Best Martial Arts to use in an actual conflict...
Western Boxing for hand game, Muay Thai for stand up game, and B/GJJ for ground game, period.
Best Martial Arts to use in an actual conflict...
Western Boxing for hand game, Muay Thai for stand up game, and B/GJJ for ground game, period.
If the nose is broken you have several pieces of bone in there. If you then give a hard enough uppercut the bones only have one way to go.
Hitting them in the belly to make them exhale, then knocking closed their windpipe works wonders too. Means they don't have breath left to force it back open.
Grabbing them by the ears, setting one foot on their frontmost leg, and swinging your other knee to a position as high as possible while pulling down his head by his ears can be effective too.
If you don't want to be sued for (attempted) murder you might want to use less effective methods though.
Next to the upper part of the windpipe there are nerve points, just like just below the ears. Pressing there can disable just about anyone, pressing too hard can paralyze them permanently.
Going for the eyes is effective too, as well as going for the balls. But the balls may be harder to hit hard enough, and they can recover from that. Hard to recover from losing your eyes.
There are only two kinds of fights....
1) those you wouldn't be in if you werent an immature idiot...
2) those where you have to win, and therefore no rules apply.... bite, break arms, use heavy objects....
Your fight looks like it fell under (1) how'd you manage to have enough beef with some skaterpunks to be worth a jumping?
-Max
1) those you wouldn't be in if you werent an immature idiot...
2) those where you have to win, and therefore no rules apply.... bite, break arms, use heavy objects....
Your fight looks like it fell under (1) how'd you manage to have enough beef with some skaterpunks to be worth a jumping?
-Max
Saint Nick
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meltdown75
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Originally posted by: jndietz
i am a skateboarder. don't beat my ass pleasei am a nice kid
No according to ATOT you are an ingrate skaterpunk bastard who jumps people, and cusses around women.
I got your back dude... the skater hate must stop...
-Max
we can tell posting doesn't help on the net by your post count of 7627 and growing...
Not a sermon, just an observation
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alkemyst
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Just punch the damn honker...no need to try for the bridge...a knuckle to the upper lip also does a lot.
hmm hard target I'd say....don't know the effectiveness....ear would be more of my shot aiming at the side.
rare it works on even the uneducated, women have a better chance at it if in a compromising position already.
These are staples.
You basically want to throw blows in groups of high/low combos. Also don't let up until you know the guy is not attacking back...this is why a lot of fights take long...people don't want to hurt each other and try to play too fair.
You should always try to talk first as any fight even if you win can cause permanent injury or death...but if there is no way out...just do it. I personally depending on size of the guy or group will either throw someone (falling and throwing are often enough to have a person just give up, esp if you repeat it a couple times)...or just unload on one of the larger or more 'leaderlike' guys in a group.
Definitely you don't want to go up again 4-5 guys and get a mob violence deal going against you. In these situations, people play the tough guy they are not and pull things like 'let's give him a curb job'
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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: jndietz
i am a skateboarder. don't beat my ass please
No according to ATOT you are an ingrate skaterpunk bastard who jumps people, and cusses around women.
I got your back dude... the skater hate must stop...
-Max
yeah!!! i got your back too
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For a quick crash course in basic combat skills, I suggest Krav Maga. Its used by military and police all over the world for hand to hand combat training. Its simple, takes about3 months to be really good at, and takes a agressive full contact boot camp style aproach to teaching.
After that you could persue with other kinds of martial arts to fill in the holes (BJJ/MMA, boxing, etc) But just a good basic block, punch, kick, and some basic ground fighting and joint lock skills will let you best most people (well until most people have studied martial arts)
After that you could persue with other kinds of martial arts to fill in the holes (BJJ/MMA, boxing, etc) But just a good basic block, punch, kick, and some basic ground fighting and joint lock skills will let you best most people (well until most people have studied martial arts)
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Screw all the advice on how to fight bare hands..
I've been in lot of fights and I can tell you that I win most of the time..
Here is how to win a fight. There are no rules street fighting. I carry a small box cutter on my key chain. When you are fighting, first thing you want to do take him down and act like you want to wrestle. He's gonna try to get you into headlock that's when act, slice him around the rib cage (make sure that the cutter don't stick out more than .25 inch from it's casing. During the fight, he won't realize that he's been cut, because of all the excitement. Don't cut him too much, maybe 6 inch long gash. Make sure not too deep..
The best part is maybe few minutes later, when he bleeds like a fountain. He'll turn white and start freaking out, that's when you kick his ass..
I've been in lot of fights and I can tell you that I win most of the time..
Here is how to win a fight. There are no rules street fighting. I carry a small box cutter on my key chain. When you are fighting, first thing you want to do take him down and act like you want to wrestle. He's gonna try to get you into headlock that's when act, slice him around the rib cage (make sure that the cutter don't stick out more than .25 inch from it's casing. During the fight, he won't realize that he's been cut, because of all the excitement. Don't cut him too much, maybe 6 inch long gash. Make sure not too deep..
The best part is maybe few minutes later, when he bleeds like a fountain. He'll turn white and start freaking out, that's when you kick his ass..
exdeath
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Yeah... try it... I keep my eyes on my attacker?s hands at all times and as soon as they disappear or display weapons, the USP comes out.
Regardless of who started what, the moment you escalate things and pose a deadly threat without justification, you are justifying the use of deadly force against your self in defense.
Oh, yeah, I don't wrestle.
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alkemyst
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Boxing? you can't be serious. It's all based on rules and a 'sport', I'd say Linebacker would be a better sport pick.
However, with thai boxing and most you'll find on the street an elbow or knee will end the fight right then and there.
A real street fight should never go to the ground unless you are fighting an experienced wrestler/grappler. The hugging and falling to the ground crap is the rank of amateurs/those afraid to hit and get hit.
Getting jumped implies being out-muscled by some ratio like 2 to 1 or ambushed. Like when I got jumped, I had my ass Handed to me (Capital H) by two guys who use sucker punches to get the drop on some poor unsuspecting bastard (e.g. me), just for their own amusement.
You got into a fight, and by the sound of it, a fair one.
You got into a fight, and by the sound of it, a fair one.
Golgatha
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Just remember, there is absolutely no such thing as a fair fight. I like the quick immobilization moves. Gouge eyes, break kneecaps, temples, bridge of nose, throat, pressure points, and leverage throws. For protection, keep your arms in positions that protect all the afformentioned body areas.
All that said, fighting sucks, but I know the feeling of getting jumped. Had 4 on 2 because my buddy cut off a guy parking late at night at a bowling alley. My friend didn't fare so well, but I took on three by taking the first two with bridge of nose (the first guy was comical, as he rared back his fist and swung way wide...that only works in movies) and gouging eyes. The third guy put me in a full nelson from behind, which became a headlock with him punching me in the head. He was smaller than me, so I picked him up by the balls (almost literally), threw him to the ground, and then ran to get last guy away from friend and got him inside the bowling alley. Apparently the prick who went at my buddy got to his kneecaps first, but thankfully didn't break anything.
All that said, fighting sucks, but I know the feeling of getting jumped. Had 4 on 2 because my buddy cut off a guy parking late at night at a bowling alley. My friend didn't fare so well, but I took on three by taking the first two with bridge of nose (the first guy was comical, as he rared back his fist and swung way wide...that only works in movies) and gouging eyes. The third guy put me in a full nelson from behind, which became a headlock with him punching me in the head. He was smaller than me, so I picked him up by the balls (almost literally), threw him to the ground, and then ran to get last guy away from friend and got him inside the bowling alley. Apparently the prick who went at my buddy got to his kneecaps first, but thankfully didn't break anything.
meltdown75
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Keep a goddamn bat in your trunk. That's what I do.
EDIT:
Ok, I see people are actually handing out tips. A few of mine:
1) If you're going into it, mean it. Be livid. Being pissed enough to want to tear the guy limb from limb is a big part of it. Inner animal and whatnot.
2) The best way to take a punch to the head is actually to move quickly into it, almost like you're headbutting the guy's fist. This will usually catch the punch before it reaches top power and follow through, and your cranium's motion will actually cancel a good lot of the juice from his punch. Just make sure you don't meet his knuckles with your eye or something stupid like that.
This also leaves him at a limb disadvantage - use your head (!) to deflect one arm, deflect the other with the appropriate hand, and launch a strong counter-punch up the open middle.
3) Knees are vulnerable joints. Use that.
4) As someone else mentioned, play it defensive at first. Dance around and parry a bit and let that f*cker use up energy. When an opening shows up, send in a hard one and then back out. Repeat.
5) Last but not least, remember this: Good, solid punches do not come from the shoulder, they come from the waist. Your entire body rotating behind a fist makes for a mean blow.
Also, remember that you're looking to make contact BEFORE you fully extend your arm. You're looking to punch *through* his skull, not into it.
Fortunately, other people don't know how to throw a good punch, so they'll probably be trying to keep their distance and throwing weakling punches, which means moving in closer shouldn't be too unpleasant.
A good boxing heavy bag and some hand wraps can improve a punch in only weeks of practice. They can be had at most sporting stores for $70 - $100.
EDIT:
Ok, I see people are actually handing out tips. A few of mine:
1) If you're going into it, mean it. Be livid. Being pissed enough to want to tear the guy limb from limb is a big part of it. Inner animal and whatnot.
2) The best way to take a punch to the head is actually to move quickly into it, almost like you're headbutting the guy's fist. This will usually catch the punch before it reaches top power and follow through, and your cranium's motion will actually cancel a good lot of the juice from his punch. Just make sure you don't meet his knuckles with your eye or something stupid like that.
This also leaves him at a limb disadvantage - use your head (!) to deflect one arm, deflect the other with the appropriate hand, and launch a strong counter-punch up the open middle.
3) Knees are vulnerable joints. Use that.
4) As someone else mentioned, play it defensive at first. Dance around and parry a bit and let that f*cker use up energy. When an opening shows up, send in a hard one and then back out. Repeat.
5) Last but not least, remember this: Good, solid punches do not come from the shoulder, they come from the waist. Your entire body rotating behind a fist makes for a mean blow.
Also, remember that you're looking to make contact BEFORE you fully extend your arm. You're looking to punch *through* his skull, not into it.
Fortunately, other people don't know how to throw a good punch, so they'll probably be trying to keep their distance and throwing weakling punches, which means moving in closer shouldn't be too unpleasant.
A good boxing heavy bag and some hand wraps can improve a punch in only weeks of practice. They can be had at most sporting stores for $70 - $100.
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