I Don't Know If Joe Can Do It

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Jhhnn

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Mai72 said:
That's true. Hillary was disliked, but Joe is going to have to battle the age issue which might be just as big as people disliking Hillary. Have you seen those interviews with Joe? He looks like he's forgotten his lines. In one interview he fell asleep. Joe is going to have a very difficult time debating Trump. IMO, he's going to look incomptent. Also, figure this. If Joe wins POTUS he will be in his 80s during the end of his term. Can Amnericans handle that? He's even older than Trump.
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That's concern trolling, right? Here's the interview-


Bet you never even saw it. You're just repeating the talking points. Listening with his eyes closed isn't sleeping. Debates? Not likely. The only one who could possibly benefit would be Trump & Joe doesn't need to give him the chance. Trump's self destruct sequence has already been locked in.
 
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fskimospy

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Mai72 said:
That's true. Hillary was disliked, but Joe is going to have to battle the age issue which might be just as big as people disliking Hillary. Have you seen those interviews with Joe? He looks like he's forgotten his lines. In one interview he fell asleep. Joe is going to have a very difficult time debating Trump. IMO, he's going to look incomptent. Also, figure this. If Joe wins POTUS he will be in his 80s during the end of his term. Can Amnericans handle that? He's even older than Trump.
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How on earth are you so gullible that you would believe some lie about him falling asleep? As Jhnnn mentioned did you even bother to watch it? If so, there’s no way you would think so.

You do unintentionally illustrate the biggest threat to Biden in this election though - conservatives are going to lie like crazy and some people are gullible enough to believe it.
 
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Something else we have to dispense with is the idea that Biden can't raise the kind of money he'll need for the election. The barely conscious old codger people seem convinced he is just raking in wheelbarrows of cash from online fundraisers and grassroots contributions.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1275395503694503938
 
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But does it matter the campaign needs to raise money? DNC backing. Super pac for smear ads that Biden won’t do.
 
hal2kilo

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eelw said:
But does it matter the campaign needs to raise money? DNC backing. Super pac for smear ads that Biden won’t do.
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Need money for the grassroots ground game, but that does bring up a delema with COVID-19 still out of control.
 
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It just keeps getting worse and worse for Trump with the polls. Today RCP average is Biden +9.8, 538 shows Biden +9.3. Most polls now are showing Biden with a double digit lead. This polling surge for Biden is going on about 4 weeks now. Usually these surges don't last this long.
 
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Fanatical Meat said:
**I agree I totally fit my description of a Useful Idiot**
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Yet, the vast majority of the time, people who describe themselves as you have here are considerably more intelligent than average. IMO, that is also the case in this instance.
 
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myocardia said:
Yet, the vast majority of the time, people who describe themselves as you have here are considerably more intelligent than average. IMO, that is also the case in this instance.
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Thank you this has been a tough morning.

**which also fits into my definition of a useful idiot, seeking compliments**
 
Blackjack200

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K1052 said:
The NYT/Siena polling has generally been less dire on Trump's chances but now...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1275732108187774984
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Approaching 1.5x level of support. I've been skeptical that if Trump was behind that he'd allow the election to go forward, but if he's that far behind I don't think he can stop it.

For 4 years people have wondered what could shake his base, and to be fair, it's more fragile than I thought. All it took was a botched response to the worst pandemic in a century, the largest public uprising since the civil rights protests, and tens of millions of lost jobs in a matter of months.
 
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Blackjack200 said:
Approaching 1.5x level of support. I've been skeptical that if Trump was behind that he'd allow the election to go forward, but if he's that far behind I don't think he can stop it.

For 4 years people have wondered what could shake his base, and to be fair, it's more fragile than I thought. All it took was a botched response to the worst pandemic in a century, the largest public uprising since the civil rights protests, and tens of millions of lost jobs in a matter of months.
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That's all? 😅
 
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Blackjack200 said:
Approaching 1.5x level of support. I've been skeptical that if Trump was behind that he'd allow the election to go forward, but if he's that far behind I don't think he can stop it.

For 4 years people have wondered what could shake his base, and to be fair, it's more fragile than I thought. All it took was a botched response to the worst pandemic in a century, the largest public uprising since the civil rights protests, and tens of millions of lost jobs in a matter of months.
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Yes, and despite all that, Biden only has a 50% approval rating.

Just shows you his weakness as a candidate, and the fact that he inspires no enthusiasm at all. Just an "at least he is not Trump" metric. Still not convinced that this will be sufficient to carry him until the election, especially after 5 months of unrelenting attack ads from Trump's camp regarding his competence and Hunter's dealings.
 
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All the more charismatic candidates were saying crazy shit like "universal healthcare" and taking care of poor folks. Maybe subsidizing college! *gasp*

Democrats: damned if you do, communist if you dont.
 
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Jhhnn

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ondma said:
Yes, and despite all that, Biden only has a 50% approval rating.

Just shows you his weakness as a candidate, and the fact that he inspires no enthusiasm at all. Just an "at least he is not Trump" metric. Still not convinced that this will be sufficient to carry him until the election, especially after 5 months of unrelenting attack ads from Trump's camp regarding his competence and Hunter's dealings.
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Your concern trolling is utterly transparent.
 
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Fanatical Meat

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ondma said:
Yes, and despite all that, Biden only has a 50% approval rating.

Just shows you his weakness as a candidate, and the fact that he inspires no enthusiasm at all. Just an "at least he is not Trump" metric. Still not convinced that this will be sufficient to carry him until the election, especially after 5 months of unrelenting attack ads from Trump's camp regarding his competence and Hunter's dealings.
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So is it about approval rating because the President is in the toilet on that too.
I kind of agree with your second point because deplorable’s have no shame and give no fucks. I could literally have the President on tape saying China I want your help or Russia are you listening or have recordings of him calling dudes who drink losers or a recording of him at a wedding appearing to not know the national anthem and appearing to think the crowd was signing it to him or whatever and deplorable’s will shrug and complain about AOC wearing expensive shoes or AOC not drinking beer.
 
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I still think the DNC is gonna have a contested convention and put a different candidate in. Who knows who...
Support of Trump is difficult to gauge. I do believe there are a lot of them that are quiet because of how frequently they come under attack. I just watched a new closed Trump support group on Face Book go from zero to 844,000 members in two weeks. The polls aren't really that reliable, as we know. Election night will tell all.
 
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fskimospy

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ondma said:
Yes, and despite all that, Biden only has a 50% approval rating.

Just shows you his weakness as a candidate, and the fact that he inspires no enthusiasm at all. Just an "at least he is not Trump" metric. Still not convinced that this will be sufficient to carry him until the election, especially after 5 months of unrelenting attack ads from Trump's camp regarding his competence and Hunter's dealings.
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We now have results where Biden is up by nearly FIFTEEN POINTS and you’re still talking as if he’s doomed.

This is insane.
 
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compuwiz1 said:
I still think the DNC is gonna have a contested convention and put a different candidate in. Who knows who...
Support of Trump is difficult to gauge. I do believe there are a lot of them that are quiet because of how frequently they come under attack. I just watched a new closed Trump support group on Face Book go from zero to 844,000 members in two weeks. The polls aren't really that reliable, as we know. Election night will tell all.
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Not a chance.
 
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