The reference to Hunter Biden was quite desperate. Nuthin' there & nobody cares other than the Faithful Trumpsters. Speaking of Ukraine, I hear Lev Parnas has been singing like a bird... Maybe that's why Barr is trying to derail the SDNY... It would be poetic justice if Rudy's efforts to slime Biden got him busted instead.
The reference to Hunter Biden was quite desperate. Nuthin' there & nobody cares other than the Faithful Trumpsters. Speaking of Ukraine, I hear Lev Parnas has been singing like a bird... Maybe that's why Barr is trying to derail the SDNY... It would be poetic justice if Rudy's efforts to slime Biden got him busted instead.
There was nothing there to Hillary's e-mails and very little to Benghazi, but that didnt stop Trump from using it. Do you think truth really matters to Trump and the Republicans? Or maybe you did not listen to any of the impeachment hearings, which the Republicans effectively turned into more of an attack on Hunter Biden than a trial of Trump.
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And nobody cares about Biden's son outside Trump's inner sphere....and even then, they really don't care, only want to use Hunter as a wedge. Too bad it's a wedge without any leverage.
What approval would you like to see the Dem candidate reach, and what would you say is a sign of a strong candidate? I'm not sure anyone could hit much higher approval in this partisan environment. Something like 35% of the country still approves of Trump, so they'd almost certainly never approve of any Dem. That leaves around 65% maximum, and there's always around 10% of Americans who can never make up their minds about anything.
Nobody but the Faithful give a fuck. The impeachment inoculated the electorate against that. The issue that dominates this election cycle is the pandemic & the effects on the economy. Trump played it wrong from the beginning and his abandonment of senior voters spells his doom. They're staying home, living in isolation & fear for their lives & the crazy bastard is rallying like it was 2016. Seniors can flip every purple state however they want it. Trump won them in 2016, but he won't this time.
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Definition of DEMOCRACY
government by the people : rule of the majority : such as; a form of government in which the people elect representatives to make decisions, policies, laws, etc. according to law —called also representative democracy… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com
a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
That is the commonly accepted modern definition of "democracy."
fuck that’s dumb
It’s amazing you managed to be correct about something yet still come off as an absolute idiot at the same time.
I wonder what would happen between now and the election if Trump dies.
I presume since Pence would take over in the WH, and it's so close to election it would just make Pence the primary with someone else maybe to fill in for VP.
Wonder if it would change voting polls at all....
I presume since Pence would take over in the WH, and it's so close to election it would just make Pence the primary with someone else maybe to fill in for VP.
Wonder if it would change voting polls at all....
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It sounds dumb because you've probably heard it before. That has to be at least the 20th time I've read that from people posting on social media over the years. It's a way for people who aren't all that bright to prove they are smart by "correcting" other people on a point of pedantry at best.
But it isn't even correct. You won't find a modern definition of democracy which doesn't include its representative form. A republic in modern parlance is a type of democracy.
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The republican party would have to nominate Pence. Not sure how that would work since Pence got no votes in their primary. But I'm sure there's a way for them to do it.
A more interesting question is if Trump died, not now, but after the party convention nominating him. There must still be a way for Pence to get the nomination but not sure how.
My main question is still with the polls. Would right leaning "Never trumpers" now be satisfied presumably?
Maybe more religious people that know Trump is full of shit but believe Pence to be a full hardcore Christian?
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Perhaps, in some cases. But Pence lacks Trump's "charisma" which he has in relation to a certain voting bloc. I don't see Pence getting the same turnout as Trump.
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True, he'd keep referring to the easy women as "mother" while his latent homosexuality would cause him to occasionally molest his own men.
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I saw a post a while back that referred to these people as "it's-a-republic"-ans.
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You would think, and especially democrats would think that this was the moment where it all ends for Donald Trump. I mean really.... Trump has checked off every box on the list of things a president must do to not get re-elected. Just look at the list, all the boxes are check off, yet the chances of Donald Trump wining re-election is about 50 50. If Joe were to win, Joe would need to be way ahead of Donald in the polls at this point, and even with considering the current state of the union it's still boils down to anyones guess. WTF is up with that? This should be game over for the orange cow. By the way... it just occurred to me that wouldn't this be the perfect time for Donald Trump to give one of those state of the union speeches? AMERICA, THE STATE OF THE UNION IS GOOD. NEVER MIND THE RIOTS IN THE STREETS, THOSE 100,000 DEATHS, SKYROCKETING UNEMPLOYMENT, AND HALF OF THE BUSINESSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY CLOSED.I can just hear Donald Trump claiming incredible failure equals great success during that state of the union address.
But that isn't why I posted. I post because I find it too too bad that history has failed democrats once again. Now would be the perfect most excellent time to have a democratic challenger that could really give a great speech and electrify America. Someone that could put into words what America has become and where America needs to go. And I'm sorry democrats, but Joe just doesn't cut it. Oh sure.... from time to time Joe can get off a few good ones like when Donald Trump held up the bible and Joe suggested that Donald open that bible and read it. That was a good one for joe, but smart comebacks won't get Joe Biden elected in November.
So so sooooo tragic that history is not aligned with democrats for this election. If history was kind to democrats, democrats would have someone that could really bring it all home and leave Donald Trump in the dust. Oh say, a democrat like an FDR or JFK or someone like his brother RFK. Or how about a MLK? But crap.... the historical timing this time is all screwed up for poor democrats. All that democrats have is Joe Biden when democrats really really need one of those "people politicians" from the past. And when you think about the greats, they were all democrats for the most part. You'd have to go way way back to old president Abe Lincoln to find a republican that fit the bill as a man of the people. Some might say that Ronald Reagan was in that class of people presidents, but Reagan really wasn't. Reagan was popular for pretty much the same reason that Donald Trump is popular, the ability to suppress the middle class only to appease their wealthy base. Need we be reminded of "trickle down" ???
No.... it doesn't look good for democrats and that is a crying shame because this should be a slam-dunk for democrats to rid the country of Donald Trump. JFK could do it, RFK could do it, FDR could absolutely do it, and MLK would hit that MEGA hat out of the park. But democrats don't have any of those great leaders, not for this time in history. All democrats have to work with is.... Joe Biden. And that my friends is a real democratic pisser of mass proportion. If democrats are to beat Donald Trump in November, a lot of fingers will need to be crossed, and a lot of prayers for miracles from heaven will need to be prayed. Why has history forsaken us? This is not the way it should be. At any other time democrats would be all set. Democrats would have that perfect "people candidate" to excite the country and electrify the electorate both democrat and republican. But not this time. Excuse me while I go kick something...
This is as simple as it gets...
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I HAVE A THOUGHT.....
What say you that Joe Biden being sleepy Joe (as Trump calls him) and lackluster Joe and slow Joe, that just maybe THIS is what people now want in a president? I mean.... we've had the crazy nutz president (i.e. Trump) and the shake everything up president (i.e. Trump) and the burn everything down president (i.e. Trump) and the tweeter whatever insanity comes to mind president (i.e. Trump) and the in-your-face president (i.e. Trump), so... what if sleepy president is exactly what people want after putting up with a Donald Trump for these past years? What if people desire a president who has no desire to shake anything up not even his cocktail? After Trump, I think people want a do-nothing president, an uninvolved president, a president who they will seldom ever see on their TV. Maybe people want a president that is technology ignorant and believes tweeting is something only a bird does? THAT, I DO BELIEVE is what people want in their next president, and this would explain why Joe Biden performs so well in the polls. Joe Biden is nothing exciting nor someone you'd bang a drum for, yet.... Joe is killing Trump in the polls. And I think with Trump minimizing Joe Biden's importance as a candidate and minimizing Joe Biden's abilities is exactly what the people and the country want and need in November 2020. In this Twilight Zone, ass backwards era we now live in, maybe having less is actually a plus. Maybe a negative is actually a positive. Maybe sleepy, boring, detached is just what the people want? Could THAT explain why people are now aligning with Biden and rejecting Trump?
I think so....
What say you that Joe Biden being sleepy Joe (as Trump calls him) and lackluster Joe and slow Joe, that just maybe THIS is what people now want in a president? I mean.... we've had the crazy nutz president (i.e. Trump) and the shake everything up president (i.e. Trump) and the burn everything down president (i.e. Trump) and the tweeter whatever insanity comes to mind president (i.e. Trump) and the in-your-face president (i.e. Trump), so... what if sleepy president is exactly what people want after putting up with a Donald Trump for these past years? What if people desire a president who has no desire to shake anything up not even his cocktail? After Trump, I think people want a do-nothing president, an uninvolved president, a president who they will seldom ever see on their TV. Maybe people want a president that is technology ignorant and believes tweeting is something only a bird does? THAT, I DO BELIEVE is what people want in their next president, and this would explain why Joe Biden performs so well in the polls. Joe Biden is nothing exciting nor someone you'd bang a drum for, yet.... Joe is killing Trump in the polls. And I think with Trump minimizing Joe Biden's importance as a candidate and minimizing Joe Biden's abilities is exactly what the people and the country want and need in November 2020. In this Twilight Zone, ass backwards era we now live in, maybe having less is actually a plus. Maybe a negative is actually a positive. Maybe sleepy, boring, detached is just what the people want? Could THAT explain why people are now aligning with Biden and rejecting Trump?
I think so....
If Joe stays in his basement until the election, probably wins by 10 points. If I were his manager that would be my strategy.
I strongly agree. As I've said many times this election is a referendum on Trump. The only way Trump wins is by making the alternative unacceptable.
So what should Biden do? Basically, nothing. There is no need to lay out a bold policy vision, just remain the bland, broadly acceptable alternative.
Yup. Every time he opens his mouth it's a risk. Plain and simple.
He has had so many gaffs and fuck-ups already, that it's already practically a comedy show.
And I get it - Trump has some stupid things to the point where he has normalized it.... but Biden takes it from stupid to full moron with things like "Poor kids are just as talented as white kids" and "If you don't vote for me you ain't black"... Those are EPIC levels of stupid towards the EXACT people he is targeting to vote for him.
Whatever debates we get between Trump and Biden are going to be... interesting...
Nah, not really. Any rational person who is voting for someone based on the number of stupid things they say is going to be full on, balls to the wall Biden supporter.
Trump clearly has accelerating dementia and at this point he's largely incapable of stringing together coherent thoughts while Biden is generally a fine speaker who says dumb things sometimes. It's not an even remotely close comparison.
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