You don't look to a Canadian on Shark Tank as an expert on US polling and politics? But he said the words that made gothuevos feel so warm inside so they must be true.
ecogen
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Hoping you've put some money on Trump winning, should make for some easy gains considering how sure you seem to be.
That's the thing - I'm not so sure. I'm just sure it's higher than what everybody is giving him right now. Probably as good if not better than last time.
it's everyone else who is so sure he's going to lose that is concerning, IMO.
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I would never dream of going to a Biden rally, pandemic or not. Neither would pretty much any Democrat or progressive I know. But they are all voting this year. Against Trump.
Keep in mind Obama was very popular but you didn't see Obama parades and the such either. We are reasonable thinking humans, not a cult. But we vote.
I'm still concerned about Trump winning. But I try to keep these things in mind too.
Keep in mind Obama was very popular but you didn't see Obama parades and the such either. We are reasonable thinking humans, not a cult. But we vote.
I'm still concerned about Trump winning. But I try to keep these things in mind too.
Yep. He's staging pandemic superspreader events all over the country, starting in the Rose Garden, & we're supposed to believe he gives a fuck about anything or anybody other than himself & winning the election. It's actually horrifying if you think about it much at all.
What’s your basis for this though? Is it his rallies? If so, can you explain why his rallies were super packed in 2018 en route to a blowout loss?
Biden was being interviewed by George Lopez so he was responding to the question.
In his defense, it only took Trump less than 4 years to f up the economy that it took George W Bush eight years to screw up.
Zorba
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I didn't even bother to look it up because I knew it was going to be something stupid and irrelevant.
Zorba
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Yeah, I went to a rally for Obama in 2008. Lot's of people there, but only a maybe 100 who were "all-in" and that was too much for me. I don't like treating our politicians like cult leaders or star athletes. Obviously, there was a lot of excitement for Obama in 2008.
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I don't think you understand what the term means. Neo-conservatism refers to the use of the military, foreign policies, and covert activities to control other countries. Neo-liberalism refers to the use of deregulation to enrich the local elite and onerous loan and foreign aid agreements to control other countries. Both phenomena are connected to each other and are used to make the rich richer, involve both political parties and government officials who have been operating across multiple admins, and have been in place since the Reagan administration.
That's why Bush engaged in warmongering and bailed out the rich, and Obama continued the same, with the rich recovering from bailouts at the expense of the public, profited from a rigged stock market, and feasted on the misery of other countries. Obama's allies, including Biden, and even the Republicans who purportedly support Trump, will likely want and do the same.
ecogen
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Based on what? Your ass?
No one here is sure he's going to lose, but we do recognize he's a massive underdog.
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Bloomberg parachuting into Texas and Ohio with $15M in the last week of the election.
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Commodus
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I'm explicitly familiar with both of those concepts, and my point remains completely unchanged. Neocons and neolibs aren't great; what's much, much worse is a leader eroding the very basics of democracy and the rule of law, and who genuinely believes the US government should be his personal puppet.
Biden would at least ensure there's a government left to reform by 2024. Trump has already made a shambles of things, and he's doing many of the things you've just complained about, to boot (enriching elites, reckless deregulation, making other countries suffer). If Trump gets another four years... well, if the US recovers it'll be in spite of him, not because of him.
As I like to put it: smashing the system only matters if you have a viable plan to replace it. Biden would at least restore some of the fundamentals, like lawfulness, responsible regulation and a respect for science. Trump has no plan at all... well, aside from paying off his debts at the public's expense.
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What Trump says doesn't matter, no matter how fucking nuts. But Joe is expected to be perfect, or it raises serious doubts about his ability to lead. Trump has more American flags waving at his events, he has the verbiage tailored to the deplorable voters, and he has the ability to make pointing out incorrect statements about his rivals seem like some sort of a strategy going forward for the country. When in fact it will only be more grifting, more losing, more DJT.
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hal2kilo
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Rallies. God. As if that was even a meaningful metric. Trump is hemorrhaging college educated whites, suburban women, and the 65+ crowd. These people aren't going to Biden rallies. They are going to the post office or polling booth and voting for Joe.
That's the only meaningful metric.
That's the only meaningful metric.
The day has come. Texas has officially been declared a toss up for the Presidential race based on 7 day polling averages.
Control for the Texas State House has also been listed as a toss up.
The staggering and growing vote count, the number of first time voters the majority of which are coming from blue counties and a huge increase in minority voter registration & turnout has got to be giving the GOP heartburn.
Not saying Texas will flip but it just shows how hard the map will be for the GOP on Election Day if they are struggling in a previously deep red state.
Control for the Texas State House has also been listed as a toss up.
The staggering and growing vote count, the number of first time voters the majority of which are coming from blue counties and a huge increase in minority voter registration & turnout has got to be giving the GOP heartburn.
Not saying Texas will flip but it just shows how hard the map will be for the GOP on Election Day if they are struggling in a previously deep red state.
Senate polling is fairly brutal for the GOP. There’s a chance Dems could flip both Georgia seats on election night. Its a small chance(about the same as Trump getting re-elected) thet Warnock could hit 50% and avoid the runoff in Feb. Ossoff is starting pull ahead as well. Cunningham took a slight bit but is still leading. Harrison is in good shape to beat Graham. Ernst is in serious trouble after her disaster last week. Kansas is in play. Alaska is in play. Montana is tightening.
Warnock and Kelly would both take their Senate seats in November If they win.
Warnock and Kelly would both take their Senate seats in November If they win.
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If you're familiar with those concepts, then you should also know that both have been "eroding the very basics of democracy and the rule of law" for decades, and that Biden is part of the same groups of politicians engaged in such.
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