How exactly is apple "overpriced junk?"

[dennilfloss]

I do not care for the aesthetics of the Mac laptops , nor do I like OSX and the Apple tax. I'm very happy with my Dell; good combination of looks, performance, OS & price.

 

[SP33Demon]

I use my laptops pretty relentlessly - prior to my current 13" MacBook Pro I have always pretty much killed them after 2 years or less. My MBP still looks essentially brand new after almost 3 years. Combine the stellar build quality, design and resale value and I don't understand the basis for claiming that it was "overpriced."

As an aside, for me build quality and ergonomics are more important in a laptop than having bleeding-edge hardware (though obviously I'd prefer to have both). Any computer made in the last 5 years or so will provide adequate performance for me - what I care about is a pleasant user experience, and Apple delivers that in spades.

Try dropping the MBP and talk about the build quality. Now drop a Lenovo and see which one still works. I know which one my money is on.

 

[SP33Demon]

After taking the plunge into the world of MacBook pro a couple of years ago I decided I probably won't go back until I can find a windows laptop with comparable trackpad hardware/drivers. I've yet to find one.

And how much work do you get done on that trackpad vs a regular mouse? That's what I thought.

 

[Fingolfin269]

And how much work do you get done on that trackpad vs a regular mouse? That's what I thought.

Do you think I'm working right now? lol

 

[SP33Demon]

Do you think I'm working right now? lol
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After taking the plunge into the world of MacBook pro a couple of years ago I decided I probably won't go back until I can find a windows laptop with comparable trackpad hardware/drivers.

So you're saying that a trackpad is the reason that you like your Mac so much. For what function, web surfing? Hell, ipads do that better than your Mac. My question is, what function does the trackpad serve if it's not as efficient as using a mouse for work nor as effective for surfing the web as a touchscreen? Many in this thread are enamored by the trackpad, so give me a good reason as to why it's invaluable and has made you a Mac consumer.

 

[M0RPH]

Can someone please educate me what big deal is about Apple trackpads? The trackpad on my Dell works just fine for me, although 95% of the time I'm using a mouse anyway.

As for OSX, it seems like you can do the same thing with OSX or Windows, except for one glaring difference... Gaming, which sucks on the Mac. On my windows laptop I have access to an almost unlimited supply of good, cheap games on Steam.

 

[Sunburn74]

I am extremely happy with my HP Envy 14 from 2010. I bought it on HP's outlet store for 600 dollars. The machine was immaculate physically. I love the trackpad, the backlit keyboard, pretty much everything. I threw in a SSD and 4gb of additional ram for fun. The only issue I've had was the fan noise got a bit loud after a few months and I disassembled the laptop (that's right), reapplied thermal paste, and reassembled the laptop.

Personally I'll never buy a mac machine. I'm not a big trackpad guy (windows really isn't designed for trackpads honestly) and the ENVY has a very good one (contrary to reports out there). However the one thing that frustrates me to no end is how windows machines get abandoned in terms of software support after 1 year post release. The sheer number of machines out there with their user bases crying for a bios update or a driver update is crazy high.

BTW in terms of overpriced, don't forget that for long periods of time apple was still fitting their laptops with core 2 duos when everyone has 2-3 generations of intel chips past that. Yet the price of the apple laptops was well exceeding the price of the much better specced machines. I honestly believe it was just like 1.5 years ago that apple finally stopped using core 2 duos right?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Try dropping the MBP and talk about the build quality. Now drop a Lenovo and see which one still works. I know which one my money is on.

Not sure if serious. Thinkpad quality has gone down hill with Lenovo.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Not sure if serious. Thinkpad quality has gone down hill with Lenovo.

Nope.avi

 

[Ns1]

Can someone please educate me what big deal is about Apple trackpads? The trackpad on my Dell works just fine for me, although 95% of the time I'm using a mouse anyway.

multi touch gestures + smooth as silk

2 finger scroll on a dell trackpad is nothing like 2 finger scroll on an apple trackpad

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

multi touch gestures + smooth as silk

2 finger scroll on a dell trackpad is nothing like 2 finger scroll on an apple trackpad

Yet the Apple TrackPad is still inferior to a TrackPoint, so why are we all here arguing?

 

[Sunburn74]

So what? How much would you pay to upgrade a non apple laptop with apple's trackpad? Put a finite value on it and you'll see Apple's hardware is still overpriced.

I love my ENVY's trackpad, but honestly I'd pay no more than 50 dollars to upgrade it to a theoretically perfect trackpad.

 

[Maximilian]

People who buy crapple products are morons.

Fact

 

[Mike Gayner]

LOL apple threads.

 

[SSSnail]

I use a mouse.

 

[0roo0roo]

http://arstechnica.com/hardware/new...illion-plan-to-beat-apple-at-its-own-game.ars

 

[Ns1]

So what? How much would you pay to upgrade a non apple laptop with apple's trackpad? Put a finite value on it and you'll see Apple's hardware is still overpriced.

I love my ENVY's trackpad, but honestly I'd pay no more than 50 dollars to upgrade it to a theoretically perfect trackpad.

I bought a trackpad to replace my mouse for $70, so that's about what I value it at.

I get a shit ton of productivity out of said trackpad, so it's pretty worth it to me.

 

[-Slacker-]

OP: Sexually insecure douchebag much? Here's a little tip: You have over 10.000 posts and you're in a thread constantly patronizing people for disliking your preferred brand of computers; You're not as alpha as you think.

 

[suse920]

So what? How much would you pay to upgrade a non apple laptop with apple's trackpad? Put a finite value on it and you'll see Apple's hardware is still overpriced.

I love my ENVY's trackpad, but honestly I'd pay no more than 50 dollars to upgrade it to a theoretically perfect trackpad.

This is my first Macbook Pro, and I currently run OSX 70% and Windows 7 30% via bootcamp
I appreciate and despise the pros and cons of each operating system.

The trackpad really is amazing on the MBP. Ive owned both dell and sony laptops prior to this and there really is no comparison. (not sure what improvements have been made in the past 3 years) For me a perfect trackpad would be worth around $200 on a laptop. Based on the amount of time I spend using my machine over the course of 4ish years, I would rather pay $200 upfront than have awful usability for 4 years.

Another huge factor for me is battery life. When purchasing my laptop I couldn't find a windows product that would give me 5 or 6 hours of real world battery life without a huge tumor protruding from my machine. (with comparable specs)

I actually do use my laptop on the go, and not worrying about charging, or needing a mouse to be somewhat productive is very valuable. Give me a windows 8 laptop with 7+ hours of battery life, a comparable trackpad, a 15 inch screen, SSD, and a dedicated graphics card in a year or two when I need a replacement. Then we'll see how much I value OSX and shiny aluminum.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

And how much work do you get done on that trackpad vs a regular mouse? That's what I thought.

We have a few that were dropped at my work. Unibody and dents arent pretty lol

 

[videogames101]

Either you care about performance, or you don't.

 

[dwell]

Can someone please educate me what big deal is about Apple trackpads? The trackpad on my Dell works just fine for me, although 95% of the time I'm using a mouse anyway.

Mac trackpads are smooth as glass (because they are, well, glass). The feedback between swiping with your fingers and getting a result on screen is perfect. It's what you get when the hardware works perfectly in concert with the OS.

All PC trackpads I've tried take effort to use.

As for performance I don't really care as long as it's not slow. My MacBook Air feels like the fastest computer I've ever owned, mostly due to the SSD. I had it for three months before I looked up whether it was dual or quad core. I had no idea and it really makes no difference to me.

I run all sorts of heavy tasks on both this 13" MBA and my 11" at work such as huge builds, local map-reduce jobs, multiple servers, etc. and never felt it was slow.

Games are one thing it does not do but that's not a concern of mine. I have a HTPC, Xbox, PS3, Wii, iPad, iPod Touch etc. for games.

 

[Fingolfin269]

So you're saying that a trackpad is the reason that you like your Mac so much. For what function, web surfing? Hell, ipads do that better than your Mac. My question is, what function does the trackpad serve if it's not as efficient as using a mouse for work nor as effective for surfing the web as a touchscreen? Many in this thread are enamored by the trackpad, so give me a good reason as to why it's invaluable and has made you a Mac consumer.

But why does my reasoning even matter to you? I've asked for an alternative with a comparable trackpad not a judgment on my purchasing decision. It's funny how these threads always turn out.

And for the record, in regards to work, that's what my work supplied Lenovo is for.

 

[alkemyst]

And how much work do you get done on that trackpad vs a regular mouse? That's what I thought.

actually for productivity many are even replacing external mice with external trackpads.

Most that don't understand either don't do productivity type work or have been under a rock for the last decade of trackpad development and the gestures they use today.

 

[Spikesoldier]

ITT: you can tell who the apple users are by the immaturity