How do we feel about papa joe this far into his presidency, would you vote for him in reelection?

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eelw

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By doing nothing you mean continuing most of Trump’s policies while having to fight states in court to change anything? What specifically should Biden have done differently that actually complies with the US’s laws and treaty obligations?
One thing I agree with John Bolton about this is that one has to declare asylum at the first border they cross. So don’t get how people from South American countries can claim asylum after crossing half a dozen borders.
 

brycejones

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One thing I agree with John Bolton about this is that one has to declare asylum at the first border they cross. So don’t get how people from South American countries can claim asylum after crossing half a dozen borders.

Asylum is about safety, I think it’s pretty difficult to argue that many of those countries are safe and stable for the people seeking asylum.
 

fleshconsumed

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One thing I agree with John Bolton about this is that one has to declare asylum at the first border they cross. So don’t get how people from South American countries can claim asylum after crossing half a dozen borders.
When the entire region is run by drug cartels it's not safe to move to the next country.
 
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fskimospy

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Biden is enforcing US immigration law, unlike Trump. If republicans would like to change immigration law Democrats are, as always, open to a deal.

Until Republicans present that deal, shut the fuck up. You’re adults, take ownership of your decisions. Immigration law is now it is now because conservatives want it that way so they can whine about it.
 

Lezunto

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Joe Biden could have a least tried to give $2 billion that New York City's Mayor asked for to cover the costs of housing the migrants.

Yeah, yeah. There's no money for citizens. U.S. The situation in New York City is ridiculous. Migrants ordering the city to let them live where they want while they snap up free cell phones, three star hotel rooms and thumb their nose at our laws.

Biden did nothing. But at least he shot down the spy balloon.
 
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NWRMidnight

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Joe Biden could have a least tried to give $2 billion that New York City's Mayor asked for to cover the costs of housing the migrants.

Yeah, yeah. There's no money for citizens. U.S. The situation in New York City is ridiculous. Migrants ordering the city to let them live where they want while they snap up free cell phones, three star hotel rooms and thumb their nose at our laws.

Biden did nothing. But at least he shot down the spy balloon.
Biden doesn't make the laws, Congress does.
 

Lezunto

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I was not asking for a new law. I said Biden could have at least tried to get New York City the money its Mayor asked for. He can authorize emergency expenditures as well as mouth off.

I knew this chit would happen in NYC. I just knew it. I am sure AOC and her dopey ass band of Progressives are giggling.
 

fskimospy

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I was not asking for a new law. I said Biden could have at least tried to get New York City the money its Mayor asked for. He can authorize emergency expenditures as well as mouth off.

I knew this chit would happen in NYC. I just knew it. I am sure AOC and her dopey ass band of Progressives are giggling.
If Adams asked for $2 billion that’s insane. Also, if he were given $2 billion Adams would have wasted $1.9 billion of it hiring various friends and family members to oversee it.
 

brycejones

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Joe Biden could have a least tried to give $2 billion that New York City's Mayor asked for to cover the costs of housing the migrants.

Yeah, yeah. There's no money for citizens. U.S. The situation in New York City is ridiculous. Migrants ordering the city to let them live where they want while they snap up free cell phones, three star hotel rooms and thumb their nose at our laws.

Biden did nothing. But at least he shot down the spy balloon.

Your post is a few fries short of a happy meal.
 

FelixDeCat

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Joe Biden could have a least tried to give $2 billion that New York City's Mayor asked for to cover the costs of housing the migrants.

Yeah, yeah. There's no money for citizens. U.S. The situation in New York City is ridiculous. Migrants ordering the city to let them live where they want while they snap up free cell phones, three star hotel rooms and thumb their nose at our laws.

Biden did nothing. But at least he shot down the spy balloon.

Nevermind America's problems like the hungry and growing numbers of homeless. We need free and open borders. Cant you see the logic in that? Sure the United States and NYC continue to lease more hotel and motel spaces to house migrants while Americans sleep on the street but catch and release program requirements must be met!

 
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ivwshane

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Nevermind America's problems like the hungry and growing numbers of homeless. We need free and open borders. Cant you see the logic in that? Sure the United States and NYC continue to lease more hotel and motel spaces to house migrants while Americans sleep on the street but catch and release program requirements must be met!

Lol says the guy that votes for the party whose only legislative accomplishments is a voting to denounce socialism. Like how fucking dumb are you bro?!
 

brycejones

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Nevermind America's problems like the hungry and growing numbers of homeless. We need free and open borders. Cant you see the logic in that? Sure the United States and NYC continue to lease more hotel and motel spaces to house migrants while Americans sleep on the street but catch and release program requirements must be met!


Another dishonest post from Felix with faux concern about the poor.

Checks calendar, yep another day that ends in "y".
 

FelixDeCat

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What should he do differently?

This has been the question of the ages since homelessness been a problem for eternity. Some have mental problems, others are addicted to drugs, some just need some help with stability so they can successfully seek reemployment. Sometimes even then that is not enough as some jobs simply dont pay enough to pay the sky high rents in certain parts of the country. Its hard to pay rent on one income.

As you know there are now more homeless people than ever. While I am not an expert on the issue, Ive tried to get insight into the problem by watching hours and hours of videos on Youtube over the years.

You have the full gamut of people trying to provide even the smallest solutions to help. One video I remember in particular was a man who purchased an undeveloped plot of land near the outskirts of a major city. He started building tiny wooden shacks on it and let anyone stay in them to get out of the elements and keep their belongings. Many homeless people started to move in and were enjoying the tiny places to stay. Unfortunately he did not have city permission to erect the structures and the land was not properly zoned. The next thing you know the bulldozers and police show up, evicting everyone and destroying their belongings as the home were razed.

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NWRMidnight

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I was not asking for a new law. I said Biden could have at least tried to get New York City the money its Mayor asked for. He can authorize emergency expenditures as well as mouth off.

I knew this chit would happen in NYC. I just knew it. I am sure AOC and her dopey ass band of Progressives are giggling.
But you are, because it's the laws that Biden's administration has been following that helped create the very problem you are bitching about Biden not doing anything about. Which means Congress is the only ones who can fix the problem. Of course, the Good Old State of Texas has played a large roll in the problems in New York as well...

You should really take some time and learn about a President's emergency powers, what it take for him to have such powers (legally), and what he can and can't do with those powers, which also includes emergency expenditures.. (hint.. I am pretty confident, this is not one of them.. what you expect requires action from Congress, not Biden).
 

fskimospy

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This has been the question of the ages since homelessness been a problem for eternity. Some have mental problems, others are addicted to drugs, some just need some help with stability so they can successfully seek reemployment. Sometimes even then that is not enough as some jobs simply dont pay enough to pay the sky high rents in certain parts of the country. Its hard to pay rent on one income.

As you know there are now more homeless people than ever. While I am not an expert on the issue, Ive tried to get insight into the problem by watching hours and hours of videos on Youtube over the years.

You have the full gamut of people trying to provide even the smallest solutions to help. One video I remember in particular was a man who purchased an undeveloped plot of land near the outskirts of a major city. He started building tiny wooden shacks on it and let anyone stay in them to get out of the elements and keep their belongings. Many homeless people started to move in and were enjoying the tiny places to stay. Unfortunately he did not have city permission to erect the structures and the land was not properly zoned. The next thing you know the bulldozers and police show up, evicting everyone and destroying their belongings as the home were razed.

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Biden does not control local zoning ordinances.

That being said it would be quite easy to solve most homelessness - just remove restrictions on building homes.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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This has been the question of the ages since homelessness been a problem for eternity. Some have mental problems, others are addicted to drugs, some just need some help with stability so they can successfully seek reemployment. Sometimes even then that is not enough as some jobs simply dont pay enough to pay the sky high rents in certain parts of the country. Its hard to pay rent on one income.

As you know there are now more homeless people than ever. While I am not an expert on the issue, Ive tried to get insight into the problem by watching hours and hours of videos on Youtube over the years.

You have the full gamut of people trying to provide even the smallest solutions to help. One video I remember in particular was a man who purchased an undeveloped plot of land near the outskirts of a major city. He started building tiny wooden shacks on it and let anyone stay in them to get out of the elements and keep their belongings. Many homeless people started to move in and were enjoying the tiny places to stay. Unfortunately he did not have city permission to erect the structures and the land was not properly zoned. The next thing you know the bulldozers and police show up, evicting everyone and destroying their belongings as the home were razed.

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So your answer is shanty towns? Conservatives really do want to turn the US into a 3rd world country.
 

FelixDeCat

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Biden does not control local zoning ordinances.

That being said it would be quite easy to solve most homelessness - just remove restrictions on building homes.

I did not say Biden controls zoning ordinances. But to cite an example, Houston is the largest American city not to have them, yet homelessness persists.

There is no one solution to the problem and I have mentioned some of the reasons as those who have mental problems. Problems that keep people from wanting help or understand what kind of help they can get if any. From what I've read, a long time ago there were state run faculties that housed the kind of people with mental problems but many saw them as less than ideal and many were eventually closed because of poor treatment and conditions. But if you are in that situation, where do you go? Sure your situation sucks, but you have food and a place to stay in a state facility. As opposed to getting no help and all on the street.

Then you have the drug addicts whose only goal is to get high. I have long opposed the legalization of street drugs, but we have what we have so here we are. How do you house a drug addict? Do you allow them to stay in a facility so long as they dont use drugs at that location?

Finally there are those who are young and relatively good health that have a good chance of getting a job but need a stable place to stay. Affordable housing would probably help the most here.
 
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