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HomerJS

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Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion.

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?
Hey dumbbell don't act like this is unique to the Biden's. I give you...

Michael Powell
Eugene Scalia
George W. Bush
Bush Twins

Put in high profile positions most likely helped by politically connected fathers. Biden is following suit.

What laws did Hunter Biden break?? The investigation was into the company of which Hunter was a member. That investigation ended 2 years before Biden was put on the board.

Any more conspiracies you want to pull out of your ass??
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
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Defending Trump is like defending a known klepto on trial where a series of vid clips are shown where the klepto is recorded repeatedly stealing things.

Problem being, the klepto IS Trump with millions of folks demanding they be allowed to testify as character witnesses on his behalf proclaiming how Trump is innocent of all charges because he is a stable genius whose character is being attacked by the fake new media using doctored video to steal *their* election victory away from *them*.
 

Puffnstuff

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Trump is like a known pedophile wearing a trench coat flashing children at the school playground. The parents complain and he tells you what he did yet nobody wants to do anything because it wasn't their kid that got flashed.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Trump is like a known pedophile wearing a trench coat flashing children at the school playground. The parents complain and he tells you what he did yet nobody wants to do anything because it wasn't their kid that got flashed.

Well, he's just trolling the kids for the lulz, it's you whose delicate sensibilities were offended. And it's fake news anyways, and a conspiracy....and if it was true who cares anyways, he's the president....and we have it on good authority that the president can't commit crimes.
 

cytg111

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Just so I understand Hunter Biden shouldn’t be doing business when his father is VP of the US
While it’s perfectly fine for PRESIDENT Trump, to do business WHILE HE IS FUCKING PRESIDENT, okay to have Government People stay at his properties and not for free, it’s okay that the Presidents Daughter has gotten patents from China nobody else has been able to so easily do, it’s perfectly fine that the Presidents Son runs HIS FUCKING BLIND TRUST, it’s perfectly fine the President Son in Law runs an international business.
Am I correct about the above?
Pssst... Standards apply for you. Not for me.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion.

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?
Indoctrination levels not seen since 1945
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Trump and his acolytes have a serious problem regarding the time line of all these events and Hunter Biden's access to the board. Everything was cleared before he even arrived. The corrupt prosecutor was ousted before this.

Trump and his lawyers have mashed all the events into one moment, all related, and it is a complete lie. His followers here and everywhere believe it, but it's nothing more than a fantasy. Unfortunately for them, these events are prosecuted on the facts, not the predictable fantasies of shit-eating conservative acolytes. They are flailing about angry because they don't understand why the world doesn't believe the lies they believe. They will only get angrier when their POTUS is in prison, and this is all that Trump has and what he is trying to do--he's gaslit these idiots into doing violence on his behalf, no matter the cost.

Trumpists are going to get more and more violent, the angrier they get after their lies are squashed by the real world.
 

FelixDeCat

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Take it up with the DOJ / FBI. You know, the legal channels for law enforcement.

Trump's circumvention of those agencies in addressing his POLITICAL OPPONENT and his family, is corruption pure and simple.

Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.
 

interchange

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.

Lol. This is why there's an inquiry. They are investigating. Perhaps, there may be more findings to support impeachment as a result of the inquiry.
 

fskimospy

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Lol. This is why there's an inquiry. They are investigating. Perhaps, there may be more findings to support impeachment as a result of the inquiry.

Also, what is more worthy of impeachment than corruptly using your powers of office to help ensure that you stay in office? He knew exactly what he was doing too, that’s why he sent his private attorney to pressure Ukraine and not a federal agency.

Now that we know there were other calls with foreign leaders that merited the ‘classify in order to hide’ treatment the next steps have to be determining who they were with and what other offenses he may have committed on them.
 

ivwshane

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.

Let me see if I understand your logic here: so asking a foreign government to investigate a political opponent doesn’t warrant an impeachment but investigating the president for violating the law, a duty set forth by the constitution, constitutes election meddling?

You people are fucked in the head.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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Let me see if I understand your logic here: so asking a foreign government to investigate a political opponent doesn’t warrant an impeachment but investigating the president for violating the law, a duty set forth by the constitution, constitutes election meddling?

You people are fucked in the head.
The level of cognitive dissonance is absolutely stunning.
 
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HomerJS

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.
Add to what we know the fact Trump does not care Russia interfered in the 2016 election is proof he is intentionally failing at his basic duties to protect the country, makes it impeachable.
 

brycejones

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.
He didn’t do it, but even if he did, it isn’t a big deal.
 
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feralkid

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment.
Oh, but is does, Madge...it does.

Or do you prefer the 1972 version of the same thing: "Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about Ellsberg's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment".
 
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zinfamous

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.

this absolutely rises to the level of impeachment. What possible argument could you make that it doesn't?

Iv'e yet to see you do so, just claim that it doesn't, based on....who the fuck knows what your brain is doing.
 

Stopsignhank

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.

And watergate was just a 3rd rate burglary.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.

It was inappropriate to mention Biden and more than that in trying to tag Joe for Trump's desire to enlist Zelensky to bring Biden down or put Ukraine at risk to Russia, which is what withholding Javelins were intended to do.

The timeline shows Trump called Putin two days later. Considering Trump's comfort with the corrupt Putin and their mutual self interest, those calls are now fair game thanks to Trump's actions. Take the server to a SCIF and have select members of the House intelligence committee to review them and act as the conversations warrant. Only relevant portions would be permitted in an impeachment setting. No staff, no one but two to four House members. Remember that Executive Privilege has been determined in "Nixon" as inapplicable in the impeachment so there is no legal defense whatsoever. What is properly classified as being national security issues such as covert ops are still under protection, but not political statements of relevance.

Since only the facts as stated and are relevant to possible impeachment are subject to action, this should satisfy you as you believe Trump only acted properly. It could clear him if there's no "there there"
 

kage69

Lifer
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I hope people like Rudy Giuliani and Kevin McCarthy keep flapping their gums, what a shit show of lies and bullshit. Just, wow. Trump never sounds like he has any idea wtf he's talking about, his enablers now sound equally as lost. Is the syphilis dementia spreading? I mean I get why they are scared, but it seems like they are taking a pass on reality completely when trying to defend Trump's crimes now.

The Civil War stuff is pretty funny. Trumptards: this is why you don't get behind a lying criminal. Think he's entitled to break the law? Tough shit. Team Treason, on top of the mental deficiencies, is grossly outnumbered by the rest of the country, which is tired and fed up with this loser breaking laws and making a mockery of our democracy. It won't be a civil war situation, it will be a "clean up the incels/KKK/Nazis" situation. Better pick the wildlife refuge you'll invade carefully guys, maybe bring supplies this time? Anyone who picks this traitor over their country is welcome to catch a bullet or lengthy prison sentence in my book, won't bother me at all. The country and the gene pool will be better off.
 

snoopy7548

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The people you stand behind and defend are a reflection of your true character. These people defending Trump are scumbags, and people like Slow and Felix are worse, as they've likely never even met Trump but somehow still argue for him.
 
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kage69

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The people you stand behind and defend are a reflection of your true character. These people defending Trump are scumbags, and people like Slow and Felix are worse, as they've likely never even met Trump but somehow still argue for him.

Speaking of, when this is all over, I'd like to shake Adam Schiff's hand and thank him for his service. With so much deceit, corruption and malignant greed trying to hamstring our democracy, it's nice to see a competent public servant who hasn't forfeited honor, duty or integrity for political or personal gain.
 
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Sunburn74

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.
Actually it does. Impeachment is all about the need to remove a president from office.

This case revolves around the following things which are already established:
1) direct abuse of presidential power and misallocation of US tax payer dollars for personal gain. Keep in mind this is PERSONAL gain. Not national security interests or foreign policy interests. It was for PERSONAL gain.
2) extortion
3) solicitation of campaign contributions from a foreign power with a conspiracy to cover it up
4) corruption of the state department and DOJ

How is that not impeachable? Direct abuse of presidential power is what led to nixon resigning. This case is worse! It's worse!
 
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Jhhnn

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Perhaps it was inappropriate for the president to ask about the Biden's shady dealings, but it does not rise to the level of impeachment. Now the Democrats want to interfere with an election with this non-sense, since they could not win the election otherwise.

Trump & Giuliani knew they were breaking the law in soliciting campaign dirt from a foreign govt. Strong arming that govt just makes it worse.They did it anyway & tried to cover it up. We can't accept such conduct from any President.
 
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