House set to begin formal impeachment hearings

[FelixDeCat]

Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion.

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?

 

[fskimospy]

Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion?

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?

Because the things you are saying are demonstrably false. The Ukrainian prosecutor was removed precisely because he WASN’T investigating corruption, not the other way around.

Since we are talking about Ukraine though if Trump didn’t think what he was doing was wrong why do you think he sent his personal attorney to pressure the Ukrainian government instead of government officials?

I imagine you agree that’s astoundingly corrupt too, right? Just want to confirm you’re also in favor of impeachment and conviction.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Because the things you are saying are demonstrably false.

Um, no they are not:

Biden Faces Conflict of Interest Questions That Are Being Promoted by Trump and Allies (Published 2019)

As vice president, Joe Biden played a key role in the dismissal of a Ukrainian prosecutor who had opened an investigation of a company employing Mr. Biden’s son.

www.nytimes.com

WASHINGTON — It was a foreign policy role Joseph R. Biden Jr. enthusiastically embraced during his vice presidency: browbeating Ukraine’s notoriously corrupt government to clean up its act. And one of his most memorable performances came on a trip to Kiev in March 2016, when he threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine’s leaders did not dismiss the country’s top prosecutor, who had been accused of turning a blind eye to corruption in his own office and among the political elite.
The pressure campaign worked. The prosecutor general, long a target of criticism from other Western nations and international lenders, was soon voted out by the Ukrainian Parliament.

Among those who had a stake in the outcome was Hunter Biden, Mr. Biden’s younger son, who at the time was on the board of an energy company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch who had been in the sights of the fired prosecutor general.

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Hunter Biden was a Yale-educated lawyer who had served on the boards of Amtrak and a number of nonprofit organizations and think tanks, but lacked any experience in Ukraine and just months earlier had been discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine. He would be paid as much as $50,000 per month in some months for his work for the company, Burisma Holdings.

 

[Greenman]

I'm actually looking forward to the hearings and all the questions being answered.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm actually looking forward to the hearings and all the questions being answered.

I'm looking forward to the Administration defying the House in impeachment investigations, the Judiciary and the Constitution proper.

Why? Because that would be within the norm for them and so a good slap down perhaps including arrests would be something to see.

 

[kage69]

Team Treason wants people to believe the Ukrainian prosecutor was actually doing his job, that he wasn't a Yanukovych lackey, and that there wasn't an international (excepting Russia of course) consensus that crook had to go.

So weak. Listening to Jim Jordan try to sell that steaming pile of monkey shit to Jake Tapper was pretty funny. Jordan's delusional regurgitation of GOP fantasy They can't seem to deal with the facts again, the usual dreck about Supreme court seats and claiming to speak for all American sentiment always seems to bubble up like floating scum. The TDS is cringeworthy here.

Republicans are broken, worthless Americans. Better hope agnostics and atheists are right, because this kind of ridiculous criminal behavior to fuck over America probably won't go over well in that 'pearly gates' situation. You've had both time and answers in quantity to bring your egos to heel, accept reality in light of new information and quit putting party over country. But you just hold onto that sinking ship even tighter. Sad.

 

[Jhhnn]

Referencing Biden at all at this point is just the whatabout innuendo of deflection. The only reason Trump ever went there was for campaign dirt, not any issues of honest jurisprudence or national security. That's highly illegal & he knew it when he did it.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:30121%20edition:prelim)

Maybe he should try the Nixon defense-

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Um, no they are not:

Biden Faces Conflict of Interest Questions That Are Being Promoted by Trump and Allies (Published 2019)

As vice president, Joe Biden played a key role in the dismissal of a Ukrainian prosecutor who had opened an investigation of a company employing Mr. Biden’s son.

www.nytimes.com

Oh the fraud you and Trump have perpetrated. It's known throughout the world except in Trumpettes heads that Biden was assigned the task of putting pressure on to get a world recognized leader of corruption which would be in the world and NATIONAL INTEREST, which is LEGAL and PROPER. As Trump did this on his own in HIS PERSONAL self interest he committed a legitimate urgent and critical impeachable situation.

Too bad so sad for you and yours.

 

[zinfamous]

Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion.

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?

Why are you promoting lies and preposterously misconstrued events?

 

[zzyzxroad]

Why are you promoting lies and preposterously misconstrued events?

Dishonesty, stupidity or perhaps both.

 

[fskimospy]

Um, no they are not:

Biden Faces Conflict of Interest Questions That Are Being Promoted by Trump and Allies (Published 2019)

As vice president, Joe Biden played a key role in the dismissal of a Ukrainian prosecutor who had opened an investigation of a company employing Mr. Biden’s son.

www.nytimes.com

No, Biden’s company was not being investigated by him when the prosecutor was fired.

Do you have any thoughts as to why Trump was using his private lawyer to pressure foreign governments?

Again, can you confirm support for impeachment?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion.

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?

Because its a foreign country and that foreign country has said Hunter Biden was never under investigation.
Lets turn this around a bit. Why didn't the Republican Controlled House for the first two years and currently controlled Senate and Justice Department not do something?

 

[Jhhnn]

Why are you promoting lies and preposterously misconstrued events?

Because he's a troll. Hunter Biden didn't resign, anyway. His term on the board of Burisma expired. The issues wrt Burisma weren't about what the company was doing at the time of Biden's tenure, either, but about their conduct under the Yanukovych regime, Putin's man in Ukraine & Manafort's employer.

I'm sure payoffs were obligatory for any large business. It's all just diversion from Trump's demonstrated contempt for the Law & the Constitution.

 

[kage69]

Why are you promoting lies and preposterously misconstrued events?

The swamp isn't supplied by riparian sources. It's maintained with buckets.

And look at the drones go.

 

[ivwshane]

And this is why he gets nothing permanent done. Nearly everything he has done will be erased by the next President because it’s mostly executive orders.
Trump could have had such a great accomplishment list.
All he had to do was agree to immigration reform and a daca fix for a lot of wall funding. This was offered to him in his first meetup with Chuck & Nancy.
The President could have easily sold the Republican Party on immigration reform.
That first compromise could have lead to other great compromises, like infrastructure, VA system, prison reform, student debt. He literally could have gotten credit for great things but he chose not to.

Small people usually aren't able to think big.

 

[JEDI]

I'm looking forward to the Administration defying the House in impeachment investigations, the Judiciary and the Constitution proper.

Why? Because that would be within the norm for them and so a good slap down perhaps including arrests would be something to see.

um.. what exactly could anyone do to Trump even if he defies the Supreme Court???

who could arrest the President? US MArshals?
What if the Pres orders his Secret Service to prevent his arrest by US MArshals?

 

[JEDI]

I hear that Nancy Pelosi wants to fast track impeachment and be done by end of year.
WHY?!
Senate will vote to NOT convict Trump and Trump will have all election year to tout that fact! WTF?

 

[Sunburn74]

Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion.

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?

Legal counsel may refer to more than just actual knowledge of law. For example if you are in a lawsuit against a healthcare organization part of your legal counsel team may be a doctor or a nurse or a health care administrator.

You are generating salacious innuendo from conspiracy theories coming from the someone who is known to espouse lies and falsities on a daily basis.

 

[brycejones]

Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion.

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?

Um, no they are not:

Biden Faces Conflict of Interest Questions That Are Being Promoted by Trump and Allies (Published 2019)

As vice president, Joe Biden played a key role in the dismissal of a Ukrainian prosecutor who had opened an investigation of a company employing Mr. Biden’s son.

www.nytimes.com

Its entertaining how you didn't bother to include any sourcing for your most serious accusation of impropriety by the Bidens. Why is that?

 

[uclaLabrat]

I hear that Nancy Pelosi wants to fast track impeachment and be done by end of year.
WHY?!
Senate will vote to NOT convict Trump and Trump will have all election year to tout that fact! WTF?

My guess is to put Senate in play by getting low turnout voters off the fence. Put all the crimes on display in front of the Senate and make the repubs own the acquittal if they're brave enough. Never waste a good crisis. The ensuing disgust might be enough to flip some seats by engaging low-propensity voters who are turned off by blatant corruption/crime.

Not saying I think it will work, but I see the strategy.

 

[theeedude]

I hear that Nancy Pelosi wants to fast track impeachment and be done by end of year.
WHY?!
Senate will vote to NOT convict Trump and Trump will have all election year to tout that fact! WTF?

Who is going to tout it? Susan Collins?

 

[esquared]

My guess is to put Senate in play by getting low turnout voters off the fence. Put all the crimes on display in front of the Senate and make the repubs own the acquittal if they're brave enough. Never waste a good crisis. The ensuing disgust might be enough to flip some seats by engaging low-propensity voters who are turned off by blatant corruption/crime.

Not saying I think it will work, but I see the strategy.

I agree. There still an election and candidates (Dems) to pick, so Pelosi probably doesn't want the impeachment process dragging out to interfere with that.

 

[Jaskalas]

Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion.

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?

Take it up with the DOJ / FBI. You know, the legal channels for law enforcement.

Trump's circumvention of those agencies in addressing his POLITICAL OPPONENT and his family, is corruption pure and simple.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Don't you find it odd that a man who happens to be the son of the VP is paid $50,000 for month for almost 48 months ($2,400,000) as legal counsel even though he was not a lawyer and had no background or connections to the oil and gas industry? Hunter quit in 2019, just in time for dad's campaign. If there was nothing shady going on, why did he quit?

There is something rotten in Ukraine, and it was Hunter Biden. Even worse is when his dad pressured the Ukrainians to stop their investigation into Hunter's possible role in money laundering and tax evasion.

But yet, neither Hunter nor Joe have been investigated by the Democrats.

Why is that?

Just so I understand Hunter Biden shouldn’t be doing business when his father is VP of the US
While it’s perfectly fine for PRESIDENT Trump, to do business WHILE HE IS FUCKING PRESIDENT, okay to have Government People stay at his properties and not for free, it’s okay that the Presidents Daughter has gotten patents from China nobody else has been able to so easily do, it’s perfectly fine that the Presidents Son runs HIS FUCKING BLIND TRUST, it’s perfectly fine the President Son in Law runs an international business.
Am I correct about the above?

 

[esquared]

Just so I understand Hunter Biden shouldn’t be doing business when his father is VP of the US
While it’s perfectly fine for PRESIDENT Trump, to do business WHILE HE IS FUCKING PRESIDENT, okay to have Government People stay at his properties and not for free, it’s okay that the Presidents Daughter has gotten patents from China nobody else has been able to so easily do, it’s perfectly fine that the Presidents Son runs HIS FUCKING BLIND TRUST, it’s perfectly fine the President Son in Law runs an international business.
Am I correct about the above?

Yeah, don't listen to Pavel.
He's a self-admitted P&N troll.
He's only here for the vodka rations.