House Repubs fail to pass DHS spending bill. DHS runs out of $

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rudeguy

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The surprise isn't that dems voted along party lines, it's that republicans failed to do the same.

It was the right vote.

There was no reason to pass a 3 week bill. Either fund it for the whole year or don't fund it at all.
 

Jhhnn

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So no one's suppose to notice virtually all the Dems voted it down?

Fern

Of course they did. A 3 week extension is bogus. Anybody with enough sense to pour piss out of a boot knows it. Senatorial Dems will not pass the bill with the absurd immigration provisions & Obama won't sign it, making the whole exercise one of pandering & chest puffing.

Go ahead, assholes- shoot the hostage now- don't go on about it for another 3 weeks.
 

rudeguy

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Of course they did. A 3 week extension is bogus. Anybody with enough sense to pour piss out of a boot knows it. Senatorial Dems will not pass the bill with the absurd immigration provisions & Obama won't sign it, making the whole exercise one of pandering & chest puffing.

Go ahead, assholes- shoot the hostage now- don't go on about it for another 3 weeks.

Yep. Put the bill up for a vote. This stalling shit has to stop. The Republicans ranted on about the Democrats passing short term spending bills. If the real bill passes or if it fails, our government worked.
 

Jhhnn

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HOR Repubs are like bitter & deranged ex-wives. They'll do anything to fuck that asshole over. Anything.
 

K1052

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The GOP House caucus is an unbelievable hot mess, basically ungovernable by anyone.
 

werepossum

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Oh noes! Who is going to spy on the American people? We're such children. And with no money, how can INS do the exact opposite of the law? Are illegal immigrants really supposed to walk all the way to town now?

Damn that world's smallest violin is annoying.

So no one's suppose to notice virtually all the Dems voted it down?

Fern
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, dude. Just drink your Hateraid.
 

DrDoug

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They're not trying to gather votes- they already have the votes in gerrymandered districts. What they're trying to get is a grip on that big ol' right wing funding titty for them & their cronies. Payoffs arrive in many forms from a myriad of directions.

I believe it's both; they are out to make a name for themselves to rake in the cash and the votes. They can't ignore the fact that if they are perceived by the voters to be ineffective then their congressional career comes to an end when a crazier candidate comes along and beats them in the primary. Working on raking in the cash, perks and patron benefits is already a given.

A win against a crazier candidate in the next election is not.
 

Jhhnn

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The GOP House caucus is an unbelievable hot mess, basically ungovernable by anyone.

And efforts to defend it are desperate & laughable-

Oh noes! Who is going to spy on the American people? We're such children. And with no money, how can INS do the exact opposite of the law? Are illegal immigrants really supposed to walk all the way to town now?

Damn that world's smallest violin is annoying.


Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, dude. Just drink your Hateraid.

Funny that. Frothed up nativists are hatin' from every pore in their bodies & HOR Repubs are pandering to their every whim.
 

werepossum

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And efforts to defend it are desperate & laughable-

Funny that. Frothed up nativists are hatin' from every pore in their bodies & HOR Repubs are pandering to their every whim.
lol at "nativists". In Moronia it's okay to break the law as long as you come up with a term for those who opposing the law which sounds similar to "racist".

Congrats at not having to call us immigration deniers. Sure, you may sound just as stupid, but you'll save valuable whining time.
 

cyclohexane

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The dept of homeland security and the TSA are useless anyway. Private companies could do a much better job, and did do a better job prior to the TSA.
 

nickqt

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lol at "nativists". In Moronia it's okay to break the law as long as you come up with a term for those who opposing the law which sounds similar to "racist".

Congrats at not having to call us immigration deniers. Sure, you may sound just as stupid, but you'll save valuable whining time.
Your word salad is confusing. Perhaps a nice vinaigrette on top would make it more palatable. Sounds like something Frau Palin would say.

Also: children brought to the US and raised here weren't breaking any laws. Those are the big bad illughal alleyuns that KingObummer™ doesn't want to round up and deport post haste.
 

Jhhnn

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lol at "nativists". In Moronia it's okay to break the law as long as you come up with a term for those who opposing the law which sounds similar to "racist".

Congrats at not having to call us immigration deniers. Sure, you may sound just as stupid, but you'll save valuable whining time.

I believe you're the one whining atm.

Nativism is the correct term, btw-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics)

It's nothing new. The sentiment has been politically exploited in this country for a couple of hundred years.
 

DCal430

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The dept of homeland security and the TSA are useless anyway. Private companies could do a much better job, and did do a better job prior to the TSA.

WOW you right wingers really are sick. You want private companies to patrol our borders, you want private companies to decide who can and can't enter the U.S. You want put control our entire security, immigration, and trade laws into the hands of private companies.

This people is what right wingers want, for private companies to control the government and our lives.
 

Ns1

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WOW you right wingers really are sick. You want private companies to patrol our borders, you want private companies to decide who can and can't enter the U.S. You want put control our entire security, immigration, and trade laws into the hands of private companies.

This people is what right wingers want, for private companies to control the government and our lives.

Given the option of government or private companies...I don't see how they could do any worse than the TSA.
 

Zorkorist

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Funny to watch the left, who purport to be for liberty, cry for funding for their favorite, Government agencies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland_Security_Act

Aka, the Patriot Act, and one of the biggest expansions of Government intrusions into privacy, freedom, etc.

Here we are, 10 years later, and the Liberals are loving it.

-John
 

werepossum

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Your word salad is confusing. Perhaps a nice vinaigrette on top would make it more palatable. Sounds like something Frau Palin would say.

Also: children brought to the US and raised here weren't breaking any laws. Those are the big bad illughal alleyuns that KingObummer™ doesn't want to round up and deport post haste.
Sorry, I don't speak moron. Perhaps someone can translate it for you.

I believe you're the one whining atm.

Nativism is the correct term, btw-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics)

It's nothing new. The sentiment has been politically exploited in this country for a couple of hundred years.
It's the correct term if you want to seem a moron. And no, I'm not the one whining as I'm fine with DHS going unfunded. (Something I apparently share with EVERY Democrat in Congress.)
 

nickqt

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WOW you right wingers really are sick. You want private companies to patrol our borders, you want private companies to decide who can and can't enter the U.S. You want put control our entire security, immigration, and trade laws into the hands of private companies.

This people is what right wingers want, for private companies to control the government and our lives.
The government is the people. You are the government. I am the government. Anyone who votes is the government.

We should definitely let private companies make and enforce laws. What could go wrong? I mean, Monarchs exist solely because God wants them to exist, right?
 

DCal430

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Given the option of government or private companies...I don't see how they could do any worse than the TSA.

TSA isn't the only part of the Homeland Security. People who patrol our boarders, people who enforce trade laws, people in charge entry to the U.S, are all part of homeland Homeland Security. TSA is only a very small part of HS.
 

werepossum

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The government is the people. You are the government. I am the government. Anyone who votes is the government.

We should definitely let private companies make and enforce laws. What could go wrong? I mean, Monarchs exist solely because God wants them to exist, right?
Just out of morbid curiosity, if the government is the people what do you imagine private companies to be, packs of rabid ocelots? Sentient fungi? Dodecahedrons of dust bunnies?
 

Aegeon

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TSA isn't the only part of the Homeland Security. People who patrol our boarders, people who enforce trade laws, people in charge entry to the U.S, are all part of homeland Homeland Security. TSA is only a very small part of HS.
Another notable example of what is part of Homeland Security is the U.S Coast Guard. Personally I think saving people from sinking ships and the like is a worthwhile government function, but perhaps some conservatives figure private industry will handle this and it all will all just be a wonderful utopia... There is also are other issues such as preventing foreign fishing vessel from poaching in U.S. territorial waters, but maybe some conservatives out there have an explanation of how they believe removing government regulations would somehow cause this to no longer be a problem...
 

Zorkorist

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Another notable example of what is part of Homeland Security is the U.S Coast Guard. Personally I think saving people from sinking ships and the like is a worthwhile government function, but perhaps some conservatives figure private industry will handle this and it all will all just be a wonderful utopia... There is also are other issues such as preventing foreign fishing vessel from poaching in U.S. territorial waters, but maybe some conservatives out there have an explanation of how they believe removing government regulations would somehow cause this to no longer be a problem...
You say your daddy works for the Coast Guard?

-John
 

Ns1

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cing the clock to keep the Department of Homeland Security from shutting down at midnight, the Senate quickly approved a bipartisan one-week stopgap bill late Friday, trying to prod the House to act after an earlier attempt to fund the agency was defeated in a major setback for Speaker John A. Boehner.

The swift Senate action from Majority Leader Mitch McConnell came after most senators had long left the Capitol, but lawmakers in the House hunkered down for a long night with just hours to go before the deadline for money to run out. House leaders had not yet scheduled votes but were trying to gauge support. The House was expected to vote later Friday night.

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http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...-homeland-security-20150227-story.html#page=1
 

werepossum

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Another notable example of what is part of Homeland Security is the U.S Coast Guard. Personally I think saving people from sinking ships and the like is a worthwhile government function, but perhaps some conservatives figure private industry will handle this and it all will all just be a wonderful utopia... There is also are other issues such as preventing foreign fishing vessel from poaching in U.S. territorial waters, but maybe some conservatives out there have an explanation of how they believe removing government regulations would somehow cause this to no longer be a problem...
This isn't about removing government regulations. It's about government doing the exact opposite of the law and the Republicans trying to stop it. Or more accurately, trying to be seen as trying to stop it; the Republican establishment finds the law as inconvenient as does Obama.