Damnit everyone..the Holocaust was fvcking horrible..but people are being killed en masse in Africa all the time. Hands chopped off., raped then killed. Kid's parents being shot in their front yard...etc.
I love how people on this forum start flamewars and then don't participate in the discussion at all.
YOUR A FVCKING WORTHLESS TROLL.
I posted my family's experiences as an example of my first-hand knowledge of the situation. You have done nothing more than spout your hatred for Jews over and over again without providing any other information except that your people (who you haven't told us who that is yet) were murdered and they don't get enough attention.
Originally posted by: Ausm
U.S.S.R lost the most because they included the 10 million people Stalin killed himself
Ausm
Actually, now it has been pretty much agreed on that USSR lost about 50 (fifty) million people during WWII, but the government decided to go with the number of 20 (twenty) million, so that it would not seem like the USSR was a much inferior country, compared to Germany (and so they had to pay such dear price for the Victory).
Trust me, I know this topic very well, I'm just not thrilled to converse with people who are quick to act like jerks and rain insults and way too slow on apologies.
"Actually, what is interesting is how you continue to put your foot further and further in your mouth."
It's interesting, how most people can't really say anything in this conversation, because they are ignorant and or just plain not very smart, yet many are eager to insult or attack me. Most quickly shut up, after learning about my "connection" to the WWII, but none apologized. Talk about foot in mouth. But I'm a nice guy, I let A LOT of stuff slide.
You should stop lying so much. Try it for a change. And cool it with the insults. First you claim that I post too much ("seek attention"), then you claim that I do not post enough ("start flamewars and then don't participate in the discussion at all"). Decide on some one single lie, and go with OK? All this fence sitting is not very man like.
Secondly, for people like you, I specifically spelled out, that I do not have a problem with any people (and specifically mentioned that I do not have a problem with Jews) on this planet.
Are you Jewish? Is that why you think you have to lie about non-Jewish people (me) and insult them constantly?
It's a rhetorical question, you don't have to answer, I don't need another batch of your hysteria, idiocy and lies.
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Ausm
U.S.S.R lost the most because they included the 10 million people Stalin killed himself
Ausm
Actually, now it has been pretty much agreed on that USSR lost about 50 (fifty) million people during WWII, but the government decided to go with the number of 20 (twenty) million, so that it would not seem like the USSR was a much inferior country, compared to Germany (and so they had to pay such dear price for the Victory).
Trust me, I know this topic very well, I'm just not thrilled to converse with people who are quick to act like jerks and rain insults and way too slow on apologies.
"Actually, what is interesting is how you continue to put your foot further and further in your mouth."
It's interesting, how most people can't really say anything in this conversation, because they are ignorant and or just plain not very smart, yet many are eager to insult or attack me. Most quickly shut up, after learning about my "connection" to the WWII, but none apologized. Talk about foot in mouth. But I'm a nice guy, I let A LOT of stuff slide.
You really are this stupid and ignorant aren't you? Why are you whining about jewish activism about the single greatest tragedy in JEWISH history?... Only a bufoon would expect the jews to not care deeply about this tragedy.
And to compound your utter stupidity... why don't you take a moment to look at some of the movements to memorialize other human tragedies in human history... look at the people leading the charge in these causes. I bet you an iPOD you''ll find a disproportionate number of jews inolved in these causes.
You're an idiot... I wouldn't stop to piss on you, if you were on fire.
-Max
Are you serious? Practically every post in this thread is about how you hate Jewish Activists.
As for me lying...what am I lying about? You're the one who won't give up any information on how you're so well informed and connected to the goings on in WWII. I'm sorry, are you a top secret government agent? Or an SS officer with first hand information? Did you serve for the Allies and saw it first hand? Have you just read a lot of books and watched The History Channel too much? Which is it oh great wise ATer?
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Hmm,
So far, I hate to say it, but I kind of agree with some of his opinions...
For example:
Here, read it and learn
Edit: Although, I have to agree with thepresentse's arguments, that the Jews had it worst durring the WWII.
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No, he is not a nazi activist. He is trolling a bit on a sensitive subject and in a bad moment. But he kind of makes the point. Americans think in stereotypes unfortunately. For most of them, holocaust equals to killing of the Jews. In fact, most of the Eastern European nations were as badly treated as the Jewish people, although they had it the worst....
Look adlep and crapwagon:
Nobody said WWII and/or the Holocaust was only about the Jews, nor did they say that only Jews died. Millions of EVERY RACE DIED. Thats why its called WORLD WAR. The SINGLE most important difference is that Jews were SPECIFICALLY being targeted to be EXTERMINATED. As a third person, I'm sorry, but Jews have a right to wallow or whatever about it.
Historians have said that Hitler himself, given the decision to either: A. Use freight trains to transport food, supplies, weapons and troops to reinforce the Eastern and/or Western fronts, or B. Use freight trains to transport more Jews to their death, Hitler would rather do option B. The war itself was just a cover up to exterminate the people he did not like, which by the way, did include blacks, gays, gypsies, etc. But it MAINLY targeted the Jews.
Nobody said WWII and/or the Holocaust was only about the Jews, nor did they say that only Jews died. Millions of EVERY RACE DIED. Thats why its called WORLD WAR. The SINGLE most important difference is that Jews were SPECIFICALLY being targeted to be EXTERMINATED. As a third person, I'm sorry, but Jews have a right to wallow or whatever about it.
Historians have said that Hitler himself, given the decision to either: A. Use freight trains to transport food, supplies, weapons and troops to reinforce the Eastern and/or Western fronts, or B. Use freight trains to transport more Jews to their death, Hitler would rather do option B. The war itself was just a cover up to exterminate the people he did not like, which by the way, did include blacks, gays, gypsies, etc. But it MAINLY targeted the Jews.
yes, you are a LIAR. A LIAR who lies so much, he now LIES about his LYING.
For example, first you LIED about me hating Jews, although I specifically stated otherwise, ("You have done nothing more than spout your hatred for Jews over and over again"). Now you LIE about you LYING about me supposedly "hating Jews" ("every post in this thread is about how you hate Jewish Activists"; all of a sudden Jews are gone from your statement, only Activists are left; still lying about me "hating" them though (although I clearly stated otherwise, for liars like you) ).
Secondly, I wrote this: "Well, you see, the point here is that Hitler's armies killed every fourth person of my people. Every fourth. Also, my blood relatives were killed. Also, some of them went through concentration camps. Not all survived. These are my blood relatives. The people I actually know. " in this thread, and not as a conversation starter, like you, but as an explanation. I guess you are busy with all the insults and lies and just did not notice it.
I asked before, I ask you again - I don't even need apologies from a person like you, but would you, please, stop with the lies, idiocy and hysteria?
Ok lets cut the sh!t here people... The holocaust(not wwii) killed 11 million people... 6 million jews... and 5 million others... considering today the highest estimates of total jewish world population is around 16 million... (THE HIGHEST ESTIMATES)....
Sorry but the Jews were the Holocausts greatest victims... sorry but ummm when you're culture/religion loses more than 30% of it's population in the course of 7 years... it's KINDA A BIG DEAL!!!
Let me be frank about this... and let me express this clearly so there's no possible misunderstanding...
To those people who are tired of hearing about the holocaust... eat sh!t and die...
are we clear? good.
You know... I'm not done yet...
This thread was about a fvcking diary of a jewish girl who died... it wasn't about the poles who died... or the gypsies who died... or the Chinese who died... it was about ONE SINGLE DIARY... frankly none of this other crap discussion has any place in this thread...
Can we say T H R E A D C R A P P I N G
Go away... go find a nazi forum to troll in.... ya dumbfvck
This thread was about a fvcking diary of a jewish girl who died... it wasn't about the poles who died... or the gypsies who died... or the Chinese who died... it was about ONE SINGLE DIARY... frankly none of this other crap discussion has any place in this thread...
Can we say T H R E A D C R A P P I N G
Go away... go find a nazi forum to troll in.... ya dumbfvck
My point exactly: Jewish Activists and people who side with them act like the only people that matter, the only people that should be remembered and supported are Jews. Apparently, other peoples do not matter. If somebody dares for a second to think that other peoples (who, btw, saved many Jews during WWII) matter, then he/she gets a rainfall of insults and personal attacks, hysteria and lies.
How you can think that you don't have something against Jewish people escapes me when you write stuff like that.
Now you're trying to make yourself out to be a victim for thinking about people other than the Jews and instead you're just a troll.
You came into this thread bashing Jews in a thread about a Jewish girl's diary that was found. This thread has NOTHING to do with anything else but that. YOU were the one who decided to come in here and start spouting off about how people have forgotten that others died in the war when in reality the original article HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
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I am not sure what argument you are talking about. I said earlier that the wagon makes a valid point (although it is not appriopriate in this thread) and that ThePresence is right as well by stating that the Jews had the bulk of the suffering...
?
They are both right. The wagon is not very polite, but that is not making him a Nazi like some of you are making him...
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You are right in general, but....
(I think this will be an uphill battle)
Listen, no one is disputing that the jews had it the worst durring the German occupation, but your statement:
is not exactly true, because there were some other nations as well who were SPECIFICALLY targeted to be EXTERMINATED and I quote my source...
The holocaust was about Jews and many other nations who were suffering from the hands of the Germans.
Unfortuately people, especially in the United States tend to oversimplify everything, so they say:
The holocaust was about Jews being killed
without mentioning these other nations....
This is what the wagon meant to say. He is kind of right, but his statement was not appriopriate in this thread...
P.S. Sorry for thread crapping.
I am not Jewish, I am Polish. This is a very sensitive topic for me. Brother of my grandfater died in Auschwitz so it is very personal. Since my country has such a tragic history See here for one of the examples I am very much into the history of the WWII. I was in Auschwitz about 9 years ago. That, combined with some books I have read gives me nightmares at least once every two months, so the experience of the concentration camp must have been absolutely terrifying for the girl.
RIP.....
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