Here is how controlling the post office can steal the election

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ElFenix

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katie porter on now

 
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Gotta fucking love these Demo-rats.

They call in an emergency to pass a USPS bailout on Saturday. Republicans retort by saying "We will pass that - along with additional stimulus checks for the middle class, extended unemployment benefits..


Demo-rats: "LOL Nope, we're here to help our election, not serve the people that elected us"

What giant scumbag cockroaches.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Gotta fucking love these Demo-rats.

They call in an emergency to pass a USPS bailout on Saturday. Republicans retort by saying "We will pass that - along with additional stimulus checks for the middle class, extended unemployment benefits..


Demo-rats: "LOL Nope, we're here to help our election, not serve the people that elected us"

What giant scumbag cockroaches.
So today we care about bill riders over securing the election? Or was it because it was from a democrat?
 

HomerJS

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Gotta fucking love these Demo-rats.

They call in an emergency to pass a USPS bailout on Saturday. Republicans retort by saying "We will pass that - along with additional stimulus checks for the middle class, extended unemployment benefits..


Demo-rats: "LOL Nope, we're here to help our election, not serve the people that elected us"

What giant scumbag cockroaches.
Republicans didn't offer shit. Senate was not in session and some Republicans in the House signed on to the emergency bill. Bitch McConnell hasn't shown up to a single negotiation meeting.
 
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Republicans didn't offer shit. Senate was not in session and some Republicans in the House signed on to the emergency bill. Bitch McConnell hasn't shown up to a single negotiation meeting.

Believe it or not - you can actually have conversations that... *gasp* aren't even in-person! CRAZY SHIT I know, rite?

Phone calls....
VOIP calls....
Text messages....
Emails....
Webcam....

The possibilities are endless!



Regardless, it's hilarious how she won't pass individuals bills for relief on the parts that are agreed upon - but then comes out and expects a single bill for USPS bailouts? lol, hilarious.
 

K1052

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Gotta fucking love these Demo-rats.

They call in an emergency to pass a USPS bailout on Saturday. Republicans retort by saying "We will pass that - along with additional stimulus checks for the middle class, extended unemployment benefits..


Demo-rats: "LOL Nope, we're here to help our election, not serve the people that elected us"

What giant scumbag cockroaches.

The Democrats passed a bill back in May. McConnell and the WH didn't bother to start talking until the money was about to run out in July and won't move off a position that is less than 1/3rd of the House bill because they think the stock market is healthy.

No rewriting history on this.
 

Jhhnn

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Gotta fucking love these Demo-rats.

They call in an emergency to pass a USPS bailout on Saturday. Republicans retort by saying "We will pass that - along with additional stimulus checks for the middle class, extended unemployment benefits..


Demo-rats: "LOL Nope, we're here to help our election, not serve the people that elected us"

What giant scumbag cockroaches.

Lying to yourself, again, huh? GOP says what? Give us a link.
 
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HomerJS

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Believe it or not - you can actually have conversations that... *gasp* aren't even in-person! CRAZY SHIT I know, rite?

Phone calls....
VOIP calls....
Text messages....
Emails....
Webcam....

The possibilities are endless!



Regardless, it's hilarious how she won't pass individuals bills for relief on the parts that are agreed upon - but then comes out and expects a single bill for USPS bailouts? lol, hilarious.
And Bitch has not used ANY of them. Dems had this round in a bill all set to go 3 months ago but Republicans sat on their fat asses until the last minute and then tried to piece meal it.
 
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And Bitch has not used ANY of them. Dems had this round in a bill all set to go 3 months ago but Republicans sat on their fat asses until the last minute and then tried to piece meal it.

The Democrats passed a bill back in May. McConnell and the WH didn't bother to start talking until the money was about to run out in July and won't move off a position that is less than 1/3rd of the House bill because they think the stock market is healthy.

No rewriting history on this.

Are you new to how congress works?

It's not a "congress passes a full load $3T bill - take it or leave it all nener nener nener" game. It doesn't work like that. It has never worked like that.
 

K1052

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Are you new to how congress works?

It's not a "congress passes a full load $3T bill - take it or leave it all nener nener nener" game. It doesn't work like that. It has never worked like that.

Partisan negotiations for a must move bill happen by both sides stating what they want then working to the middle(ish). The house passed their priorities in May. The WH didn't bother to show up and begin talking until mid-July and then their position appears to have been entirely inflexible.
 
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zinfamous

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Gotta fucking love these Demo-rats.

They call in an emergency to pass a USPS bailout on Saturday. Republicans retort by saying "We will pass that - along with additional stimulus checks for the middle class, extended unemployment benefits..


Demo-rats: "LOL Nope, we're here to help our election, not serve the people that elected us"

What giant scumbag cockroaches.

what a bizarre story that you have invented for yourself.
 

zinfamous

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Are you new to how congress works?

It's not a "congress passes a full load $3T bill - take it or leave it all nener nener nener" game. It doesn't work like that. It has never worked like that.

right. so why did it take the Replicants nearly 3 months to actually respond to the first offer? Why did the Dems already talk down half of their $3T to $1.5T when the Replicants offered nothing in response...3 months later, but still rejected that, without, again, any sort of offer. That is an unassailable fact of very current history that is not under debate.

Oh, you're just inventing shit again. I don't think you have read any of K1052's posts...or that other thing is going on that was mentioned the other day where "you are seeing different words than the rest of us whenever you read something."

What is it in your brain where you define negotiation as "taking my ball home, and refusing to discuss or compromise in any way whatsoever"? It's very strange how the unambiguous facts on the ground, what is actually happening, are interpreted in your brain as the exact opposite of what is happening. It's weird. Is it those "very diverse sources" that you constantly claim to rely on, doing the misinforming thing for you again?
 
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Are you new to how congress works?

It's not a "congress passes a full load $3T bill - take it or leave it all nener nener nener" game. It doesn't work like that. It has never worked like that.

You made this statement last time and multiple people pointed out that you were wrong, with evidence, but here you are again spouting the same thing. Last time I could give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you just hadn't received all the information, this time you are clearly lying to try and support your argument though.

The Democrats proposed a $3.4T bill in May. They negotiated down to $2.4T and said they were willing to go even lower and meet at the halfway point.In contrast, the Republicans started planning a new bill in late July, just a few days before the original one expired. They weren't able to come up with a bill at all. Although McConnell proposed a $1T bill that had very little support.

So even though the Democrat sponsored bill had already cleared the house months in advance and was, by far, the most widely supported and comprehensive option, they still offered to compromise to a greater extent than Republicans.

The Democrats had a plan and were wanting to negotiate for months. The Republicans scrambled to throw something together at the last minute, couldn't come up with anything and so settled for no action as they didn't want to support any type of Democrat bill. Yet somehow it's the Democrat's fault. It comes back to this Conservative idea that unless Democrats give in almost entirely on every single issue, no matter how popular or effective their proposal, then they are being obstructionists.

A genuine question for you. At what point would you consider the Republicans to be at fault here? They weren't willing to meet halfway on the most widely supported stimulus package that was offered, but you think that's OK. So what would they have needed to do for you to have blamed them? Twenty something of them wanted to do absolutely no stimulus package whatsoever. If that had ended up being their party proposal would that have been the point you turned and said they were being unreasonable?
 
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HomerJS

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Are you new to how congress works?

It's not a "congress passes a full load $3T bill - take it or leave it all nener nener nener" game. It doesn't work like that. It has never worked like that.
Republicans NEVER came to the table to negotiate the terms of the bill Democrats passed. Apparently you don't know how bills/laws are created/passed.

Might I suggest something at your intellect level
 

JEDI

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Letter carriers in six states shared roughly the same story: Trucks delivering their mail had started showing up only 30-50% full. “They’re leaving mail in the warehouses and some of it’s just disappearing completely,” one said. :eek:

When the mail shows up in the morning, it’s supposed to already be sequenced according to a carrier’s route. That’s not always the case anymore.


this article will open your eyes on how screwed up mail delivery is under DeJoy 's leadership.
he has manufactured a crisis!
 
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JEDI

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reason why DeJoy is shutting down sorting machines:

USPS officials and industry insiders say the removals were part of a long-range plan, one that reflects Americans' diminishing use for letters and growing reliance on package delivery.


removing the machines also creates valuable floor space for package processing.
so it's like killing 2 birds with one stone.

But this year’s reductions in sorting capacity are larger than they were in prior years.
In 2018, for instance, the agency decommissioned roughly 3% of its Delivery Bar Code Sorters, or 125 machines. In 2019, it was 5%, or 186 machines.

The 671 on this year's list amounted to about 13%. :eek:

based on the article in my previous post (#191), it seems like it's too many machines to shut down in the time of Covid-19.
this plus the elimination of overtime is leading to mail delivery delays and some mail completely 'lost.'

it instills fears that my ballot might not be delivered in time or even 'lost' in Nov.
 
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UNCjigga

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Tom Cotton has been scoring own goals lately. I'm starting to think his competence may be overestimated.

That’s just his frustration on having his master plan undermined by the buffoon currently keeping his seat warm in the White House.
 

Jhhnn

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Just more bullshit. This is a no joke, we are going to fuck up the post office attempt at stealing the election.


Whoa there. That's not about the USPS but about States' ability to have ballots printed. It's also conjecture on the part of the person making the claim.
 
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ElFenix

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all i know is that i bought something on ebay three weeks ago, it was put in the mail thursday two and a half weeks ago, was supposed to be delivered monday two weeks ago, and tracking hasn't been updated from the "your shit is delayed and in transit to the next facility" entry from two weeks ago. i went to the post office last week and they said it's still in california. the post office hasn't been this late on other shit during coronatime so i'm blaming the new chucklefuck in charge.
still hasn't gotten back to sender. per last update *checks notes* a week ago, it was still here in houston. no idea where this thing is. just want my damn lens!
 

kage69

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Gotta fucking love these Demo-rats.

They call in an emergency to pass a USPS bailout on Saturday. Republicans retort by saying "We will pass that - along with additional stimulus checks for the middle class, extended unemployment benefits..


Demo-rats: "LOL Nope, we're here to help our election, not serve the people that elected us"

What giant scumbag cockroaches.


Hey look, suddenly trumptards care about negotiating in good faith. Also acting like they understand what negotiation is. Haha.

Pretty pathetic, even for your kind. Nevermind the Russian asset, it's those demo-rats right?

Please extract your head, I'm sure you're embarrassing your children. Hell I'm embarrassed for them. Get over your hatred of dems and start caring about your country.
 
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Jhhnn

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Gotta fucking love these Demo-rats.

They call in an emergency to pass a USPS bailout on Saturday. Republicans retort by saying "We will pass that - along with additional stimulus checks for the middle class, extended unemployment benefits..


Demo-rats: "LOL Nope, we're here to help our election, not serve the people that elected us"

What giant scumbag cockroaches.

The HOR passed that bill. McConnell says it's not necessary. Trump quit negotiating with Dems a month ago, because reasons-

 
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