Gun Owners:

[classy]

Guns are for losers, period.

A ten-year-old Gallia County boy is dead after his eleven-year-old brother accidentally shot him. Sheriff David Martin says James Montgomery was cleaning a shotgun at his Guyan Township home yesterday afternoon when it fired, striking his brother, William, in the head. Martin says the death was an accident and that no charges will be filed.

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June 7, 2004 - Authorities in Kershaw County say a 14-year-old boy died after a loaded gun his 12-year-old brother picked up fired.
Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill says the tragedy happened in a home on Kershaw Highway, "The family is in shock, just like the rest of the community. It's just a terrible tragedy."
The sheriff says the boys were home alone when the younger sibling got the gun from their parents' closet, "When he was handling it, it went off, striking the older brother in the back of the head."
The 12-year-old called 911, but the 14-year-old died.

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Police say it appears that a 9-year-old boy in far North Texas was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 12-year-old cousin.
Sherman Police Sargeant Charles Smith said late this afternoon that the 9-year-old was in ICU following surgery.
He says there are no charges pending at this time.
KTEN television station in Denison reports that a Sherman mother called police just before noon to say that her 9-year-old nephew had been shot.
One of the investigating officers says the two boys were handling the .22 caliber gun inside the home when it went off.


Unless your a law enforcement agent or hunt which you should only be allowed to own a shot gun there is no reason to own a gun. None. The numbers are just staggering. Guns for protection is a joke. The gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely. The statistics are so overwhelming only an idiot can still try and make an arguement for gun possesion. You can't compensate for Adulthood or Manhood with a gun.

 

[RS3RS]

So I can blow someone's head off if the need arises. That's it.

 

[RS3RS]

Originally posted by: classy
Guns are for losers, period.

A ten-year-old Gallia County boy is dead after his eleven-year-old brother accidentally shot him. Sheriff David Martin says James Montgomery was cleaning a shotgun at his Guyan Township home yesterday afternoon when it fired, striking his brother, William, in the head. Martin says the death was an accident and that no charges will be filed.

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June 7, 2004 - Authorities in Kershaw County say a 14-year-old boy died after a loaded gun his 12-year-old brother picked up fired.
Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill says the tragedy happened in a home on Kershaw Highway, "The family is in shock, just like the rest of the community. It's just a terrible tragedy."
The sheriff says the boys were home alone when the younger sibling got the gun from their parents' closet, "When he was handling it, it went off, striking the older brother in the back of the head."
The 12-year-old called 911, but the 14-year-old died.

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Police say it appears that a 9-year-old boy in far North Texas was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 12-year-old cousin.
Sherman Police Sargeant Charles Smith said late this afternoon that the 9-year-old was in ICU following surgery.
He says there are no charges pending at this time.
KTEN television station in Denison reports that a Sherman mother called police just before noon to say that her 9-year-old nephew had been shot.
One of the investigating officers says the two boys were handling the .22 caliber gun inside the home when it went off.


Unless your a law enforcement agent or hunt which you should only be allowed to own a shot gun there is no reason to own a gun. None. The numbers are just staggering. Guns for protection is a joke. The gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely. The statistics are so overwhelming only an idiot can still try and make an arguement for gun possesion. You can't compensate for Adulthood or Manhood with a gun.

Alright, so guns can kill people. Guess what? Cars kill people. You want to know how many people are killed each year by cars? How about planes, they crash. Amusement park rides. You name it, someone probably dies from it.

Because 9 and 12 year old kids can play with a gun (which wouldn't happen if the gun owner followed basic safty rules), that doesn't make them bad. If a 10 year old got in my car and drove it around, the chances of him getting killed are probably about as good.

Bottom line is a gun is no different. It's not like the only use it has is to kill little kids, that's just something that happens by chance in freak accidents. If someone's in my house that's not supposed to be in here, I want to be able to make sure he doesn't stay here for long. If I have a gun, he won't be in here for long. If I don't have a gun, that makes it about 1,000 times harder to force him to leave.

Guns have a purpose. Just because they can be misused doesn't make it bad.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: classy
Guns are for losers, period.

A ten-year-old Gallia County boy is dead after his eleven-year-old brother accidentally shot him. Sheriff David Martin says James Montgomery was cleaning a shotgun at his Guyan Township home yesterday afternoon when it fired, striking his brother, William, in the head. Martin says the death was an accident and that no charges will be filed.

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June 7, 2004 - Authorities in Kershaw County say a 14-year-old boy died after a loaded gun his 12-year-old brother picked up fired.
Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill says the tragedy happened in a home on Kershaw Highway, "The family is in shock, just like the rest of the community. It's just a terrible tragedy."
The sheriff says the boys were home alone when the younger sibling got the gun from their parents' closet, "When he was handling it, it went off, striking the older brother in the back of the head."
The 12-year-old called 911, but the 14-year-old died.

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Police say it appears that a 9-year-old boy in far North Texas was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 12-year-old cousin.
Sherman Police Sargeant Charles Smith said late this afternoon that the 9-year-old was in ICU following surgery.
He says there are no charges pending at this time.
KTEN television station in Denison reports that a Sherman mother called police just before noon to say that her 9-year-old nephew had been shot.
One of the investigating officers says the two boys were handling the .22 caliber gun inside the home when it went off.


Unless your a law enforcement agent or hunt which you should only be allowed to own a shot gun there is no reason to own a gun. None. The numbers are just staggering. Guns for protection is a joke. The gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely. The statistics are so overwhelming only an idiot can still try and make an arguement for gun possesion. You can't compensate for Adulthood or Manhood with a gun.

Those stories sound like lack of gun education to me.

Story 1. The first rule in cleaning a gun is always ALWAYS make sure it is not loaded. One of the first things my Dad taught me about guns was to check, check, and re-check that it is not loaded before you clean it.

Story 2. Sounds like the kids were probably not taught about guns and how to handle them. A mistake I hear from parents all the time is that they never show their kids a gun or teach them that it is a deadly tool to be used only under proper circumstances. A lot of kids are killed by guns because they aren't taught about them and see them as a curiosity and BOOM they go to look at one and somebody dies.

Story 3. Same as story 2.

Although he thought gun control was a really good idea.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: classy
Guns are for losers, period.

If that were true, you could outfit the Chinese army with your personal arsenal.

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: classy
Guns are for losers, period.

A ten-year-old Gallia County boy is dead after his eleven-year-old brother accidentally shot him. Sheriff David Martin says James Montgomery was cleaning a shotgun at his Guyan Township home yesterday afternoon when it fired, striking his brother, William, in the head. Martin says the death was an accident and that no charges will be filed.

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June 7, 2004 - Authorities in Kershaw County say a 14-year-old boy died after a loaded gun his 12-year-old brother picked up fired.
Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill says the tragedy happened in a home on Kershaw Highway, "The family is in shock, just like the rest of the community. It's just a terrible tragedy."
The sheriff says the boys were home alone when the younger sibling got the gun from their parents' closet, "When he was handling it, it went off, striking the older brother in the back of the head."
The 12-year-old called 911, but the 14-year-old died.

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Police say it appears that a 9-year-old boy in far North Texas was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 12-year-old cousin.
Sherman Police Sargeant Charles Smith said late this afternoon that the 9-year-old was in ICU following surgery.
He says there are no charges pending at this time.
KTEN television station in Denison reports that a Sherman mother called police just before noon to say that her 9-year-old nephew had been shot.
One of the investigating officers says the two boys were handling the .22 caliber gun inside the home when it went off.


Unless your a law enforcement agent or hunt which you should only be allowed to own a shot gun there is no reason to own a gun. None. The numbers are just staggering. Guns for protection is a joke. The gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely. The statistics are so overwhelming only an idiot can still try and make an arguement for gun possesion. You can't compensate for Adulthood or Manhood with a gun.

You're a blindsided nub, sir.
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[Brule]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
This thread, although a trolling one presents a lot of good arguements SUPPORTING gun ownership. It is my right as an American. I should not need to have to justify it. I can't find the link, but I read a while back the dissenting opinion of a judge in the ninth circuit on whether the second amendment was a collective or individual right. A good point it made was that a well armed populace is necessary for the preservation of rights both on an individual and collective basis. The second amendment contains the one right that must prevail when all others do. It is our insurance against tyrrany.

But personally, I like marksmanship as a sport. I don't hunt, although I know many that do. As per my "right of revolution", things arent nearly bad enough for me to need it yet. My other rights are perfectly in tact at the moment. One day I will have a family. I will protect them with my life. But I will do everything in my power (using whatever I have....even guns) to make sure it will not come to that.

The most overlooked reason for gun ownership. Hunting, target practice, and self defense from criminals are all good secondary reasons. Ownership preserves freedom and peace.

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest. If we want the Arms Act to be repealed, if we want to learn the use of arms, here is a golden opportunity. If the middle classes render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial, distrust will disappear, and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn." Mohandas K. Gandhi, Autobiography

Of course we all know how warlike Ghandi was....

 

[Brule]

To the original question:

I hunt, shoot trap, target practice, collect, and keep dangerous animals, including people, from hurting me and my family.

 

[Kilgor]

Originally posted by: classy
Guns are for losers, period.

A ten-year-old Gallia County boy is dead after his eleven-year-old brother accidentally shot him. Sheriff David Martin says James Montgomery was cleaning a shotgun at his Guyan Township home yesterday afternoon when it fired, striking his brother, William, in the head. Martin says the death was an accident and that no charges will be filed.

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June 7, 2004 - Authorities in Kershaw County say a 14-year-old boy died after a loaded gun his 12-year-old brother picked up fired.
Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill says the tragedy happened in a home on Kershaw Highway, "The family is in shock, just like the rest of the community. It's just a terrible tragedy."
The sheriff says the boys were home alone when the younger sibling got the gun from their parents' closet, "When he was handling it, it went off, striking the older brother in the back of the head."
The 12-year-old called 911, but the 14-year-old died.

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Police say it appears that a 9-year-old boy in far North Texas was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 12-year-old cousin.
Sherman Police Sargeant Charles Smith said late this afternoon that the 9-year-old was in ICU following surgery.
He says there are no charges pending at this time.
KTEN television station in Denison reports that a Sherman mother called police just before noon to say that her 9-year-old nephew had been shot.
One of the investigating officers says the two boys were handling the .22 caliber gun inside the home when it went off.


Unless your a law enforcement agent or hunt which you should only be allowed to own a shot gun there is no reason to own a gun. None. The numbers are just staggering. Guns for protection is a joke. The gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely. The statistics are so overwhelming only an idiot can still try and make an arguement for gun possesion. You can't compensate for Adulthood or Manhood with a gun.

1,300 kids were killed in gun-related accidents or suicides in 1999. How many in Car accidents or poisoned by household chemicals. What about drunk drivers or dipshit parents? The numbers aren?t staggering they?re probably kind of low compared to other kinds of accidents like bike riding and swimming. In fact in the past month or two I haven?t heard of one in my area, but 2 teens have been beaten to death by packs of their peers and a guy found a lady stuffed in a suitcase while putting his trash in the can.
It?s nice that you think the police should carry guns they might need them when they catch the guy stuffed the lady in the suitcase. But that?s part of the problem the police solve a lot more crimes than they stop. I?m sure the lady in the suitcase will appreciate their efforts ohhh damn my bad I forgot she?s dead. Maybe if she had some way to protect her self she wouldn?t be. If you want to be a victim that?s fine put your trust in the police. I?d rather take responsibility for my own protection. It?s not a matter of Adulthood or Manhood it?s survival in today?s sick ass society.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: classy
Guns are for losers, period.

A ten-year-old Gallia County boy is dead after his eleven-year-old brother accidentally shot him. Sheriff David Martin says James Montgomery was cleaning a shotgun at his Guyan Township home yesterday afternoon when it fired, striking his brother, William, in the head. Martin says the death was an accident and that no charges will be filed.

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June 7, 2004 - Authorities in Kershaw County say a 14-year-old boy died after a loaded gun his 12-year-old brother picked up fired.
Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill says the tragedy happened in a home on Kershaw Highway, "The family is in shock, just like the rest of the community. It's just a terrible tragedy."
The sheriff says the boys were home alone when the younger sibling got the gun from their parents' closet, "When he was handling it, it went off, striking the older brother in the back of the head."
The 12-year-old called 911, but the 14-year-old died.

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Police say it appears that a 9-year-old boy in far North Texas was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 12-year-old cousin.
Sherman Police Sargeant Charles Smith said late this afternoon that the 9-year-old was in ICU following surgery.
He says there are no charges pending at this time.
KTEN television station in Denison reports that a Sherman mother called police just before noon to say that her 9-year-old nephew had been shot.
One of the investigating officers says the two boys were handling the .22 caliber gun inside the home when it went off.


Unless your a law enforcement agent or hunt which you should only be allowed to own a shot gun there is no reason to own a gun. None. The numbers are just staggering. Guns for protection is a joke. The gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely. The statistics are so overwhelming only an idiot can still try and make an arguement for gun possesion. You can't compensate for Adulthood or Manhood with a gun.

Take a look at Australia, England and Canada. VIOLENT crime is dramatically on the rise since their guns have been taken away.

It's estimated that 100,000 people a year use a gun in self defense or to difuse a dangerous situation.

I don't have any family members, etc. No one should be in my house but me. There's no reason I shouldn't have a gun. I grew up in a house full of guns, and no one ever got shot, and the same holds true for MOST houses with guns. If you teach kids to respect guns, then they won't play with them and shoot their syblings.

I would agree that incompetent people probably shouldn't have guns, but they also shouldn't be allowed to drive, which is far more dangerous, and causes far more deaths every year. Unfortunately, it's kinda hard to filter out those who are unfit.

 

[Su1c1da1]

people who thinks gun is bad and dangerous is just paranoid and uneducated in it. True it can get into accidents, but what doesn't? even a pencil your kid use to do homework can poke an eye out. Its all about how you are taught on what to do and what not to do. If you have a kid home and not have it locked up you're just an irresponsible parent/adult. Have you ever drink and drive? thats just the same.. now think of other scenarios you might have been irresponsible.. thats just the same thing.

btw right now i only shoot targets.. planning to go hunting with it later..

edit: o yeah.. do you see my login name? yeah so when i'm tired of life I can always plot myself a lead or 2...(j/k)

 

[Chu]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why do you gun owners own guns and shotguns and rifles? Im not bashing you guys, but Im curious what the deal is with this "hobby."..?

Note for some people it's not a hobby. If you got crows going after your feed (they're smart enough to stay out of shotgun range btw - you need rifles) or a fox going after your chickens (or worse - your pet), you really need a gun to deal with the sistuation.

-Chu

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: LemonHead
That's like asking people why they collect stamps. It's a hobby! Who cares what one collects.

:roll:

Exactly. I can see people collecting different types, or from different periods. There's a history to guns. Not my thing, but I can see why people would collect. No different than people who collect cars, or knives, or tools.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: classy
Guns are for losers, period.

A ten-year-old Gallia County boy is dead after his eleven-year-old brother accidentally shot him. Sheriff David Martin says James Montgomery was cleaning a shotgun at his Guyan Township home yesterday afternoon when it fired, striking his brother, William, in the head. Martin says the death was an accident and that no charges will be filed.

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June 7, 2004 - Authorities in Kershaw County say a 14-year-old boy died after a loaded gun his 12-year-old brother picked up fired.
Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill says the tragedy happened in a home on Kershaw Highway, "The family is in shock, just like the rest of the community. It's just a terrible tragedy."
The sheriff says the boys were home alone when the younger sibling got the gun from their parents' closet, "When he was handling it, it went off, striking the older brother in the back of the head."
The 12-year-old called 911, but the 14-year-old died.

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Police say it appears that a 9-year-old boy in far North Texas was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 12-year-old cousin.
Sherman Police Sargeant Charles Smith said late this afternoon that the 9-year-old was in ICU following surgery.
He says there are no charges pending at this time.
KTEN television station in Denison reports that a Sherman mother called police just before noon to say that her 9-year-old nephew had been shot.
One of the investigating officers says the two boys were handling the .22 caliber gun inside the home when it went off.


Unless your a law enforcement agent or hunt which you should only be allowed to own a shot gun there is no reason to own a gun. None. The numbers are just staggering. Guns for protection is a joke. The gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely. The statistics are so overwhelming only an idiot can still try and make an arguement for gun possesion. You can't compensate for Adulthood or Manhood with a gun.

Classy, the thing that you fail to understand is that, just like you, guns are a tool. Nothing more. Making an argument by using three anecdotes is something that would get you laughed out of a grade school classroom. But I guess it is easier to "argue" that we should "Think of the children!!!", rather than use facts... seeing as the facts do not support your position. After you remove suicides, a gun is much more likely to be used to defend your home successfully than used against a family member, whether by another family member or an intruder. And if someone really wants to kill themselves, they will suceed. Take a look at Japan, virtually no personal gun ownership and a much higher suicide rate.

Just a couple facts to start with, from government sources (I'm not using anything from either the NRA nor HCI):
-In 1996, there were 21 accidental firearm deaths of children under age 15. That same year, 40 children 5 years old and younger drowned in buckets (maybe you should think of the children and ban buckets!). These statistics were released by the CDC in 1999.
-Boys who own legal firearms have a lower rate of delinquency than non-owners of the same age. That little fact is brought to you by the study "Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse", released in August of 1995 by the US Dept of Justice.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: classy
Guns are for losers, period.

A ten-year-old Gallia County boy is dead after his eleven-year-old brother accidentally shot him. Sheriff David Martin says James Montgomery was cleaning a shotgun at his Guyan Township home yesterday afternoon when it fired, striking his brother, William, in the head. Martin says the death was an accident and that no charges will be filed.

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June 7, 2004 - Authorities in Kershaw County say a 14-year-old boy died after a loaded gun his 12-year-old brother picked up fired.
Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill says the tragedy happened in a home on Kershaw Highway, "The family is in shock, just like the rest of the community. It's just a terrible tragedy."
The sheriff says the boys were home alone when the younger sibling got the gun from their parents' closet, "When he was handling it, it went off, striking the older brother in the back of the head."
The 12-year-old called 911, but the 14-year-old died.

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Police say it appears that a 9-year-old boy in far North Texas was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 12-year-old cousin.
Sherman Police Sargeant Charles Smith said late this afternoon that the 9-year-old was in ICU following surgery.
He says there are no charges pending at this time.
KTEN television station in Denison reports that a Sherman mother called police just before noon to say that her 9-year-old nephew had been shot.
One of the investigating officers says the two boys were handling the .22 caliber gun inside the home when it went off.


Unless your a law enforcement agent or hunt which you should only be allowed to own a shot gun there is no reason to own a gun. None. The numbers are just staggering. Guns for protection is a joke. The gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely. The statistics are so overwhelming only an idiot can still try and make an arguement for gun possesion. You can't compensate for Adulthood or Manhood with a gun.

Classy, the thing that you fail to understand is that, just like you, guns are a tool.

Bwahahahaha!! Thanks for a new addition to my sig.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Classy, the thing that you fail to understand is that, just like you, guns are a tool.

Hah, as soon as I read this I thought 'SIG REPLACEMENT TIME!'... But I was too slow. That's hilarious.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Classy, the thing that you fail to understand is that, just like you, guns are a tool.

Hah, as soon as I read this I thought 'SIG REPLACEMENT TIME!'... But I was too slow. That's hilarious.

Oh, thats OK, you can still put it in :beer:

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: LemonHead
That's like asking people why they collect stamps. It's a hobby! Who cares what one collects.

:roll:

Exactly. I can see people collecting different types, or from different periods. There's a history to guns. Not my thing, but I can see why people would collect. No different than people who collect cars, or knives, or tools.

Stamps are not designed to kill; cars are not designed to kill, etc? In fact cars have safety features to them, and you have to get a license (trained) to drive a car, register a car, etc? yet the gun lobby will not let this happen to an item that is designed to kill.

Never owned a gun and never needed to either.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: LemonHead
That's like asking people why they collect stamps. It's a hobby! Who cares what one collects.

:roll:

Exactly. I can see people collecting different types, or from different periods. There's a history to guns. Not my thing, but I can see why people would collect. No different than people who collect cars, or knives, or tools.

Stamps are not designed to kill; cars are not designed to kill, etc? In fact cars have safety features to them, and you have to get a license (trained) to drive a car, register a car, etc? yet the gun lobby will not let this happen to an item that is designed to kill.

Never owned a gun and never needed to either.

So guns are more dangerous than cars because they are designed to kill, even though cars kill and injure FAR more people?

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: edro13

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Kalvin00

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Alot of people are saying that they own a gun for defense and security/protection....but I have to ask, is it really necessary to own a gun in order to protect yourself and your family? Most families are protecting themselves fine without guns....so what do you guys think about the families who believe they dont need a gun to protect themselves?

Then...how do they protect themselves? Rocks?

So you NEED a gun to protect yourself?

I think your opinion would change if you read a few of the stories in the NRA magazine. Every month, they have a section with ~5-10 stories about home/self defense.

Have you ever been robbed at gun point? Have you ever been raped? Have you ever been shot? I haven't... but I think I would feel extremely helpless.

Read a few of those stories and it will change your mind.

"It will never happen to me is just ignorant."


Here are some stories.

I am very aware that I could be robbed at gunpoint, or be a victim of another violent crime, but I will still not own a gun. I would do my best to defend myself without a gun.

Don't bother. If you're not going to fight to win, you're better off just running away and letting the bad guys rob/rape your wife/kill, etc. for the 20 minutes it'll take for the cops to get there.

 

[Vic]

All Classy did is prove that some kids have bad parents who would leave them alone with a gun. Like we didn't know that there were bad parents out there already...

The problem with the gun control crowd is that they think that making guns illegal will somehow make them magical disappear. Poof! Just like the drug laws were supposed to make drugs disappear, I suppose... :roll:

That won't happen. All that will happen is that the common law-abiding people will no longer have guns, while the criminals and the government still will. Defenseless, the common people will either fall to crime or to tyranny, or to both. Don't believe me? Then that would be because you live in a protected fantasy world and have never opened a single history book.
Hitler killed those 12 million people because he had taken the guns from the German people first. Had the German people been armed, there is no way his relatively small number of soldiers could have so easily captured them all.

Back to this guns and kids argument, when will we be banning cars? Because if you want "staggering" numbers, the number of children who die in car accidents every year is beyond "staggering".
Then there's "the gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely." That's bullsh!t. According to the DOJ, 56% of all gun deaths are suicides by the gun owner. That's most likely.
And as protection with a gun being a "joke", why don't you pop by my house sometime after midnight, Classy? Don't bother to knock...

 

[CRXican]

An armed society is a safe society. If the criminals think all of the civilians have guns they will be less likely to victimize them.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why do you gun owners own guns and shotguns and rifles? Im not bashing you guys, but Im curious what the deal is with this "hobby."..?

There are various reasons. The main one I'd say many do is to stay free.

This may sound retarded to the majority who are happily driving their SUV's, with dog and kids, listening to Jessica Simpson, drinking their Cafe Lattes and talking on the cell phone....however, the world as a whole is not so stable right now. Perhaps we can make it another 100 years, maybe 200...perhaps tomorrow the crap hits the fan and martial law is declared....I'd rather be armed than controlled.

No one ever thought 9/11 would ever happen also....didn't change history though.

The unfortunate part is the registration process. That same government you'd like to remain free with, now knows who has and where are the guns. Strategically pulling up large concentrations and bombing those areas is cake.

When I need one I can get a gun, it would be legal, but at that point in time that's not going to be important.

 

[K1052]

The unfortunate part is the registration process. That same government you'd like to remain free with, now knows who has and where are the guns. Strategically pulling up large concentrations and bombing those areas is cake.

Normal firearms transactions are not regularly registered with the government. The dealer holds on to the firearms transfer form that you fill out.