Gun nuts - I need your advice

[bruceb]

And also a Wildey in either .44 Automag, .45 Winchester Mag .45 Widley Mag or .475 Widley Mag calibers .. not too costly, under $3,000

http://www.wildeyguns.com/index.html

 

[Jeeebus]

whoa, whoa, whoa....didn't you post anti-gun comments in another thread?


yep


From this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2316957

Judging by his other recent threads, he's putting a half-hearted effort into trolling.

 

[RossMAN]

I am about to buy my first gun as well and wondering what is a good first time gun ?

Real or imaginary?

 

[irishScott]

Judging by his other recent threads, he's putting a half-hearted effort into trolling.

Damn. And here I was about to give him a couple paragraphs of serious advice.

I wish I had $2000 to plop on a new handgun. Been eye-balling a Dan-Wesson for quite some time.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Real or imaginary?

Imaginary

He should just go play some CSS

 

[Scarpozzi]

I wouldn't base your handgun on the round you "want" to fire. I would base it on how you want to use it.

1. The smaller the round, the lighter the gun can be without huge recoil and the added bonus of having more rounds in the magazine to shoot....thus, the smaller the round, the better to carry my deary. This is why 9mm and .380 are great rounds for concealed carry.

2. .45 calibur rounds are typically safer to shoot indoors because they typically *break up* and fragment due to a lower muzzle velocity. What this means, if you shoot at an intruder in your home and miss, the round will be less likely to go through multiple walls. This is important if you want to protect your family without killing them.

I have a XD9 Subcompact from Springfield Armory. I really like it, but it has no thumb safety. It's a perfect size for concealed carry, but is small in my hand without the extended, 16 round magazine.

If you want a .40, I suggest shopping around for a beginner gun before you invest $900, but if you feel comfortable paying that and really like the handgun, do it. Sig makes excellent firearms and they have very smooth consistent action.

If you're on a budget and want to buy a few guns, look at the Stoeger Cougar, the Taurus 24/7, and just about anything made by Ruger. Those tend to be in the middle price range and are quality firearms. Taurus 24/7 are double action and made in the old Brazilian Baretta plant. (there are some Taurus haters out there)

Umm...also check out American Tactical Imports 1911 in .45. I've seen those go for $399 for a 1911 with tighter action than a Springfield 1911. Very well built and amazing value for the money.

 

[madoka]

Just picked these two up today:

 

[madoka]

Added some more handguns:

 

[Gunslinger08]

Just picked these two up today:

I've never fired a bullpup-style rifle, but they look incredibly uncomfortable to me.

 

[ch33zw1z]

marked for later. getting an FID this year.

 

[madoka]

I've never fired a bullpup-style rifle, but they look incredibly uncomfortable to me.

Actually I find the Tavor to be very well balanced. You should try it out.

 

[irishScott]

I wouldn't base your handgun on the round you "want" to fire. I would base it on how you want to use it.

1. The smaller the round, the lighter the gun can be without huge recoil and the added bonus of having more rounds in the magazine to shoot....thus, the smaller the round, the better to carry my deary. This is why 9mm and .380 are great rounds for concealed carry.

2. .45 calibur rounds are typically safer to shoot indoors because they typically *break up* and fragment due to a lower muzzle velocity. What this means, if you shoot at an intruder in your home and miss, the round will be less likely to go through multiple walls. This is important if you want to protect your family without killing them.

I have a XD9 Subcompact from Springfield Armory. I really like it, but it has no thumb safety. It's a perfect size for concealed carry, but is small in my hand without the extended, 16 round magazine.

If you want a .40, I suggest shopping around for a beginner gun before you invest $900, but if you feel comfortable paying that and really like the handgun, do it. Sig makes excellent firearms and they have very smooth consistent action.

If you're on a budget and want to buy a few guns, look at the Stoeger Cougar, the Taurus 24/7, and just about anything made by Ruger. Those tend to be in the middle price range and are quality firearms. Taurus 24/7 are double action and made in the old Brazilian Baretta plant. (there are some Taurus haters out there)

Umm...also check out American Tactical Imports 1911 in .45. I've seen those go for $399 for a 1911 with tighter action than a Springfield 1911. Very well built and amazing value for the money.

Uh, link to .45 ACP or .45 LC rounds "breaking up". I've never seen it, and it certainly isn't happening in dry-wall. There is "frangible" ammo available in any caliber, but they usually use higher velocities to obtain the force required to fragment the ammo, and sacrifice penetration to do so.

Bottom line is: Be proficient enough to hit what you want under stress. Not just because you'll miss the target, but because you might endanger others by doing so.

 

[exdeath]

I've been hit in the head with a .45 ACP that rebounded off the back stop at 25 yards and back. It wasn't broken up. Depleted of energy by then, but definitely not broken up. Made a nice thud bouncing off my skull.

 

[ManBearPig]

Good lord what is your occupation?!

 

[Jaepheth]

Has anyone here tried the Ruger LCR ?

I'd like to get a new revolver.

 

[Kelvrick]

Uh, link to .45 ACP or .45 LC rounds "breaking up". I've never seen it, and it certainly isn't happening in dry-wall. There is "frangible" ammo available in any caliber, but they usually use higher velocities to obtain the force required to fragment the ammo, and sacrifice penetration to do so.

Bottom line is: Be proficient enough to hit what you want under stress. Not just because you'll miss the target, but because you might endanger others by doing so.

I imagine "breaking up" is easier to do when the velocity is higher. See how the 5.56 rounds lose their ability to fragment as well once they start losing velocity at distance.

 

[boomhower]

Has anyone here tried the Ruger LCR ?

I'd like to get a new revolver.

Solid gun. You could do a lot worse.

 

[irishScott]

Has anyone here tried the Ruger LCR ?

I'd like to get a new revolver.

Heard nothing but good things. Full reviews here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB2nmIcSv1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BmpQqtBAVc

 

[madoka]

So it's been about a year since I started buying guns. I just negotiated for a S&W Model 41, which will the 49th handgun in my collection. Most of the guns I have are pretty pedestrian and often picked just to complete a lineup. For my 50th handgun, I'd like something special, so no more Glocks or M&Ps. Also, nothing that will require months or years to custom build. It should be somewhat available.

So what recommendations would you have?

Here's what I have now:

Beretta M9
Beretta M9A1
Beretta PX4 40 cal
Beretta PX4 9mm
CZ SP01
FN Five-Seven
FN FNS LS 9mm
Glock 17 Gen 3
Glock 17 Gen 3 OD
Glock 17 Gen 4
Glock 17 Gen 4 FDE
Glock 19 Gen 3
Glock 19 Gen 3 OD
Glock 19 Gen 4
Glock 19 Gen 4 FDE
Glock 22 Gen 2
Glock 22 Gen 3
Glock 23 Gen 4
Glock 26 Gen 3
Glock 27 Gen 3
Glock 34 Gen 3
Glock 35 Gen 4
HK 45
HK P2000
HK P30LS
HK USP 40
HK USP 9
Ruger Mark III Competition
Ruger SR1911
S&W M&P 22
S&W M&P 40
S&W M&P 40 Pro
S&W M&P 40c
S&W M&P 45
S&W M&P 9
S&W M&P 9 Pro
S&W M&P 9c
S&W M&P Shield 40
S&W M&P Shield 9
Sig Sauer 1911
Sig Sauer P226 Elite Dark
Sig Sauer P226 TacOps
Sig Sauer P226R
Springfield XDM 40
Springfield XDM 40 Competition
Springfield XDM 45 Competition
Springfield XDM 9 Competition
Walther P22

What I already plan on picking up sometime in the future and that I do not consider to be special:

HK USP 45
Sig Sauer 227
Walther PPQ 5"

 

[irishScott]

All that in a year?! I wish I had your disposable income. My recommendations:

1911: Dan Wesson Specialist. The best 1911 short of custom work IMO, that goes for all Dan Wessons.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=dan+wesson+specialist

Revolver:

Modern: Smith & Wesson M&P R8. Designed as a SWAT heavy entry gun. The guy in front holding the bulletproof shield needed a high-powered gun that could be fired with one hand without a slide that would catch on the side of the shield. So S&W came up with this, arguably the quintessential combat revolver.

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=Smith+&+Wesson+M&P+R8

Classic: Smith & Wesson Model 10. Has been produced continuously since 1899. Has seen action in multiple militaries (including US), wars, and too many police departments to count. Still in use around the world by various police forces and security agencies.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=379690945


Other Semi: Lionheart LH9. An imported/rebranded South Korean military service pistol (Daewoo K5).
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=lionheart
More varieties listed here: http://www.lionheartindustries.com/firearms

 

[RampantAndroid]

Get a nice heirloom FN Hi Power (cast or forged, doesn't matter as long as you're using +P only in defense situations and not using ANY +P+)

Or for a classic, get a Winchester 1897 trench gun - I got a riot length 1897 and it's not only fun, but it looks great.

I'll add another vote to a Dan Wesson - my CCO is great.

Also, 50 guns in a year. Granted, many of them are the cheap glocks and M&Ps, but I wouldn't want that many if I could. I'd rather spend more per gun to get the nicer stuff.

 

[rudeguy]

Get a nice heirloom FN Hi Power (cast or forged, doesn't matter as long as you're using +P only in defense situations and not using ANY +P+)

Or for a classic, get a Winchester 1897 trench gun - I got a riot length 1897 and it's not only fun, but it looks great.

I'll add another vote to a Dan Wesson - my CCO is great.

Also, 50 guns in a year. Granted, many of them are the cheap glocks and M&Ps, but I wouldn't want that many if I could. I'd rather spend more per gun to get the nicer stuff.

you really are....

sigh

50 Glocks, even at rock bottom prices would be roughly $25k.

 

[rudeguy]

good call on not getting a Gen 4 G26. The Gen 3 was the perfect version of that gun.

 

[RampantAndroid]

you really are....

sigh

50 Glocks, even at rock bottom prices would be roughly $25k.

Except he didn't say if they were new, or used. Glocks are around $500 NIB a pop generally (assuming he didn't touch the sights), if you look around. M&Ps I think can hit 3-400. The only expensive guns in that lineup are the H&Ks and the Sigs (again, assuming new.)

Go sigh yourself.

 

[clamum]

All those guns madoka, and you haven't shot a single bullet out of those AR-15s? LOL. I'm not sure I understand as those guns, and the handguns you listed, aren't really collectible (in a historical sense, like a mint parts-correct 1939 M1 Garand or something). I gotta say though, I wish I had your income. :awe: