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TruePaige

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Originally posted by: Steve
Smoking weed is a victimless crime.

It's hard to believe a few self-righteous douchebags are depriving the public of such a great healing, relaxing, pain-killing herb.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: OdiN

Also - it wouldn't cost so much money to jail someone if they didn't bother giving them TV and weight rooms and other bullshit. Toss them in a cell, leave them there. Give them basic nutrition. Make them do hard labor working on roads, building things for the state, etc. - turn their "waste of taxpayer money" into free labor for the state. No need to pay them anything. If they run, just shoot them. They will stop running.


Why would you punish someone just because they did something to themself? Oh my, he smoked/ate/drank something. If anything, they're minding their own business while you are not.

Should someone be punished for doing something illegal?


Maybe you should question what is considered to be illegal. Legality does not define morality.

Morality is not a valid legal defense if you break a law. You can yell and scream all you want about it, you are still breaking the law.

If you want to change the law, fine, go try to do so. But while it is still a law, it is illegal.
 

Farang

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Some of you people are being too hard on the guy.. if you haven't done anything dumber than this than you haven't lived. He just happened to get caught, Lord knows I deserve a lot more on my record than the nothing I have now.
 

JC86

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OP, are you on the Penn State football team? Just heard on ESPN that JoePa suspended three of his players for marijuana arrests. Just thought I'd ask.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: JC86
OP, are you on the Penn State football team? Just heard on ESPN that JoePa suspended three of his players for marijuana arrests. Just thought I'd ask.

lulz

this thread improves. I was thinking that I had an extra two sets of advice, depending on the school

Penn State, or Penn?

very different, hehe
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Farang
Some of you people are being too hard on the guy.. if you haven't done anything dumber than this than you haven't lived. He just happened to get caught, Lord knows I deserve a lot more on my record than the nothing I have now.

yeah, but you're better off for not being dumb about it.


...that's our point ;)
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Farang
Some of you people are being too hard on the guy.. if you haven't done anything dumber than this than you haven't lived. He just happened to get caught, Lord knows I deserve a lot more on my record than the nothing I have now.

yeah, but you're better off for not being dumb about it.


...that's our point ;)

No.. I was a complete moron. I did shit that would make this look like a Harvard Law grad taking the bar exam. My point is everybody does stupid stuff and it is the lucky who don't get caught.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: OdiN

Also - it wouldn't cost so much money to jail someone if they didn't bother giving them TV and weight rooms and other bullshit. Toss them in a cell, leave them there. Give them basic nutrition. Make them do hard labor working on roads, building things for the state, etc. - turn their "waste of taxpayer money" into free labor for the state. No need to pay them anything. If they run, just shoot them. They will stop running.


Why would you punish someone just because they did something to themself? Oh my, he smoked/ate/drank something. If anything, they're minding their own business while you are not.

Should someone be punished for doing something illegal?


Maybe you should question what is considered to be illegal. Legality does not define morality.

Morality is not a valid legal defense if you break a law. You can yell and scream all you want about it, you are still breaking the law.

If you want to change the law, fine, go try to do so. But while it is still a law, it is illegal.

I'm with Odin on this.

until the law changes, no reason to be a dipshit about it. sometimes laws need revisions, but this is not the moral crusade that potheads think they need.

and believe me, ...I'm part of the fight, I'm just not gonna sacrifice myself for something trivial. ;)


...and to be more candid. After visiting Amsterdam, I can appreciate the underground nature that marijuana enjoys in our country. Sure, it's possible that with more widespread acceptance, things may be different, but as of now, Amsterdam is a damn filthy place, for all the wrong reasons.

My point, is that those that travel to Amsterdam don't travel for culture. Most of them are burned-out tour rats (N I should know--I've lived among them) or dipshit fratboys that want to get stoned and fucked by a window prostitute. So, the overall climate shifts from something (expected) of moral tolerance and low crime to one of high crime and dirty tourism. Sucks, b/c the city has so much more to offer than that. Though you would be hard-pressed, especially in the summer, to find an American, or any traveler visiting for the sake of Van Gogh.

Yes, the smoke is top-notch. I don't need to confirm that (though I can ;)), but the policy, at this point, attracts the dregs of society. It's really an all-or-nothing thing. Either it's legal everywhere, or it should probably be relegated to underground status.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Farang
Some of you people are being too hard on the guy.. if you haven't done anything dumber than this than you haven't lived. He just happened to get caught, Lord knows I deserve a lot more on my record than the nothing I have now.

yeah, but you're better off for not being dumb about it.


...that's our point ;)

No.. I was a complete moron. I did shit that would make this look like a Harvard Law grad taking the bar exam. My point is everybody does stupid stuff and it is the lucky who don't get caught.

I honestly don't see why you feel the need to complain about the inevitable masses that will get themselves caught.

It's the only way that others get away with what they do.

Don't wreck a good thing....
hehe

in all seriousness, it will change. Just don't be a dick around authority, and respect it at all times. the ties have loosened, and they will continue to do so.
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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You should move to a democratic country where the government can't tell you what you can and can't do with your own body.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
Originally posted by: meltdown75
you'll be doin a lot of doobie rollin in a van down by the river

oh shut up, everyone at this point knows pot is less harmful than anything else legal, alcohol, nicotine, even those energy drinks...

pot should be legal.

How is bootcamp going btw?

lulz, zanejohnson shows up.

....he's actually correct here, though :eek:
 

I4AT

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Originally posted by: Steve
Originally posted by: OdiN
No.

Seriously though they should toss him in jail for a bit.

The charge on the papers should just say "moron".

What a waste of taxpayer money.

How come very few people think like this?

Every time they throw a dude in jail because of something stupid that only harms himself, I have to help pay for it!

Who really gives a shit?

I would hope the charge disappears and you hear nothing about it..

The reality is that you will most likely have to show up in court to defend some trumped up charges. It was 1 gram? You'll get charged with like 9 pounds. One pipe? That's enough paraphenalia for 100 people. You were on campus? Sex offender! and the soccer moms that run our country rejoice..

Okay then, don't waste taxpayer money.

Just cane the dude and turn him lose.

Also - it wouldn't cost so much money to jail someone if they didn't bother giving them TV and weight rooms and other bullshit. Toss them in a cell, leave them there. Give them basic nutrition. Make them do hard labor working on roads, building things for the state, etc. - turn their "waste of taxpayer money" into free labor for the state. No need to pay them anything. If they run, just shoot them. They will stop running.

This is so true, I used to work for a private contractor that did county work, infrastructure maintenance basically. It was a multi-million dollar contract, and it was HARD fucking work.

You wouldn't believe the kind of shit we had to do,
  • Picking up trash along 3+ mile long two-lane bridges, both sides, while cars whiz by at 60mph, sometimes in the rain

    Weed whacking, mowing, and edging along miles and miles of medians and sidewalks

    Removing dead animal carcasses and obstructions from all interstates

    13-14 hour overnight flagging operations, shutting down and directing all traffic through only 1 open lane of a busy highway, with the only form of communication to a guy a few miles down the road being a hand radio

    Cutting down all dead trees along the roadways by hand with a chainsaw

    Trimming all branches below 14 feet and making sure no roadway signs are covered by debris

    Replacing delineators and signs that assholes just never stop running over/into

    Hand shovelling all the dirt that would build up in sewer drainage pipes and under guardrails

    Filling in potholes and chipped off shoulders

    We once moved 60 ton of rock by hand and tractor under a bridge, 2 guys loaded rock into the bucket, 2 guys under the bridge placed it. That was a four, 14-hour-day event, fucking backbreaking stuff.

We put in A LOT of overtime. I can guarantee you if all the guys in county had to do that shit everyday they would shape the hell up real quick. God I hated that job. Shit, even the trash duty was handled by fucking volunteers, we had high school kids etc. that would come out and pick up trash along the highways in their spare time as part of the Adopt-A-Highway program, and thank god for them, because if they didn't do it we would have been responsible for it, and we had enough on our plates already. There was never a day where we didn't have something to do.
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: zanejohnson
Originally posted by: meltdown75
you'll be doin a lot of doobie rollin in a van down by the river

oh shut up, everyone at this point knows pot is less harmful than anything else legal, alcohol, nicotine, even those energy drinks...

pot should be legal.
it was nothing more than an obligatory motivational speaker PSA. ;)
 

IEC

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Just go for the legal drug: alkyhowl ;)
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I've never smoked pot once. WTF is wrong with you pople who can't find any better way to spend your time than under the influence?

Go watch some more "above the influence" commercials followed by a visit to dea.gov and get back to us with more information. We are desperately in need of "your" opinions!
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: Devine
obligatory you're retarded for smoking in public post

Quoted for the obvious :D

Most stoners are so freakin stupid.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I've never smoked pot once. WTF is wrong with you pople who can't find any better way to spend your time than under the influence?

do you also not drink booze, smoke cigs, drink coffee, soda.......
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I've never smoked pot once. WTF is wrong with you pople who can't find any better way to spend your time than under the influence?

do you also not drink booze, smoke cigs, drink coffee, soda.......

Don't you know? Your body is your temple for god and christ. you don't want to poison them!
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Devine
obligatory you're retarded for smoking in public post

Quoted for the obvious :D

Most stoners are so freakin stupid.

What you're trying to say is that people are stupid. Smoking pot doesn't make stupid people smart. Smoking pot doesn't necessarily make smart people stupid. It might make them a bit goofy depending on the type of person and type of marijuana.

 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: 40Hands
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Devine
obligatory you're retarded for smoking in public post

Quoted for the obvious :D

Most stoners are so freakin stupid.

What you're trying to say is that people are stupid. Smoking pot doesn't make stupid people smart. Smoking pot doesn't necessarily make smart people stupid. It might make them a bit goofy depending on the type of person and type of marijuana.

Two of the smartest people I've ever known were regular potheads (smoked 3-4 times per week). One is getting his Ph.D in some sort of biochemical field and the other is a very successful hedge strategist that easily makes seven figures plus per year.

KT
 
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I've never smoked pot once. WTF is wrong with you pople who can't find any better way to spend your time than under the influence?

do you also not drink booze, smoke cigs, drink coffee, soda.......

No booze for the same reason as no pot. No cigarettes because 1) they're pointless and 2) they're extremely harmful. No coffee cause I never started drinking it "because everybody else was". Soda sometimes.

Why?