Does 3960X offer 40% average increase over a 2600k? or 2700k?
No - it doesn't.
Ya, that's why the smart PC enthusiasts bought the 3930K and overclocked it.
I am sure Intel loves people with more money than brains buying $1k 3970X that's not any faster than an overclocked 3930K. Somehow I think the target market for 3960-3970X are not PC gamers but corporate clients who don't necessarily need dual-Xeons workstations. These clients do not overclock. The X series is for them.
**** there's alotta butthurt AMD Fans - and alot of trolling\griefing NVidia fans.
Is swearing really necessary? If you can't see than NV just effectively raised the price from their historical $499-649 levels to $999 or if that doesn't bother you at all, great!! It doesn't stop other people from expressing their opinions.
- 8800GTX more than doubled the performance of 7900GTX for a minimal price increase
- GTX280 OC for $649 (later fell to $499) was trading blows with previous $1,200 8800GTX SLI
- GTX480/580 OC for $499 were trading blows with $1000 GTX280 SLI
vs.
- NV is asking 2x the price of a GTX680
1 year later. That's not how tech industry normally works and people are simply pointing this out. GTX690's $1K price itself is outdated now since GTX670 SLI is as fast for $300 less, and GTX690 is approaching the 1 year mark.
You can sit here claiming supply-demand, defend NV's pricing all you want, this card is the most overpriced GPU NV has released in the last 5 years. Because NV conditioned the market with $1K GTX690 for most of 2012, people now think $1K single-GPU card is acceptable. As many said, this is what the real GTX680 should have been, so $649, maybe $699 price was in-line with historical price levels. NV knows its customer base well, can't blame them. Apple does the same and many Apple faithful defend Apple's pricing. I am sure there were droves of Apple fanboys defending the initial pricing structure of the new Retina 13-15 inch laptops. We are now starting to see those coming down in price to more reasonable levels.
That said if people are willing to pay these prices, no one is stopping them
40% Increase on the toughest AA scenarios on 25x16 - is very respectable for what GK110 should bring against a GK104.
(Reminscing GF110 vs GF 114).
- GTX680 added 35% more performance at the
same price over the 580 slightly more than 1 year later. 40-45% higher performance for a 100% price increase 1 year later is completely different. So what's next $1,500, $2,000 flagship single-GPUs on 14nm?
You can cry all about the price - but no one when else can bring the same performance in a single GPU - NVidia can do what they want.
So when Maxwell brings 3x the GFLOPs/watt over the Titan, we should be ready to pay $2,000 for a "consumer/workstation" 550mm2 single-GPU card and mid-range Maxwell GTX880 (GM104) is $999? :biggrin:
We see,going out of business, bankruptcy sales on AMD cards all the time now($550-580 7970 launch), we may see that with Titan's pricing. If the card has no market.
The heat from your 460s must have gotten to your over the years. GTX280 was $649 and in 9 months $260 GTX275/HD4890 matched its performance. That's what happens in the GPU industry normally -- performance gets faster at a similar price level or GPUs get cheaper for a given level of performance. Titan does not follow this since it replaces GTX690/GTX680 SLI at the same price but GTX690 is now approaching 1 year old status, which means the 690 has been overpriced for a long-time now. This is a complete reversal of NV users attacking HD7970 when many of us stated that we shouldn't use GTX580's market price at that time to justify HD7970's prices. Yet the same backlash from the same people is nowhere to be seen regarding Titan. The hypocrisy is quite telling.
Looking forward to 12-13 SMX cut down Titans with voltage unlock. Eventually NV should build up enough inventory of excess K20 chips too
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