Fukishima is working again

[halik]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...r-fission-possible-at-fukushima-plant-2-.html

Oh wait...

 

[DesiPower]

ya heard it on BBC this morning, doesn't sound good...

 

[Double Trouble]

Doesn't sound like it's a major issue, but I'm certainly not an expert on such things. TEPCO lost just about all credibility though, so if they come out and say everything is fine, nobody believes them.

 

[Steeplerot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy8GAL_XcVI

Cancers across the board in Japan, children used as experiments for exposure.

Fallout across the west coast and scattered across the US.

The nuke industry obviously holds the corporate purse-strings as the government is doing all of squat at finding hotspots.

Time to shut these genetic crimes against humanity down.

 

[Triumph]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy8GAL_XcVI

Cancers across the board in Japan, children used as experiments for exposure.

Fallout across the west coast and scattered across the US.

The nuke industry obviously holds the corporate purse-strings as the government is doing all of squat at finding hotspots.

Time to shut these genetic crimes against humanity down.

Nuke plants are genetic crimes against humanity?

What kind of crimes are coal burning plower plants?

How many species are affected by hydroelectric power?

How many heavy metals would have to be mined to support high capacity solar power generation?

 

[Ns1]

Nuke plants are genetic crimes against humanity?

What kind of crimes are coal burning plower plants?

How many species are affected by hydroelectric power?

How many heavy metals would have to be mined to support high capacity solar power generation?

shhhh don't bring critical thinking into this

 

[Lithium381]

hopefully they can get their country built back up and everything restored soon

 

[QuantumPion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy8GAL_XcVI

Cancers across the board in Japan, children used as experiments for exposure.

Fallout across the west coast and scattered across the US.

The nuke industry obviously holds the corporate purse-strings as the government is doing all of squat at finding hotspots.

Time to shut these genetic crimes against humanity down.

You have personally caused more cancer deaths due to your fear-mongering than any of the release caused by Fukushima.

 

[QuantumPion]

Here is my technical opinion. The article does not specify what isotope of xenon they detected. There are several stable xenon isotopes produced by fission. Their release and detection would not be an indicator of criticality, nor are they hazardous.

 

[Steeplerot]

Keep buying into lies people, the guy in the video is no hack, but the expert who decommissions plants.

I wish it was fearmongering actually.

Nuke power is done, stick a fork in it.

 

[Steeplerot]

You have personally caused more cancer deaths due to your fear-mongering than any of the release caused by Fukushima.

This is dangerously irresponsible to say when there is so much contamination all over Japan. Literal genocide through ignorance.

You have any idea what all this Iodine-131 does to childrens thyroid glands? Or do they not discuss this in Apologist 101?

Strontium 90 in Tokyo playgrounds, but yeah, Leukemia is just fearmongering.

 

[rcpratt]

I am shocked to see Steeplerot/whatever his old name was in this thread.

 

[Steeplerot]

I am shocked to see Steeplerot/whatever his old name was in this thread.

Hi apologist Nukie =)

 

[Steeplerot]

http://htmlimg3.scribdassets.com/25fq5ea8zk188cf5/images/1-43d9b18645.png

It plainly says Iodine 131 which has too short a half-life to be laying around since March.

Xenon gas is the same deal in aerosol form (with a shorter half-life)

TEPCO guys are not going to do a special boron injection for any old Xenon,

Here we are just a few post in and the apologists start lying and BSing/spinning.

The rumor from Fuku workers on twitter that the "new" element popping up lately along with Xenon 133 is Curium-244 possibly -242.

 

[QuantumPion]

It plainly says Iodine 131 which has too short a half-life to be laying around since March.

Xenon gas is the same deal in aerosol form (with a shorter half-life)

TEPCO guys are not going to do a special boron injection for any old Xenon,

Here we are just a few post in and the apologists start lying and BSing/spinning.

The rumor from Fuku workers on twitter that the "new" element popping up lately along with Xenon 133 is Curium-244 possibly -242.

You think that picture "plainly says I-131"? You really are hallucinating. All I see is what looks like a blank form with a title written in Japanese.

As I stated earlier, there is no need to inject boron for old xenon. Old xenon means stable xenon, produced while the plant was operating. Cm-244 and 242 are transuranics with longer half lives and do not indicate criticality either.

 

[QuantumPion]

This is dangerously irresponsible to say when there is so much contamination all over Japan. Literal genocide through ignorance.

You have any idea what all this Iodine-131 does to childrens thyroid glands? Or do they not discuss this in Apologist 101?

Strontium 90 in Tokyo playgrounds, but yeah, Leukemia is just fearmongering.

Not a single person has died or will ever die from radiation from Fukushima. However I do believe I read at least 1 person died in a car accident trying to flee the area during the event. Fear mongering causes more death than the subject of the fear itself.

 

[QuantumPion]

There are news articles that say traces of Xe-133 and 135 were detected in the reactor vessel. It does not say in what amount. Even when the reactor is shut down, there are still some fissions taking place due to decay neutrons, which could cause trace amounts of Xe or I to be detected.

If a re-criticality did in fact occur, it was in such a small amount to not have caused any detectable increase in radiation, fission product release, or heat generation. It certainly re-opens the question of what the condition of the reactor actually is and if it is severely compromised and capable of criticality that is still problematic.

 

[Steeplerot]

Not a single person has died or will ever die from radiation from Fukushima.

Wow, you are very uninformed. Have you even read anything coming out of Japan?

Childrens shoes covered in Cesium 134/137 WILL have consequences.

Children are already found to have high levels of Iodine 131 in their pee.

Young adults randomly dropping dead of pulmonary related conditions are symptom #1 of cesium in heart tissue of adults.

There are already dark rumors of back-room abortions in droves across northern japan thanks to brains growing of eyesockets because of neurological damage in the womb.

You have a lot to learn about the current situation and the realities of nuclear power on the human body.

 

[Steeplerot]

Fear mongering causes more death than the subject of the fear itself.

This right here is what is killing the Japanese future. Denial of reality. And a bit of cultural racism on the Japanese's part (they consider anyone exposed to radiation "dirty" and "lower class".

Between GE/USA covering their asses and TEPCO/Japan Government the whole of northern Japan becomes a non-mans land slowly.

But yes, the real consequences take years, I am sure in 10 years you apologists will attribute the leukemia to something else, this is always the way it always conviently works with anything nuke/health related.

 

[BladeVenom]

Almost 20,000 dead or missing from the tsunami. But at least it wasn't radiation.

 

[herm0016]

i-131 has a half life of about 8 days. It has been well over 10 half-lives therefore it is said to be gone by most standards. so how exactly are they worried about it now?

 

[Steeplerot]

Almost 20,000 dead or missing from the tsunami. But at least it wasn't radiation.

Those areas did not poison the genetic code for generations to come and left a legacy of slow painful death through Leukemia and such did it?

It is over for the unfortunate people it occurred to.

Fuku and surrounding area will be a non mans land DECADES if not hundreds of years.

 

[Steeplerot]

i-131 has a half life of about 8 days. It has been well over 10 half-lives therefore it is said to be gone by most standards. so how exactly are they worried about it now?

Because the detection of it has not ceased, doubly alarming is it coming from the childrens bodies of the surrounding communities.

The reactors fuel are in full china syndrome mode now burrowing into the groundwater level as we speak still reacting.*

Hence the reports of steam vents coming up from the ground overnight with enormously high readings like only found in Chernobyl.

*No one on the face of the planet knows for sure what the Corium is up to, (it is the most dangerous place on earth under those buildings!) but it is obvious that once it left the pressure vessel, there is only one direction the literal reacting lava (corium) will go. Down (and into the pacific and Northern Japan's water table)

3 Cores on the Floor is probably not even accurate for Fukushima anymore, all 3 corium formations only had 6 feet of concrete to go through to leave the reactor buildings foundations after exiting their drywells under the actual compromised PCV. (pressure containment vessel)



I hope that the corium did like Cherynobyl and spooged through many individual steam pipes and spread itself out into individual hot corium blobs, because it massing together in one big blob pooping out under the reactor building is not good. (keeps the reaction going/harder to cool with water from above also)

The big problem is that there are 3 reactors with individual corium blobs, any of them may have done different things. One thing is for sure, this is a all new challenge for humanity to overcome. Is it worth it?

 

[Nebor]

Is it worth it?

Since you're the only one in here concerned about it, and the rest of the world is still building nuclear power plants, I'm going to venture a guess: yes.

 

[halik]

Wow, you are very uninformed. Have you even read anything coming out of Japan?

Childrens shoes covered in Cesium 134/137 WILL have consequences.

Children are already found to have high levels of Iodine 131 in their pee.

Young adults randomly dropping dead of pulmonary related conditions are symptom #1 of cesium in heart tissue of adults.

There are already dark rumors of back-room abortions in droves across northern japan thanks to brains growing of eyesockets because of neurological damage in the womb.

You have a lot to learn about the current situation and the realities of nuclear power on the human body.

At this point I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not. You do realize it takes years to decades for any damage to DNA via ionizing radiation to actually manifest itself, right?