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trump will continue to be his worst enemy until he destroys himself.

in that regard, we are all so lucky that he really is that stupid.
 
alien42 said:
trump will continue to be his worst enemy until he destroys himself.

in that regard, we are all so lucky that he really is that stupid.
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That's why we can't afford to shut down Trump Tweeting and doing these interviews. There's nothing more helpful than to know just what cartoonish idiocy he's up to.
 
That man has some sort of degenerative brain disease. I've been saying that from the beginning.

I bet if the shit hits the fan for him and he gets called up under oath that'll be his excuse.
 
fskimospy said:
No lawyer here either but that sure seems like an invalid contract to me because Essential Consulting promised something it had no capacity to deliver. The deal wasn't $130k for Daniels' silence, it was $130k AND Trump's promise not to sue her, communicate with her, etc, in exchange for Daniels' silence. Since Trump wasn't even aware of those stipulations there's no way Essential Consulting could deliver on its half of the deal.
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Point of clarification: it isn't the lack of Trump's signature that matters here. It's his professed ignorance of the existence of the agreement.

You are correct. You can't bind someone else to an agreement that they are unaware of, if for no other reason than any bilateral agreement creates obligations on the part of both parties and one who is unaware of his obligations cannot honor them. IMO Cohen and Trump are lying through their teeth when they claim that Trump had no knowledge of the agreement, but they're now boxed in by this lie. I don't see the NDA being enforceable.

I honestly don't understand why Trump doesn't just let her out of the NDA like AMI did in the McDougal case. The real trouble for Trump here is not her story about their affair, which she's essentially told already. It's the possibility for damaging discovery in the lawsuit. Daniels' attorney wants to depose Trump, among other things. Yet the adultery story itself is practically a nothing burger in this day and age.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Point of clarification: it isn't the lack of Trump's signature that matters here. It's his professed ignorance of the existence of the agreement.

You are correct. You can't bind someone else to an agreement that they are unaware of, if for no other reason than any bilateral agreement creates obligations on the part of both parties and one who is unaware of his obligations cannot honor them. IMO Cohen and Trump are lying through their teeth when they claim that Trump had no knowledge of the agreement, but they're now boxed in by this lie. I don't see the NDA being enforceable.

I honestly don't understand why Trump doesn't just let her out of the NDA like AMI did in the McDougal case. The real trouble for Trump here is not her story about their affair, which she's essentially told already. It's the possibility for damaging discovery in the lawsuit. Daniels' attorney wants to depose Trump, among other things. Yet the adultery story itself is practically a nothing burger in this day and age.
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Trump can't lose to someone and if he lets this case drop then I believe he would see this as a defeat and that's consistent with his behavior. But it's too late now as he and Cohen have defamed Stormy to the point that Avenetti could go after them on that issue alone.

As you say Trump could be deposed and given Trump's inconsistent statements having him under oath in front of a judge makes a heck of a lot of sense. Fox gave us an opportunity to see Trump harm himself repeatedly. Imagine if he's in front of a competent judge under oath? I'd wager he'd take the Fifth.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Trump can't lose to someone and if he lets this case drop then I believe he would see this as a defeat and that's consistent with his behavior. But it's too late now as he and Cohen have defamed Stormy to the point that Avenetti could go after them on that issue alone.
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You're right. I shouldn't have said "I don't understand" why Trump doesn't let her out of the NDA, because I do understand. It's the same explanation for most of his behavior: he is a narcissist and an idiot. What I meant was that would have been the logical thing to do.

As you say Trump could be deposed and given Trump's inconsistent statements having him under oath in front of a judge makes a heck of a lot of sense. Fox gave us an opportunity to see Trump harm himself repeatedly. Imagine if he's in front of a competent judge under oath? I'd wager he'd take the Fifth.
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The more Trump talks in any forum, the worse things are going to get for him. He can't help himself.

The thing about this admission on Fox & Friends is that he's practically admitted that he did know about this NDA. If he knew Cohen was representing him in relation to Stormy Daniels, he had to know that it was resolved by NDA. Or else we are left to assume that having asked Cohen to handle the matter, there was never a followup conservation to inform Trump of the outcome.
 
Apparently Trump's comments this morning were already used against him in a court of law. That was fast.

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In a letter to the court filed in advance of the hearing, prosecutors cited Trump’s comments early Thursday on the cable show “Fox and Friends” in which he said Cohen has performed only a “tiny, tiny little fraction” of the president’s legal work.

Prosecutors argued that Trump’s remarks proved that relatively few of the seized documents were likely to be privileged communications between the two men.

The prosecutors’ speedy incorporation of Trump’s Fox interview into legal documents provided a vivid illustration of the strategic downsides of the president’s media interviews and off-the-cuff remarks and tweets — and why lawyers urge their clients to limit public commentary about ongoing legal matters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...90efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.9fff2b1f8607
 
hal2kilo said:
This countries priorities are so f'd. Why is it always the sex, and not the corruption. Took down Clinton, and this may be the vehicle that takes down Trump.
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The religious and their hang ups about sex have too much influence therefore getting them on board with ousting someone for their sex life is easier. Corruption? All you have to do is ask for forgiveness. For many the word of God comes before the law. Sex makes all of us born of sin, in sin and as sinners don'tcha know? Fu*ks so many of them up. Corruption? I believe a lot of religious people find themselves in moments beneath what they believe their character to be therefore much it's much easier to forgive (from the devine and humans) especially in desperation.
 
UNCjigga said:
Apparently Trump's comments this morning were already used against him in a court of law. That was fast.

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In a letter to the court filed in advance of the hearing, prosecutors cited Trump’s comments early Thursday on the cable show “Fox and Friends” in which he said Cohen has performed only a “tiny, tiny little fraction” of the president’s legal work.

Prosecutors argued that Trump’s remarks proved that relatively few of the seized documents were likely to be privileged communications between the two men.

The prosecutors’ speedy incorporation of Trump’s Fox interview into legal documents provided a vivid illustration of the strategic downsides of the president’s media interviews and off-the-cuff remarks and tweets — and why lawyers urge their clients to limit public commentary about ongoing legal matters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...90efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.9fff2b1f8607
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If Trump's words become a party to a court decision can everyone involved in the interview be deposed?

Meaning, anyone @Fox involved in the decision to shutdown the interview. Clearly the stage stooges were under orders to stop Trump from continuing to incriminate himself. Think that order came from the head of Fox?
 
HomerJS said:
If Trump's words become a party to a court decision can everyone involved in the interview be deposed?

Meaning, anyone @Fox involved in the decision to shutdown the interview. Clearly the stage stooges were under orders to stop Trump from continuing to incriminate himself. Think that order came from the head of Fox?
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At the very least the booth was probably losing their collective shit and tried to limit the damage
 
HomerJS said:
If Trump's words become a party to a court decision can everyone involved in the interview be deposed?

Meaning, anyone @Fox involved in the decision to shutdown the interview. Clearly the stage stooges were under orders to stop Trump from continuing to incriminate himself. Think that order came from the head of Fox?
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Oh shut up. It was very important to talk about Kanye's endorsement.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
SO
MUCH
WINNING!
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Frankly, I'm worried about the little orange duck.
Face it, he's a 72 year old man that eats junk food and chases whores.
And the only doctor(s) to look after him are drunkards, druggies, lunatics, yuppies, and weirdos.

I mean, if the guy dropped dead in the middle of a rant on Fox News, we'd have to feel a little sorry for this guy with the orange head.
At least a teeny tiny teeny teeny tiny bit of sorry.
Not only for him, but just think of his poor wife(s), his poor Kid(s), poor old frail Mitch McConnell?
And poor poor clueless Mike Pence?
And Putin? Poor murderous Vladimir Putin?
Putin would have to go around his Russia, personally, lowering every damn hammer and sickle to half mask.

Might be Donald Trump strange? Yes.
A moron? Sure.
Thinned skinned? Obviously.
But.... do we REALLY want to see him drop over ka-plunk? Splat? Pennies over the eyes?
Oh man.... I sure would hope not.
Well, I think not.
Yeah, better hope not. I think. 😉
 
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I laughed and I laughed and I laughed some more. I laughed so hard I ran out of breath, started wheeezing/coughing/gagging and was about to call 911.

FOX News finally got some kind of hilarious comedy act on their show. The looks on the faces of those talking heads at FOX will be my new desktop wallpaper fer like for-evar.
 
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