Florida man kills four

[ch33zw1z]

Not really. The SOLE purpose of a gun is to kill.

That's not what's hard to process. The fact that the mom just shot her two daughters in the back is.

 

[HomerJS]

Taken alive?

Only because he is white.

Black man accused of passing a fake $20 posing no threat to cops or citizens, killed on the scene

 

[Jaskalas]

That's not what's hard to process. The fact that the mom just shot her two daughters in the back is.

I would suggest prior context for that:

With the stress we put each other under, America is real good at breaking people.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I would suggest prior context for that:

It's a fair assessment. Having my own children, and being an emotional person, I still cant wrap my head around it. My kids drive me completely nuts sometimes, but I wouldn't know what to do if something happened to them.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Reviewing news headlines shows that it is not uncommon for parents to kill, or attempt to kill their kids. Guns just make it easier to do at the spur of the moment.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

I say again, this guy needs to be removed from office:

Florida sheriff says he wishes deputies would have killed murder suspect

A Florida sheriff says he wishes his deputies would have killed the former Marine who is accused of killing four people on Sunday.“It would’ve been nice if he’d have come out with a gun and then we…

thehill.com

 

[BUTCH1]

I say again, this guy needs to be removed from office:

Florida sheriff says he wishes deputies would have killed murder suspect

A Florida sheriff says he wishes his deputies would have killed the former Marine who is accused of killing four people on Sunday.“It would’ve been nice if he’d have come out with a gun and then we…

thehill.com

for God's sake he blasted away at a young woman as she held her precious tot until both were dead, I don't usually side with a cop but this guy simply said what everyone else felt. I hope in prison someone gets to him and he suffers a physical beating so bad he dies from it, well deserved.

 

[woolfe9998]

for God's sake he blasted away at a young woman as she held her precious tot until both were dead, I don't usually side with a cop but this guy simply said what everyone else felt. I hope in prison someone gets to him and he suffers a physical beating so bad he dies from it, well deserved.

Yup. Though he'll probably end up in solitary confinement because that is the situation on death row.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Not really. The SOLE purpose of a gun is to kill.

This is an odd statement considering that the vast majority of guns are used, yet the vast majority of guns are not used to kill.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

for God's sake he blasted away at a young woman as she held her precious tot until both were dead, I don't usually side with a cop but this guy simply said what everyone else felt. I hope in prison someone gets to him and he suffers a physical beating so bad he dies from it, well deserved.

If there is anyone the cops should have beat to death, it would be this guy. Why couldn't they beat THIS GUY to death? I would look the other way.

 

[Vic]

This is an odd statement considering that the vast majority of guns are used, yet the vast majority of guns are not used to kill.

His perception is the natural reaction of an outsider to a culture which portrays irresponsible gun ownership as freedom, to the extent that it has used public displays of guns as a means to intimidate and harrass political opponents.
IOW, gun nuts suck. Responsible gun owners see gunownership as a civic duty, not as a convenient means to bully people. Responsible gun owners don't sell guns to criminals, they don't defend laws which allow guns to be sold to criminals, and they don't stockpile armories of guns and ammo with the expectation of criminally using them against their own countrymen.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

This is an odd statement considering that the vast majority of guns are used, yet the vast majority of guns are not used to kill.

I'll take 'What is hunting?' for $10,000 Geordie.

The SOLE purpose of guns is to kill. They have NO other purpose.

 

[ch33zw1z]

This is an odd statement considering that the vast majority of guns are used, yet the vast majority of guns are not used to kill.

It's not an odd statement at all. Guns are made for one thing. They're not made to cut sammiches, tighten bolts....pick something.

 

[Sunburn74]

I own several guns, I'm not remotely prepared to kill a human with them. I think I may certainly be in the minority, as many folks own guns primarily for self defense, but I don't suspect it's an incredibly small minority. I also support drastically more aggressive gun control, so, take my perspective as it is.

I think the idea that I can manage something so therefore it should be freely available in society is a bit of a fallacy. Society'slaws are written to the lowest common denominator, not for the high performing. If everyone was high functioning like yourself we would need almost no laws. There's so many things I can handle perfectly fine that I know the average American can't. Just look at fast food in this country. I can handle it. Many can't.

We really should be asking can the bottom 10% of society handle guns and if the answer is no then we need to fix things: gimp guns so they can't kill as many people, restrict bullets, have strict licensure requirements, I'm just spitballing here but basically the bottom 10% is what we need to be thinking about not the high functioning guys on anandtech who also own a gun.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I'll take 'What is hunting?' for $10,000 Geordie.

The SOLE purpose of guns is to kill. They have NO other purpose.

The purpose of a gun is to fire a bullet.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

It's not an odd statement at all. Guns are made for one thing. They're not made to cut sammiches, tighten bolts....pick something.

So what are most guns used for? You can pick something, but it isn't killing.

 

[VW MAN]

The purpose of a gun is to fire a bullet.

Guns were always weapons. They were always intended to be weapons. Although some specialized guns can be used for signaling, shooting lines, etc., those are derived from weapons, not the other way around. Weapons are why we are at the top of the food chain. If our minds didn’t have the capacity to construct weapons, we could not also construct computers and cars. And guns are the most effective hand-held weapons that can be conveniently stored, transported, and used. There are historians who study human progress by studying the development of weapons, and those historians often do a better job of demonstrating human cultural change and migration patterns than the sociologists do. The first gun was a weapon; if it was not a weapon, it was not a gun.

 

[ch33zw1z]

So what are most guns used for? You can pick something, but it isn't killing.

Start my car.

There's only one intended purpose for a gun, and they're very good at it.

 

[Leeea]

"Voices from God."

This will definitely be an insanity defense. Fortunately insanity defenses rarely work.

Personally, I hope he wins his insanity defense.

How do I put this:
Death Penalty = humane quick checkout
Criminal Insane in the State of Florida? = dungeon. Straitjacket, strapped to the bed, small dark room, spit mask, rest of his life.

I know what I prefer. But I am feeling a bit evil at the moment.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

The purpose of a gun is to fire a bullet.

So what are most guns used for? You can pick something, but it isn't killing.

And what does the round (bullet, shot, etc.) do when it hits the target that happens to be a deer, duck, rabbit, Elk, grouse, squirrel, person, etc.?

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Guns were always weapons. They were always intended to be weapons. Although some specialized guns can be used for signaling, shooting lines, etc., those are derived from weapons, not the other way around. Weapons are why we are at the top of the food chain. If our minds didn’t have the capacity to construct weapons, we could not also construct computers and cars. And guns are the most effective hand-held weapons that can be conveniently stored, transported, and used. There are historians who study human progress by studying the development of weapons, and those historians often do a better job of demonstrating human cultural change and migration patterns than the sociologists do. The first gun was a weapon; if it was not a weapon, it was not a gun.

I was responding to a poster who said the SOLE purpose of a gun is to kill. If the purpose of a gun is to kill....the ONLY purpose, then why are they almost never used to do that? Why are the vast majority of their uses (like 99.99+%) NOT for killing?

It seems logical to me that there is more purpose to a gun than killing. Is it great at killing? Yes! Is it great at the things that is almost always used for (hint: not killing)? Yes, also.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Start my car.

There's only one intended purpose for a gun, and they're very good at it.

Guns are very good at killing. They are very good at the things they are used for 99.99% of the time as well. It turns out there are far more things guns are used for than killing. If they are indented only for killing, why is that not even 0.01% of what they are used for?

 

[sactoking]

 

[Pipeline 1010]

And what does the round (bullet, shot, etc.) do when it hits the target that happens to be a deer, duck, rabbit, Elk, grouse, squirrel, person, etc.?

It kills/wounds it. How often is the use of gun for that instead of not killing? Admit it. There is more than one purpose for a gun.

 

[VW MAN]

I was responding to a poster who said the SOLE purpose of a gun is to kill. If the purpose of a gun is to kill....the ONLY purpose, then why are they almost never used to do that? Why are the vast majority of their uses (like 99.99+%) NOT for killing?

It seems logical to me that there is more purpose to a gun than killing. Is it great at killing? Yes! Is it great at the things that is almost always used for (hint: not killing)? Yes, also.

Killing is a gun's intended use not matter how hard you try to make it otherwise. Sure they "can" be used for other things - hunting (which is a form of killing), target practice (practice at killing) etc. A gun is and was always a weapon of war, a weapon of killing. War or killing between 2 individuals or multiple countries across the globe. Sure guns are also a deterrent to killing, but only by the threat of killing.