Phoenix86
Lifer
- May 21, 2003
- 14,644
- 10
- 81
You mean he wasn't AWOL?!?
I don't recall seeing *that* much coverage of this story, it was covered, they showed the video (quite a bit) then it fell off the map. It was only around for a couple of days in the national media.
So the lack of proof=proof it didn't happen? I'm thinking no... Cops make arrests all day long w/o video, are you upset about that too?
Judge: What happened.
Cop: Your honor, I saw them steal a loaf of bread off the counter and walk out the store with out paying.
Judge: Got video?
Cop: No.
Judge: Dismissed!
You OK with that?
edit: clipped unnecessary quotes.
If that is true, why wasn't everything in his partner's report. If this is indeed true, then the officer has the right to protect himself and the punch and slam against the hood was justified.
This is exactly my contention. If the teenager did grab the balls, then it should have been in the report and retaliation would have been jusitified. However there is no mention of this ball grabbing until after they were caught. Very fishy...
His partner filed the report, not him. His partner could've forgotten about it, thought it wasn't necessary in the report, whatever. Maybe the cops felt them hitting him was punishment enough for the grab. I honestly do not know why it was left out.
Vic
Elite Member
- Jun 12, 2001
- 50,422
- 14,337
- 136
If you read the article, you will see that neither officer nor his partner included the testicle-grabbing incident or the beating they gave the suspect in their official reports. This is why his partner received his 10-day suspension. It was not until AFTER the bystander videotape showing the beating came out that they changed their stories and claimed the testicle-grabbing incident. I have followed this story since it was first made public back in the summer of 02.
Your analogy doesn't work.
What I am not okay with are police officers who think they are above the law, or seek to hide behind the badge to justify their own criminally violent behaviors.
Vic
Elite Member
- Jun 12, 2001
- 50,422
- 14,337
- 136
Well, his partner "forgot" to include the beating they gave the handcuffed suspect in the report as well. Then the testicle-grabbing incident and their admission of the beating came out after the videotape was released to the media.
Coincidence? I think not.
It was not a "beating," the officer punched the kid and threw him against the car. I'd like to see how many police officers actually report every time they toss someone against the car for being uncooperative. Do you know if the police report said if the suspect was being uncooperative?
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
- Jul 3, 2003
- 74,578
- 982
- 126
Vic
Elite Member
- Jun 12, 2001
- 50,422
- 14,337
- 136
Really? So if one civilian were to attack another in a similar fashion, you would disapprove of the prosecutor calling the incident a "beating" at the felony assault trial?
Bingo.
For the record: I don't care about the suspect. What I do care about is that allowing (hell, rewarding based on the lawsuit award) this type of corrupt behavior from bad cops makes every good cop in America look bad, and further erodes the public's faith in our legal system. And I care about that quite a bit. As probably 99% of the cops in America are "good", I cannot for the life of me figure out why they protect the very few bad cops.
Yes I would disagree with the term being used. That is not a beating. If this was brought to trial between civilians, it would've probably been thrown out because it's ridiculous. Party A was wrong to sexually assault and grab Party B's balls first, and Party B was wrong to have hit and thrown Party A. If this was a beating, the kid would've been in a lot worse shape than from just a punch and a shove.
I'm not saying the cop was totally right; he should've been placed on administrative leave, or been possibly suspended without pay, but he should not have lost his job. I mean if someone grabs your balls, how would you go about getting them to stop?
He lost his job because of the suspect being black and being labeled as a racist by the media, and I'm glad he was compensated for the unfair treatment. The compensation is a little much, but he definitely deserved something. He is not a bad cop, he just overreacted.
Me too. Sadly, I don't think it's going to be any time soon.
Part of my family lives in Oklahoma. The entire city they live in is STILL segregated between blacks and whites. Literally everything, including school and a hospital with two wings -one for blacks, one for whites-, etc. However, there's no major crimes committed based on race. It's just like two completely different worlds living in the same place.While that kind of bullsh|t still exists in some parts of the contry, I think most of the stories you hear about racist in the media come from areas where racism isn't a problem --just the people who try pulling the card because they're just trying to get what they want, no matter what the cost.
Vic
Elite Member
- Jun 12, 2001
- 50,422
- 14,337
- 136
You're dense or something. Falsifying police reports is an overreaction? Breaking the law by assaulting a handcuffed suspect wasn't grounds enough to lose his job? It just had to be the race issue right, not that they broke the law by covering the incident up, right?
"I mean" if I was a professional police officer, I would know that the first rule they teach in the police acadamies about dealing with a handcuffed suspect is to not place yourself in a situation where that suspect could potentially harm you in the first place.
In short, you're an idiot.
Phoenix86
Lifer
- May 21, 2003
- 14,644
- 10
- 81
I agree that's much more relevant, you noted the lack of video evidence in your post, which I though was pointless...
Considering it was left out of the report until after the fact I don't see the justifcation for the award. Tough call about wether or not he should have been fired... I think that would have been the prudent thing, so I guess you have moved me to the other side of the fence. I think he should have been fired for not including relelvant details in the report, and the jury shouldn't have awarded him anything because there was valid reason.
How did he falsify the police report? It was his partner that did so, and he was suspended for 10 days. He wasn't fired. Rightfully so for not documenting it.
Also, the assault case was dismissed, so I guess some people felt he was justified in his actions resulting from a suspect grabbing his balls. He should not have been fired over it. A desk job, administrative leave, suspension; any of those would've been suitable. Not termination.
So you're telling me, in your trained profession, you've never been in a situation where you could lapse in your thinking, and have something occur as a result of it. Do you have a link to the video of the arrest? Because the grabbing could've happened a number of times where the officer is close enough to make the arrest. If you're behind a suspect, you'd assume you are reasonably safe if they're bent over and you are next to them. If he had gotten kicked in the face because he was looking at the suspects shoe laces, that would've been a whole different story.
The police officer who filed the report was not the one whos testicles was grabbed. The police officer who filed the report was suspended for 10 days.
Exactly. The guy is branded a racist. And having been fired from a Police Officer position, he will never be able to get a job as a cop again. If he has spent a majority of his working years a cop and was wanting to do it till retirement, 1.6Mil isn't overboard.
If he were to make $75,000 a year(which is easy to do with OT and side jobs) in 30years when he retires he would have made $2.25mil. He is getting short changed since he also going to have to pay taxes and his lawyer.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 22K
-
News NVIDIA and Intel to Develop AI Infrastructure and Personal Computing Products- Started by poke01
- Replies: 384
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 23K
Facebook
Twitter