Fidel Castro dead at 90

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sportage

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Castro came into power much like Trump.
In Cuba, pre-Castro era you had the elites vs the poor.
A lot of government corruption.
A system of the wealthy that was stacked in favor for the wealthy.
And as with Trump, the people had just about enough of that.

And probably as will Trump, Castor too took control solely powered by the people. But then once in power nixed many of his promises including the promise for free elections and nixed many of his promises made to those that gave him power.
However... Castor did give his people all inclusive national healthcare, as it were.
Maybe that will be Trump's goal?

I think we will find many similarities between Castor and Trump when it comes to the promises vs the actual deeds.
And like Castro, Trump can not and will not tolerate opposition.
Those that dared oppose Castro had a tendency of mysteriously disappearing.
We will see if that becomes the case under Donald Trump.
And I believe there is already plenty of evidence pointing to exactly that.
Take for example, the press being tossed out of Trump Tower, and Trump attacks directed at individual reporters.
And Trump's new thing going is to simply bypass the press altogether by creating his own insider news coverage.
Of whatever he calls it...?

All I know... maybe those reporters and Trump opponents will not mysteriously disappear under the rule of Donald Trump, but I do expect Trump to isolate most of the press and every opponent from having any access to his administration.
You either play nice with Donald, or your out the door. Period!
So when it comes down to it, what is the difference?
Either way, and as with Castro, Trump will be intolerant of the press the media, and of every single named reporter that dare take him on.

PS.
And Fidel Castro is still dead. :( :)
 

compuwiz1

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Castro came into power much like Trump.
In Cuba, pre-Castro era you had the elites vs the poor.
A lot of government corruption.
A system of the wealthy that was stacked in favor for the wealthy.
And as with Trump, the people had just about enough of that.

And probably as will Trump, Castor too took control solely powered by the people. But then once in power nixed many of his promises including the promise for free elections and nixed many of his promises made to those that gave him power.
However... Castor did give his people all inclusive national healthcare, as it were.
Maybe that will be Trump's goal?

I think we will find many similarities between Castor and Trump when it comes to the promises vs the actual deeds.
And like Castro, Trump can not and will not tolerate opposition.
Those that dared oppose Castro had a tendency of mysteriously disappearing.
We will see if that becomes the case under Donald Trump.
And I believe there is already plenty of evidence pointing to exactly that.
Take for example, the press being tossed out of Trump Tower, and Trump attacks directed at individual reporters.
And Trump's new thing going is to simply bypass the press altogether by creating his own insider news coverage.
Of whatever he calls it...?

All I know... maybe those reporters and Trump opponents will not mysteriously disappear under the rule of Donald Trump, but I do expect Trump to isolate most of the press and every opponent from having any access to his administration.
You either play nice with Donald, or your out the door. Period!
So when it comes down to it, what is the difference?
Either way, and as with Castro, Trump will be intolerant of the press the media, and of every single named reporter that dare take him on.

PS.
And Fidel Castro is still dead. :( :)

You're an unabashed fatalist. The world must be a really scary place for you. Assuming you live in the USA (under your bed doesn't count), he is your president too.
 

agent00f

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This is sadly very true. Nobody in their right mind would defend Castro. The best thing you could reasonably say about him is that he wasn't a despot on the level of Kim Jong-Ill, Pol Pot, Mao or Idi Amin. I have a friend who's father spent years in prison getting beaten regularly because he said something slightly negative about a local member of the government.

I've been to Cuba and know a lot of people from there. They're all celebrating like crazy. The oppression under Castro is not to be underestimated. Good riddance to bad trash, I hope he burns in hell.

The first ones to leave Cuba after the revolution were the ones with money and means, but after that pretty much anyone who got the chance escaped, even though they knew their families would pay the price.

Fidel hasn't been running the country for a good while now, but at least with him officially gone there can be changes in the relations between the US and Cuba.


You appear one of those types who milk sympathy for the cuban people for political expedience, but in order to do so need to support the embargo which causes much of the economic issues for them.

These really are the worst types.
 

agent00f

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No he's not. That's what the left / democrats campaigned on, as they have done anytime they've run against republicans. This time it boiled over and people are sick of it. You can't win elections by insulting large portions of the electorate. It's going to be a long road back for democrats.

Just a heads up GOP has been insulting the intelligence of much of their base by assuming they'll believe or otherwise go along with anything. Just because you don't like to be belittled by educated people doesn't mean that base isn't far more riled up by racial resentment. After all, trump didn't rally that crowd by putting an elitist up on the podium.
 

Grooveriding

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He felt it was time.
 

Zaap

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The left loves throwing out false charges of "Hitler!" and "You support Nazis!" against the right all day long, yet a lot of leftists actively fawn adoration and literally drop to their knees smearing on whore-red lipstick for communist dictators and thugs. "But don't call us commies!!"

Good riddance to a piece of garbage. The fact that you can find fawning leftwing useful idiots the world over for this POS doesn't really play in the left's favor, just illustrates the point.

It's also indicative that many first world leftists- IF given the chance- would construct or fawningly allow the construction of the same sort of closed, totalitarian, neighbor-ratting-out-neighbor, worshiped 'Dear Leader' political god in charge of all, wasteland society as Cuba. A few scraps tossedto the poor -as MOST people are never allowed to progress past- "Free shitty healthcare for all!" and some praising speeches from 'Dear Leader' (rolling around in obscene luxury) and all is paradise.

Hell just got another lump of coal.
 

JSt0rm

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The left loves throwing out false charges of "Hitler!" and "You support Nazis!" against the right all day long, yet a lot of leftists actively fawn adoration and literally drop to their knees smearing on whore-red lipstick for communist dictators and thugs. "But don't call us commies!!"

You are the victim.

Hell just got another coal.

Hell doesn't exist. There is no afterlife.
 

Zaap

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Victim, lol! Says the dumbasses still shitting themselves over Batista!

Almost 60 years of living under the thumb of a tyrant asshole, and whining "B-Buut Batista!!!! Yes Dear Leader....unzip!"


Idiot tools. Go buy some t-shirts from capitalists of your communist idols.
 

JSt0rm

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Victim, lol! Says the dumbasses still shitting themselves over Batista!

Almost 60 years of living under the thumb of a tyrant asshole, and whining "B-Buut Batista!!!! Yes Dear Leader....unzip!"


Idiot tools. Go buy some t-shirts from capitalists of your communist idols.

Is it just me? I don't understand a single sentence of this?
 

JSt0rm

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however "capitalists of your communist idols" would be a great album name for a band.
 
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Zaap

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You're the forum idiot, Jstorm. No one expects you to understand anything said.
 

JSt0rm

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You're the forum idiot, Jstorm. No one expects you to understand anything said.

sure buddy. Whatever you think I guess. I think Im gonna look back through your posts to find more album names though...
 

Commodus

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The left loves throwing out false charges of "Hitler!" and "You support Nazis!" against the right all day long, yet a lot of leftists actively fawn adoration and literally drop to their knees smearing on whore-red lipstick for communist dictators and thugs. "But don't call us commies!!"

Good riddance to a piece of garbage. The fact that you can find fawning leftwing useful idiots the world over for this POS doesn't really play in the left's favor, just illustrates the point.

It's also indicative that many first world leftists- IF given the chance- would construct or fawningly allow the construction of the same sort of closed, totalitarian, neighbor-ratting-out-neighbor, worshiped 'Dear Leader' political god in charge of all, wasteland society as Cuba. A few scraps tossedto the poor -as MOST people are never allowed to progress past- "Free shitty healthcare for all!" and some praising speeches from 'Dear Leader' (rolling around in obscene luxury) and all is paradise.

Hell just got another lump of coal.

You're creating a straw man, I think. Not everyone on the left thinks that way, and I suspect most don't.

I prefer left-wing politics, but I don't think Castro was someone to be praised. He was proof that the universe isn't fair: yes, he overthrew a corrupt regime that had to go, but his solution wasn't really any better. The problem is that some on the left see Castro as partly redeemed by the revolution he led, or even that he's a hero. He's not, and the sooner we humanize politicians the better.
 

Jhhnn

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What does Batista have to do with whether or not Castro was a brutal dictator? All the Cuban people I know (and I know a lot of them) are celebrating his death.

The exiles & their descendants? Of course.

The people who stayed? Probably not so much.
 

Abwx

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What does Batista have to do with whether or not Castro was a brutal dictator? All the Cuban people I know (and I know a lot of them) are celebrating his death.

We ll see when any of the Bush will be dead if there will be any mourning in any part of the world, likely that there will be celebations everywhere, i doubt that there will be much of mourning even in the US set apart for the official conservatives reps...

Since Castro took power US presidents crushed many democracies and killed infinitely more people but we have here people who have the guts to point a sand dust while ignoring whole mountains.

Does it occur to you that Pinochet who was a much more brutal dictator was put in place by the US while killling a legally elected president..?..

Of course that doesnt count for the self entitled conservatives who are actually a bunch of liars and hypocrits who use values that are foreign to their ideology to advance ther agenda, as if the party who crushed legaly elected Allende or Mossadegh was actually concerned by democracy, really, you must be kidding...
 

Double Trouble

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Bla bla bla say the retarded, you are just an hypocrit who is ignoring facts, here the system you are praising and mourning :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

And dont come with the fallacy that we are 60 years later...

Batista doesn't have anything to do with the death of Fidel. Bitching about Batista being a bad guy doesn't change a damned thing, and bitching about how evil the US is just makes you look like a moron. Fidel was an oppressive dictator for six decades, may he burn in hell now and may the Cuban people move on.
 

Grooveriding

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Batista doesn't have anything to do with the death of Fidel. Bitching about Batista being a bad guy doesn't change a damned thing, and bitching about how evil the US is just makes you look like a moron. Fidel was an oppressive dictator for six decades, may he burn in hell now and may the Cuban people move on.

When his cardiopulmonary system shutdown his brain tissue was no longer being oxygenated. When that happened his brain tissue died, taking his memories, emotions and personality with it. He's dead now, that's it. Not in an imaginary burning place.
 

buckshot24

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We ll see when any of the Bush will be dead if there will be any mourning in any part of the world, likely that there will be celebations everywhere, i doubt that there will be much of mourning even in the US set apart for the official conservatives reps...

Since Castro took power US presidents crushed many democracies and killed infinitely more people but we have here people who have the guts to point a sand dust while ignoring whole mountains.

Does it occur to you that Pinochet who was a much more brutal dictator was put in place by the US while killling a legally elected president..?..

Of course that doesnt count for the self entitled conservatives who are actually a bunch of liars and hypocrits who use values that are foreign to their ideology to advance ther agenda, as if the party who crushed legaly elected Allende or Mossadegh was actually concerned by democracy, really, you must be kidding...
What are you talking about? None of this makes Fidel a good guy, he was a brutal dictator. If Fidel were a brutal dictator that the US government supported and propped up he'd still be a brutal dictator. Maybe you really are Fidel, I'll forward your posts to Alex Jones for analysis.
 

buckshot24

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When his cardiopulmonary system shutdown his brain tissue was no longer being oxygenated. When that happened his brain tissue died, taking his memories, emotions and personality with it. He's dead now, that's it. Not in an imaginary burning place.
Believe what you want, meat machine, your beliefs have no bearing on reality, just keep that in mind.
 

Abwx

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Batista doesn't have anything to do with the death of Fidel. Bitching about Batista being a bad guy doesn't change a damned thing, and bitching about how evil the US is just makes you look like a moron. Fidel was an oppressive dictator for six decades, may he burn in hell now and may the Cuban people move on.

Lol the ratarded conservative who absolve the millions of crimes of his leaders, typical of the US supremacists a la KKK...

Castro is a saint compared to the evilness of the US goverenments that existed during his whole life, facts are facts that it please you or not, the US record in central and south America speak by itself...

Keep living in your disney land based ideology but do not pretend to be any competent for these matters, in the rest of the world we are not constantly brainwashed by the US government propaganda wich, looking at your stance, is extremely efficient for whom has deserted class rooms at an early age...

What are you talking about? None of this makes Fidel a good guy, he was a brutal dictator. If Fidel were a brutal dictator that the US government supported and propped up he'd still be a brutal dictator. Maybe you really are Fidel, I'll forward your posts to Alex Jones for analysis.

So far Castro didnt waste all his time torturing whole countries because they refused to abide by the US orders...

The US killed infinitely more innocents people than Castro, but since you re completely ignoring this fact it means that you are not competent to discuss these matters other than with other KKK inspired supremacists of your kind.
 
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buckshot24

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Lol the ratarded conservative who absolve the millions of crimes of his leaders, typical of the US supremacists a la KKK...

Castro is a saint compared to the evilness of the US goverenments that existed during his whole life, facts are facts that it please you or not, the US record in central and south America speak by itself...

Keep living in your disney land based ideology but just pretend to be any competent for these matters, in the rest of the world we are not constantly brainwashed by the US government propaganda wich, looking at your stance, is extremely efficient for whom has deserted class rooms at an early age...
Nothing absolves Fidel of his crimes, you're the only hack absolving anybody of anything.