Fidel Castro dead at 90

[Abwx]

Believe what you want, meat machine, your beliefs have no bearing on reality, just keep that in mind.

You aknowledged that you are stupid, if his belief has no reality whu should you belief that there s a world after death have any reality..?...

At least grooveriding is making a statement out of observation, or rather lack of since he dont have any proof that a world after death exist, while what you are saying amount to pretend that there s a cosmic tea pot orbiting around a star one billion light years from here...

 

[buckshot24]

You aknowledged that you are stupid, if his belief has no reality whu should you belief that there s a world after death have any reality..?...

At least grooveriding is making a statement out of observation, or rather lack of since he dont have any proof that a world after death exist, while what you are saying amount to pretend that there s a cosmic tea pot orbiting around a star one billion light years from here...

Well, maybe he can show us his observations of what the after life is actually like then. I hadn't realized I was talking to a man who died and had anything meaningful to say about the subject. Silly me.

He made a positive claim and he has no evidence to suggest it is true and Fidel is still a brutal dictator.

 

[Abwx]

Nothing absolves Fidel of his crimes, you're the only hack absolving anybody of anything.

History will judge him, as it will judge your beloved serial killer Bush jr, for the rest i must admit that it s a pain in a..S to "discuss" with people who think that ignorance is an argument...

 

[Grooveriding]

I wouldn't engage with him. Buttshot is a simpleton troll. His contributions here never go beyond a need for negative attention by saying inane crap to get a reaction.

 

[buckshot24]

I wouldn't engage with him. Buttshot is a simpleton troll. His contributions here never go beyond a need for negative attention by saying inane crap to get a reaction.

I have no such need and you have no such evidence to support your assertions.

 

[buckshot24]

History will judge him, as it will judge your beloved serial killer Bush jr, for the rest i must admit that it s a pain in a..S to "discuss" with people who think that ignorance is an argument...

I don't love Bush Jr. He failed us in so many ways. You really should question your assumptions more often and Fidel Castro was a murderer no matter what anybody else is guilty of.

 

[Zaap]

You're creating a straw man, I think. Not everyone on the left thinks that way, and I suspect most don't.

Who said *most* do? You nearly created a strawman out of an attempted accusation of one.

And we all know, it's absolutely true, more leftists are perfectly comfortable openly supporting the left's versions of brutal dictator assholes, than people on the right are of supporting anyone like Hitler. Show up just about *ANYWHERE* in a Hitler t-shirt, waving nazi flags, and anyone would be ridiculed. No mainstream rightwinger would be caught dead doing that.

But you full well know you could parade around in a Castro t-shirt among your fellow leftwingers and spout drivel about how great that pile of crap was, and all the "free healthcare!" bullshit, with a nice steaming helping of anti-your-own-country BS quoted from that shitsack, and you'd get not so much as an eye blink. Drooling over communist tyrants is commonplace on the left. You can nuh-uh it all you like, but we all know it's true. Hopefully you don't have to hide a Che t-shirt or anything.

I prefer left-wing politics, but I don't think Castro was someone to be praised. He was proof that the universe isn't fair: yes, he overthrew a corrupt regime that had to go, but his solution wasn't really any better. The problem is that some on the left see Castro as partly redeemed by the revolution he led, or even that he's a hero. He's not, and the sooner we humanize politicians the better.

Glad you're sensible about Castro being just another dictator prick with much blood on his hands, who held his own country down for nearly 60 years, blaming the shit results on Batista and the US.

Anyone who can go on and on about Donald Trump being some kind of Hitler, yet fall down on their knees for a true dictator, murdering thug like Castro- is just a straight up, shit for brains moron. The type that make dictatorships possible, and as I said, if actually given a chance, would turn the free world into totalitarian shitholes, so long as they thought whatever Dear Leader was getting over on some rich person they are jealous of.

 

[Blue_Max]

You're creating a straw man, I think. Not everyone on the left thinks that way, and I suspect most don't.
I prefer left-wing politics, ...

What USED to be called liberalism doesn't think this way. Liberalism used to be all about freedom of speech and against Big Government ruling their lives. Leftists have continued to drift further over to the left into something else, though... to this authoritarian state where if you don't agree with (and give in to) 'the collective' (which goes by many names but shares the same agendas) then you're branded as 'evil'. "Good" ™ can only exist within their collective, and the collective's rules are adhered to without question on pain of banishment and punishment equal to or worse than that given to unbelievers.

It really should be called by an agreed-on name... "left" is insufficient, as many liberals (like myself) simply don't fit this new "progressive" mold.

 

[Commodus]

What USED to be called liberalism doesn't think this way. Liberalism used to be all about freedom of speech and against Big Government ruling their lives. Leftists have continued to drift further over to the left into something else, though... to this authoritarian state where if you don't agree with (and give in to) 'the collective' (which goes by many names but shares the same agendas) then you're branded as 'evil'. "Good" ™ can only exist within their collective, and the collective's rules are adhered to without question on pain of banishment and punishment equal to or worse than that given to unbelievers.

It really should be called by an agreed-on name... "left" is insufficient, as many liberals (like myself) simply don't fit this new "progressive" mold.

You're not liberal, no matter how much you try to claim it. Liberals actually embrace people who aren't like them.

 

[Abwx]

You're not liberal, no matter how much you try to claim it. Liberals actually embrace people who aren't like them.

Those conservatives are so backward and retarded that when they finally adopt a balanced stance on a given subject they feel that they are liberals..

A good exemple was that they supported the apartheid regime in South Africa almost till the end of its existence while all of the civilized people, and among us Castro, has been supporting Mandela s ANC for years.

 

[compuwiz1]

You're not liberal, no matter how much you try to claim it. Liberals actually embrace people who aren't like them.

That, sir, is a load of shit. I have many friends who are liberal. They will embrace you right up until you say something they don't agree with you on. Then there is a sudden let-go and some nasty, hateful things that get said. I've been there a zillion times. The best step, at least for me, is to not even attempt to have political discussions with them. Bob and I can work on a car on a Saturday afternoon, drink a few beers, talk about women, or whatever, but I know better than to engage in politics and so does he. He's a liberal and I lean conservative. We got into a huge fight a few years back and didn't talk to each other. The loss of a common friend brought us back together and we both apologized. Upon renewing our friendship, we made some ground rules.

In general, especially now, I'm finding the liberals less tolerant than advertised.

PS. I don't know you personally and maybe you are how you say, but all I'm saying is that hasn't been my experience.

 

[sportage]

So.... Is he still dead ?

 

[Zaap]

You're not liberal, no matter how much you try to claim it. Liberals actually embrace people who aren't like them.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The blazing irony of that statement is absolutely hilarious!

Yeah... you're so "tolerant", some of your most deep-seated ire is reserved for other liberals who don't think *EXACTLY* like you, to the point you don't even accept them as liberals!

That was a great laugh! Thanks!

 

[Abwx]

So.... Is he still dead ?

He was almost killed by the cuban army, but for some reason the commander gave up the hunting and when asked why he took this decision to not go after Castro he answered that we cant kill ideas...

 

[agent00f]

Victim, lol! Says the dumbasses still shitting themselves over Batista!

Almost 60 years of living under the thumb of a tyrant asshole, and whining "B-Buut Batista!!!! Yes Dear Leader....unzip!"

Idiot tools. Go buy some t-shirts from capitalists of your communist idols.

The united states has no qualms propping up the most brutal dictators. Your lot like buckshot et al obviously don't care what happens to brownies unless it's politically convenient. That says a lot about character.

 

[compuwiz1]

The united states has no qualms propping up the most brutal dictators. Your lot like buckshot et al obviously don't care what happens to brownies unless it's politically convenient. That says a lot about character.

I'm getting a WWYBYWB kind of vibe about you. You are NOT new to these forums. Steps in here and has a 4400+ post count in less than six months. That takes a 24/7 agenda. No sane person lives on a forum that much, period. Your posts are intelligent, but I know a lot of insane people, who happen to be intelligent. Who are you? Your posting style is very familiar. Sniff....

Information is coming to me and I'm about to blow your cover. I think I know who you are.

***For my protection, I am declaring that you are not to PM me***

 

[agent00f]

I'm getting a WWYBYWB kind of vibe about you. You are NOT new to these forums. Steps in here and has a 4400+ post count in less than six months. That takes a 24/7 agenda. No sane person lives on a forum that much, period. Your posts are intelligent, but I know a lot of insane people, who happen to be intelligent. Who are you? Your posting style is very familiar. Sniff....

Information is coming to me and I'm about to blow your cover. I think I know who you are.

***For my protection, I am declaring that you are not to PM me***

Hardly a surprise those least equipped to discern people/nuances/anything always claim this the most.

 

[Abwx]

So.... Is he still dead ?

Currently his brain is surely devoured by worms but it s undoubtly still way more functional and smart than any conservative s "brain"...

 

[Genx87]

One less scumbag dictator in the world. Buh bye!

 

[Commodus]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The blazing irony of that statement is absolutely hilarious!

Yeah... you're so "tolerant", some of your most deep-seated ire is reserved for other liberals who don't think *EXACTLY* like you, to the point you don't even accept them as liberals!

That was a great laugh! Thanks!

He's not a liberal. He treats anyone who doesn't fit traditional gender definitions as subhuman; he has a profound contempt for women who assert their rights; he resents attempts by government to grant more rights and freedoms to those groups. Being liberal means you resist attempts to curtail the freedoms of others.

To quote a former Prime Minister from his country: "there’s no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation." So why is he so eager to decide what kind of sexuality is okay?

And for that matter... if he's liberal, why is he such a Trump cheerleader? You know, the guy whose administration is defined by people who would sorely like to turn the clock back to 1950 in terms of rights and freedoms.

 

[agent00f]

He's not a liberal. He treats anyone who doesn't fit traditional gender definitions as subhuman; he has a profound contempt for women who assert their rights; he resents attempts by government to grant more rights and freedoms to those groups. Being liberal means you resist attempts to curtail the freedoms of others.

To quote a former Prime Minister from his country: "there’s no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation." So why is he so eager to decide what kind of sexuality is okay?

And for that matter... if he's liberal, why is he such a Trump cheerleader? You know, the guy whose administration is defined by people who would sorely like to turn the clock back to 1950 in terms of rights and freedoms.

Understandable that shitty people without character/integrity want to be treated as equals in return.

 

[Jhhnn]

What USED to be called liberalism doesn't think this way. Liberalism used to be all about freedom of speech and against Big Government ruling their lives. Leftists have continued to drift further over to the left into something else, though... to this authoritarian state where if you don't agree with (and give in to) 'the collective' (which goes by many names but shares the same agendas) then you're branded as 'evil'. "Good" ™ can only exist within their collective, and the collective's rules are adhered to without question on pain of banishment and punishment equal to or worse than that given to unbelievers.

It really should be called by an agreed-on name... "left" is insufficient, as many liberals (like myself) simply don't fit this new "progressive" mold.

You've made it clear that you're an alt-right troll many times over.

 

[agent00f]

You've made it clear that you're an alt-right troll many times over.

He's actually correct "liberal" used to mean different things. That's because liberal is a relative term which implies what's better for the everyman at any given point in time, and at one point not living under a typical despot was more preferable than not. Of course as time went on people figured out even more preferable systems than laissez faire. Those concepts requires some more nuanced mental facilities that's beyond the blue_max sorts, but probably within reach of modern liberals.

 

[uallas5]

Castro was/is like Mugabe...a revolutionary that overthrew an oppressive regime to only then become the oppressor. Is it that they felt they were the best person to continue the ideals of their revolution and therefor could not let go of power? Best intentions gone awry? Proof that absolute power corrupts absolutely? Probably a mix of all that.

 

[agent00f]

Castro was/is like Mugabe...a revolutionary that overthrew an oppressive regime to only then become the oppressor. Is it that they felt they were the best person to continue the ideals of their revolution and therefor could not let go of power? Best intentions gone awry? Proof that absolute power corrupts absolutely? Probably a mix of all that.

Castro like a lot of similar figures did actually do much for the poorest people which consist his revolution, eg their health care system and similar basic needs not exactly meet by his predecessors. Unfortunately they're usually not the ones who get to write/argue history.