Epicness incoming... will post the after picture: [UPDATED with final PICS!]

[Baked]

Back when I eat meat, when it comes time for steak, I get the USDA Prime from Costco. I cook it rare.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I like my steak medium rare myself, but damn I can always expect a steak thread to bring out even dr. pizza into being nothing more but a pretentious idiot. You guys understand you guys giving lots of stupid overly-critical comments look like a bunch of angsty nerds right? Quit acting like whiny bitches.

 

[Anubis]

i just wanna know why he skimped on the asparagus

 

[Jadow]

her friend is gonna throw down on a 20oz porterhouse. must be a big momma

 

[Howard]

Howard - Steak "doness" can be measured visually. I have been grilling steaks for decades so I usually go time and thickness of the cut. I know some higher end steak places do use temperature reading. The end result is the same - medium rare is "red" or "rare" in the center, not pink.

You are trying to argue that medium rare should be pink in the center and trying to use temperature when it is not relevent except for it should be the temperature that results in the visual result as shown by the pictures that are in this thread.

http://culinaryarts.about.com/od/beefporkothermeats/a/Medium-Rare-Steaks.htm

About.com is not the most amazing, but the picture has it right - red in the center, not pink.

Michael

Why does medium rare mean rare in the middle?

 

[Michael]

The name is Medium Rare. The steak is medium cooked (pink) except for the center where it is rare (red).

Is that so hard to understand?

If a steak is pink all the way through (pink in the center) it is medium.

Michael

 

[Howard]

The name is Medium Rare. The steak is medium cooked (pink) except for the center where it is rare (red).

Is that so hard to understand?

If a steak is pink all the way through (pink in the center) it is medium.

Michael

Now I have come to the crux of this affair, though through the long route.

Where did this definition come from?

 

[Michael]

I honestly don't care where the definition came from. I am in China and need to turn a VPN on to do a proper Google search. As I already said, I suspect that the name is a description and that is where the definition comes from.

If you did an image search for medium rare steak, I can guarantee you that almsot all the images will have red centers.

Michael

 

[Howard]

I honestly don't care where the definition came from. I am in China and need to turn a VPN on to do a proper Google search. As I already said, I suspect that the name is a description and that is where the definition comes from.

If you did an image search for medium rare steak, I can guarantee you that almsot all the images will have red centers.

Michael

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

Anyway, I'm finished here. My final opinion is that medium rare having a rare center is bullshit.

 

[zCypher]

Steak doneness - serious business. lol

I like me a good steak, I will eat anything from rare to medium rare. Anything more well done than that just isn't as satisfying. I am a terrible person and a monster.

Edit: very nice pics, btw. Utter failure on the threesome, but your dinner makes me jealous. I had a (fairly decent) store bought meat pie.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

Anyway, I'm finished here. My final opinion is that medium rare having a rare center is bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy

 

[Michael]

Howard - you started off wrong and ended wrong. Congrats.

Michael

 

[Howard]

Howard - you started off wrong and ended wrong. Congrats.

Michael

Cool. And more power to you.

 

[Sluggo]

You guys understand you guys giving lots of stupid overly-critical comments look like a bunch of angsty nerds right?

You saw the .9999= 1 and the plane taking off on a treadmill threads didn't you?

The depth of inane shit people on here will argue endlessly about are limitless.

 

[Wyndru]

She's cute too. I've always joked and even semi-seriously asked if we could have a threesome. I pray to god tonight is the night.

I'm guessing that them seeing you taking pictures of cooked steak to upload to an internet forum greatly reduced the chances of this.

 

[Krazy4Real]

epicness of pics of friend not found.

 

[CVSiN]

I prefer them medium well. No pink.

in other words you prefer beef jerky.

you just killed that steak..

Medium rare or medium at the most is where steaks have their best flavors and tenderness.

 

[CVSiN]

Now I have come to the crux of this affair, though through the long route.

Where did this definition come from?

every steak restaurant since the dawn of time? that is the universal definitions.

 

[Howard]

every steak restaurant since the dawn of time? that is the universal definitions.

I said I was done here but I guess I have to make myself a liar. What expert authority or authorities today would say that that is how medium rare is defined?

 

[crashtestdummy]

Because no one else is, I'm going to side with Howard. The picture for medium rare simply shows a steak that has been unevenly cooked, as if someone were simply cooking a medium steak and stopped short of finishing. The "ideal" (not necessarily practical) is to have a steak that is cooked perfectly evenly except for the surface. Think a sear followed by a sous-vide.

 

[yuchai]

When it comes to defining doneness of steak, I have to say it's what most people think it is that matters, not what it technically should be. After all, the main purpose is for people to communicate to the chef how they want their steak.

I have to agree with Michael that most people would define medium rare as having red at the very center.

 

[Drako]

Still waiting for epicness ...

 

[Howard]

When it comes to defining doneness of steak, I have to say it's what most people think it is that matters, not what it technically should be. After all, the main purpose is for people to communicate to the chef how they want their steak.

I have to agree with Michael that most people would define medium rare as having red at the very center.

If we are going to go with anecdotal evidence, I'd have to honestly say I've only once gotten a medium rare steak with a rare center. Maybe it's different in the US. But, with so many steakhouses now going to sous vide - and let's face it, every steakhouse should be - it doesn't make sense to base doneness on a flawed cooking method rather than a scientific, repeatable method.

And heck, even if low-temp cooking doesn't even come into play, it still makes no sense to me how you can order a medium rare steak and get part of it rare. Does nobody care about salmonella or e. coli anymore? True, pathogens aren't usually inside a cut of meat, but accidental perforations or cuts do occur (bringing in the pathogens from the surface of the meat), and in a rare center you will NOT kill the bacteria.

Because no one else is, I'm going to side with Howard.

Thanks... I think.

 

[Aikouka]

People look at me funny when I order my steaks well done. I think some of them might want to grill me for as punishment for such a travesty!

 

[zinfamous]

30 minutes is way to long to rest imo

yeah, craziness. 5 minutes, tops.

you can rest a big hunk of slow-cooked meat--like a rib roast or pork shoulder for an hour, but a seared medium-rare steak? crazy.