Effigy of Obama hanging in tree at Univ of Ky.

[MikeyLSU]

go kill a white women, then go kill a black man.

I bet both are equally upset, and I bet you get arrested for both.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: cheezy321
Wow, South Park comes to the rescue to explain my EXACT point again.

HATE is HATE is HATE is HATE is HATE.

No matter which way you put it, HATE towards someone else is never a good thing.

You guys are trying to make one form of hate towards someone worse than the other. I am trying to say they are exactly the same. All politics aside, this is the only point I am trying to make.

I agree, hatred is never a good response. However, I believe that, just as there are degrees of love, there are degrees of hate. I love my pets, but I love my friends more, but I love my mother more still... Similarly, there are degrees of hatred. I think the hatred that has a long history behind it is worse than hatred that doesn't. We can't just erase history and say "none of that matters anymore, everything is fair game because we're all equal!" It just doesn't work that way. Ideally it would, but it doesn't. Bigotry persists, regardless of whether we want it to or not; ignoring it solves nothing.

To echo what Buck said, I will offer up an example. If you showed an effigy of Palin being hung to a bunch of white women, most would probably find it distasteful (probably extremely). If you showed an effigy of Obama being hung to a bunch of black men, they'd presumably find it extremely distasteful as well. Which group do you think would be angrier?

 

[moshquerade]

I see. A black man hanging in effigy = hate crime. White woman = just bad taste. Makes perfect sense.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Cabages
Ya, I dont give a shit what you do on your property, but what you do on public or other peoples property should definitely not be this.

So just so I understand you and peyton, if this was done on someone's private property, neither of you would have a problem with it?

 

[cheezy321]

It only represents America's history because in your mind that's what it represents. If it represented America's history, couldn't it have been done as just ANY black man?

However, I look at it as direct HATE towards Obama. Just as I look at the Palin as direct HATE towards her.

Both are equally as appalling.

EDIT: To remove nested quotes

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

Way to throw context completely out the window. How about the oppression of white women in California versus the oppression of black men in Kentucky? Care to tackle that one? How about in regards to the specific act being depicted (hanging by noose); is anyone here going to argue that the numbers of white women lynched in California is remotely comparable to the number of black men lynched in Kentucky?

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

Ni@@er is a noun in the English language, most notable for its usage in a pejorative context to refer to black people, and also as an informal slang term, among other contexts.

The word "bitch" has long been in use to refer to a woman in contempt, as shown in an 1811 dictionary which describes bitch as "the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore."

Do you idiots get the point now? One is referring to black people (plural) and the other is used to refer to a woman (singular).

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
I see. A black man hanging in effigy = hate crime. White woman = just bad taste. Makes perfect sense.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Cabages
Ya, I dont give a shit what you do on your property, but what you do on public or other peoples property should definitely not be this.

So just so I understand you and peyton, if this was done on someone's private property, neither of you would have a problem with it?

I'll field that one. I would have a problem with it, but I would support the first amendment rights of the individual to display it; this is exactly how I feel about the Palin display.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

Ni@@er is a noun in the English language, most notable for its usage in a pejorative context to refer to black people, and also as an informal slang term, among other contexts.

The word "bitch" has long been in use to refer to a woman in contempt, as shown in an 1811 dictionary which describes bitch as "the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore."

Do you idiots get the point now? One is referring to black people (plural) and the other is used to refer to a woman (singular).

So you cant use the "N" word to refer to one particular person? Where are you going with this lol?

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

"Should"? Thats a matter of opinion i guess.
"Would"... is what I was getting at.

Lol, fair enough.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: cheezy321
Wow, South Park comes to the rescue to explain my EXACT point again.

HATE is HATE is HATE is HATE is HATE.

No matter which way you put it, HATE towards someone else is never a good thing.

You guys are trying to make one form of hate towards someone worse than the other. I am trying to say they are exactly the same. All politics aside, this is the only point I am trying to make.

I agree, hatred is never a good response. However, I believe that, just as there are degrees of love, there are degrees of hate. I love my pets, but I love my friends more, but I love my mother more still... Similarly, there are degrees of hatred. I think the hatred that has a long history behind it is worse than hatred that doesn't. We can't just erase history and say "none of that matters anymore, everything is fair game because we're all equal!" It just doesn't work that way. Ideally it would, but it doesn't. Bigotry persists, regardless of whether we want it to or not; ignoring it solves nothing.

To echo what Buck said, I will offer up an example. If you showed an effigy of Palin being hung to a bunch of white women, most would probably find it distasteful (probably extremely). If you showed an effigy of Obama being hung to a bunch of black men, they'd presumably find it extremely distasteful as well. Which group do you think would be angrier?

So we should base social norms, levels of distastefulness, morals, etc. on how the largest group feels it to be so?

I'm sorry, that just dosen't appeal to my logical nature and certainly opens up a can of worms when it comes to applying rules equally to everybody.

 

[mugs]

Yeah this really belongs in P&N...

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

Ni@@er is a noun in the English language, most notable for its usage in a pejorative context to refer to black people, and also as an informal slang term, among other contexts.

The word "bitch" has long been in use to refer to a woman in contempt, as shown in an 1811 dictionary which describes bitch as "the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore."

Do you idiots get the point now? One is referring to black people (plural) and the other is used to refer to a woman (singular).

So you cant use the "N" word to refer to one particular person? Where are you going with this lol?

....
Have you ever called someone who was AA a ni@@er? Ever called someone a bitch?
You are implying the both words are equally bad and you are wrong. You can play stupid all day but it doesn't change the fact that an effigy of a black man in KY is worse than one of a white woman in CA. Both are in poor taste and should be removed but one is MUCH worse due to the way AA were treated not that long ago in states such as KY.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: mugs
Yeah this really belongs in P&N...

:thumbsup:

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

Ni@@er is a noun in the English language, most notable for its usage in a pejorative context to refer to black people, and also as an informal slang term, among other contexts.

The word "bitch" has long been in use to refer to a woman in contempt, as shown in an 1811 dictionary which describes bitch as "the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore."

Do you idiots get the point now? One is referring to black people (plural) and the other is used to refer to a woman (singular).

replace bitch with wise and beautiful woman. then i'd say it's equivalent.


idiots should have hung biden.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

Ni@@er is a noun in the English language, most notable for its usage in a pejorative context to refer to black people, and also as an informal slang term, among other contexts.

The word "bitch" has long been in use to refer to a woman in contempt, as shown in an 1811 dictionary which describes bitch as "the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore."

Do you idiots get the point now? One is referring to black people (plural) and the other is used to refer to a woman (singular).

So you cant use the "N" word to refer to one particular person? Where are you going with this lol?

....
Have you ever called someone who was AA a ni@@er? Ever called someone a bitch?
You are implying the both words are equally bad and you are wrong. You can play stupid all day but it doesn't change the fact that an effigy of a black man in KY is worse than one of a white woman in CA. Both are in poor taste and should be removed but one is MUCH worse due to the way AA were treated not that long ago in states such as KY.

My family migrated to the US after slavery. You will not find any white man's guilt here. I see ALL derogatory speech/jokes/ideas as equal.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

Ni@@er is a noun in the English language, most notable for its usage in a pejorative context to refer to black people, and also as an informal slang term, among other contexts.

The word "bitch" has long been in use to refer to a woman in contempt, as shown in an 1811 dictionary which describes bitch as "the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore."

Do you idiots get the point now? One is referring to black people (plural) and the other is used to refer to a woman (singular).

So you cant use the "N" word to refer to one particular person? Where are you going with this lol?

....
Have you ever called someone who was AA a ni@@er? Ever called someone a bitch?
You are implying the both words are equally bad and you are wrong. You can play stupid all day but it doesn't change the fact that an effigy of a black man in KY is worse than one of a white woman in CA. Both are in poor taste and should be removed but one is MUCH worse due to the way AA were treated not that long ago in states such as KY.

My family migrated to the US after slavery. You will not find any white man's guilt here. I see ALL derogatory speech/jokes/ideas as equal.

Welcome to our country, please answer the first two questions.

 

[jpeyton]

Isn't there already a thread on the Palin effigy?

Look at the flood of GOP crocodile tears in this thread :laugh:

It'll make me savor Nov. 5th even more.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

Ni@@er is a noun in the English language, most notable for its usage in a pejorative context to refer to black people, and also as an informal slang term, among other contexts.

The word "bitch" has long been in use to refer to a woman in contempt, as shown in an 1811 dictionary which describes bitch as "the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore."

Do you idiots get the point now? One is referring to black people (plural) and the other is used to refer to a woman (singular).

So you cant use the "N" word to refer to one particular person? Where are you going with this lol?

....
Have you ever called someone who was AA a ni@@er? Ever called someone a bitch?
You are implying the both words are equally bad and you are wrong. You can play stupid all day but it doesn't change the fact that an effigy of a black man in KY is worse than one of a white woman in CA. Both are in poor taste and should be removed but one is MUCH worse due to the way AA were treated not that long ago in states such as KY.

My family migrated to the US after slavery. You will not find any white man's guilt here. I see ALL derogatory speech/jokes/ideas as equal.

Welcome to our country, please answer the first two questions.

Have YOU ever called your fellow AA a ni@@er? I mean shit, the most racist people I've experienced growing up in LA were blacks. White kids were too scared to be bigots, but blacks appeared to have a golden ticket to go turrets on crackers and chinks. Made no sense to me.

 

[Kirby]

Was anything illegal done? Or are we arguing about which one is more tasteless?

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: gar3555
So...is it only wrong when it's Obama?

Effigy of Palin...not removed.

that girl at the end is fucking hilarious.

 

[0roo0roo]

some kid getting massive attention for his stunt.

i'm sure he just played everyone

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: buck
Go outside, call a woman a bitch and then go call a black person a ni@@er.

Report back as to which one is worse.

How does that make it right?

Both are wrong, who said either was ok?

So a person who calls a black guy a ni@@er should get more of an ass whooping than a person who calls a woman a bitch?

Yes, because everyone knows that black people have been oppressed 1000X more throughout history than women.

Spousal rape and rape in general by conquering tribes/nations, arranged marriages, polygamy, fundamental Islam, witch-trials, fighting for suffrage. These are nothing compared to the plight of everyone else.

Ni@@er is a noun in the English language, most notable for its usage in a pejorative context to refer to black people, and also as an informal slang term, among other contexts.

The word "bitch" has long been in use to refer to a woman in contempt, as shown in an 1811 dictionary which describes bitch as "the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore."

Do you idiots get the point now? One is referring to black people (plural) and the other is used to refer to a woman (singular).

So you cant use the "N" word to refer to one particular person? Where are you going with this lol?

....
Have you ever called someone who was AA a ni@@er? Ever called someone a bitch?
You are implying the both words are equally bad and you are wrong. You can play stupid all day but it doesn't change the fact that an effigy of a black man in KY is worse than one of a white woman in CA. Both are in poor taste and should be removed but one is MUCH worse due to the way AA were treated not that long ago in states such as KY.

My family migrated to the US after slavery. You will not find any white man's guilt here. I see ALL derogatory speech/jokes/ideas as equal.

Welcome to our country, please answer the first two questions.

Have YOU ever called your fellow AA a ni@@er? I mean shit, the most racist people I've experienced growing up in LA were blacks. White kids were too scared to be bigots, but blacks appeared to have a golden ticket to go turrets on crackers and chinks. Made no sense to me.

I have never ever called an AA a ni@@er.