Edge is now the best browser!

[AMDisTheBEST]

WTH are you talking about? Chrome has the most marketshare.

only if you exclude desktop and factor in android devices. Otherwise no, IE has the biggest chunk.

http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpe...s/2015/05/firefox_market_share_april_2015.png

 

[mikeymikec]

Others may be faster in browser tests but in real world usage I don't really notice the difference at all.

+1

The only differences I've consistently spotted is that:

a) with IE I've always found it irritating when it starts and the UI takes a few seconds to become usable (depending on the website that is loading), it's also possible to render the menu unusable by trying to use it while a website loads.

b) With Firefox, if I loaded a 36 tab job, the UI would freeze for short periods of time as Firefox's lack of threadyness caught up with it. It's one of the reasons why I switched to Chrome, which plows through the job without freezing and a good deal quicker.

only if you exclude desktop and factor in android devices. Otherwise no, IE has the biggest chunk.

http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpe...s/2015/05/firefox_market_share_april_2015.png

Both are desktop browser stats:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-browser-ww-monthly-200807-201607

https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0

 

[imaheadcase]

If you put Edge on the back burner or in the trash and forgot about it, I highly suggest looking at it again after you update to Redstone.

They made some really nice improvements, the greatest obviously being the extensions. I'm LOVING the translator! It's really awesome, and it works very seamlessly with Edge. Performance has improved as well, along with stability.

Also, Edge now has hardware acceleration for VP9, something which Chrome doesn't have yet. So if you have a Pascal GPU or RX480, you can watch VP9 encoded 4K footage without it hammering your CPU..

Yah a whole %8 is hammering my CPU.
Not only that, but translate works with Chrome just great.

Literally nothing worth switching over for.

 

[imaheadcase]

only if you exclude desktop and factor in android devices. Otherwise no, IE has the biggest chunk.

http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpe...s/2015/05/firefox_market_share_april_2015.png

Because its default installed on every business PC.

 

[Maximilian]

I used edge when I first installed windows 10 and it performed fantastically!

I used it to navigate to https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html where I downloaded chrome.

This is all I need from any built in MS browser

 

[TeknoBug]

Yeah the method of extension addons for Edge is a bit weird (and it's in the programs & features list once installed, not going to be switching to Edge anytime soon anyways- I only use Edge for Netflix on my HTPC. Otherwise pretty happy with Vivaldi.

 

[nerp]

Chrome used to be good. So bloated and slow now, though. Edge is superior now.

 

[TheRyuu]

Also, Edge now has hardware acceleration for VP9, something which Chrome doesn't have yet. So if you have a Pascal GPU or RX480, you can watch VP9 encoded 4K footage without it hammering your CPU..

Chrome has added support for hardware accelerated VP9 (now in the dev channel) if you have one of the few cards that support it. If you look at chrome://gpu you can see support for it and whether or not it's using hardware acceleration.

that's annoying, they require you to use your microsoft account to download a browser extension and it's tied to the windows store.. nope, I'll continue to use other browsers that don't require this.

You can enable developer mode for extensions which allow you to load unpacked extensions the same way you can do so in Chrome. The setting is on the about:config page. There may be security side effects of doing this but you should be ok so long as you don't install malicious extensions.

You're still limited on what extensions work. While Microsoft has done a good job provided a faithful recreation of the WebExtensions API that Chrome (and other) browsers use it still requires some very slight changes for compatibility. There is already a version of uBlock Origin for Edge in the works although it's not complete yet. I think we should see HTTPS Everywhere at some point as well.

 

[arjun231]

Firefox utilizes more memory of the computer, and battery drains quickly that's why I shifted to Google Chrome Browser 64 Bit

 

[JimmiG]

I use Edge exclusively on my Atom-powered tablet/2in1 with 2 GB RAM. It's much more touch friendly (smooth zooming and scrolling) and seems to use less memory and perform better on a low-end system. I can even have 4-5 tabs open without noticeable slowdowns.

On my desktop system and work laptop, I use Vivaldi. I don't like the minimalist UI of Edge on a bigger screen. My laptop has a Quad-core CPU and 8GB RAM, the desktop Quad-core and 16 GB, so it doesn't really matter which browser is the fastest.

 

[Carfax83]

performance has always been 2nd to utility, options and customizability for me.
Can you set tabs on bottom or change where the close tab button is? Seems silly until you are opening and closing enough tabs in quick succession that it really slows you down. But what's really silly is having no option to choose at all.

OK I can understand performance not being a priority, but what about security and stability? FF has been less secure and less stable than Chrome (and probably even IE) over the years because they didn't have the multi-process architecture and no sandboxing.

Firefox is still the least secure major web browser.

Granted things have changed now, but the point is FF didn't possess these crucial attributes unlike their competitors, and this was the status quo for years. That to me is completely unacceptable and a deal breaker.

 

[coffeemonster]

OK I can understand performance not being a priority, but what about security and stability? FF has been less secure and less stable than Chrome (and probably even IE) over the years because they didn't have the multi-process architecture and no sandboxing.

Firefox is still the least secure major web browser.

Granted things have changed now, but the point is FF didn't possess these crucial attributes unlike their competitors, and this was the status quo for years. That to me is completely unacceptable and a deal breaker.

I've been using mozilla/firefox since it's inception, and I've been using adblockers and no-script for as long as they've been available. I've never spent much time fretting over some hacker targeting my machine directly, and I've never been infected with anything scarier than ad generators. I'll keep using the more user friendly browser for the small extra risk it entails.

Stability has not been a serious enough issue with firefox. Firefox maybe crashes once a week for me, and it recovers in a matter of seconds. The difference is meaningless. The only area that FF has been noticeably less stable is streaming youtube and twitch. But I use VLC for that now anyway.

The bottom line is there are too many features present in FF only that are a deal breaker for every other browser. I have no allegiance to any of them, and I'm always looking for new ones to match FF's versatility. I have high hopes for Vivaldi.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Edge needs an interface just like IE. Give me a menu up top with drop down bookmarks that I can edit on the fly without having to open up some ludicrous amount of steps to get to.

 

[nerp]

Edge needs an interface just like IE. Give me a menu up top with drop down bookmarks that I can edit on the fly without having to open up some ludicrous amount of steps to get to.

I agree: the bookmarks system is lacking. I want an easy way to clean up and sort bookmarks. Right now it's so damn clunky.

 

[TheRyuu]

The BIG benifit of Edge comes on mobile. It's just a lot better for battery usage on a laptop or what have you. That's where it shines IMO.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Chrome is atrocious for mobile, it's a terrible battery hog. I do use it on the desktop though, partially because I'm used to it as I've been using it since it was released 9-10 years ago. If I had a windows laptop I would definitely use Edge.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I think that MS is purposely trying to force us off IE and onto edge based upon the number of crashes and freezes I've been having over the last year with it. Half the time new tabs don't work when I launch them and I have to close and reopen them up. Pages that IE stutters on FF will load quickly. Come on MS patch up edge and allow users to choose between the classic IE interface and your uber stupid modern interface.

 

[mikeymikec]

I think that MS is purposely trying to force us off IE and onto edge based upon the number of crashes and freezes I've been having over the last year with it.

Given the ease with which virtually any user can switch to any browser (including third party browsers that happen to have a far superior reputation to Edge), IMO this would be an incredibly stupid strategy for MS.

I have little doubt that IE has reached the end of its evolution however; any inefficiencies in its design are likely to remain.

IMO you should clear out IE's cache and do a full IE reset and give it another try. I haven't seen anything that suggests that it has suddenly become an unstable browser.

 

[fleshconsumed]

I can't believe that FF is this popular. The browser comparisons I've seen usually tout FF as the slowest browser. Heck, they just recently added multi processes, a feature that Microsoft and Google have had in their browsers for years

My primary browser is FF because it offers the best set of security/privacy/usability extensions, namely:
- AdBlockPlus
- NoScript
- FlashBlock
- FireGestures

 

[TheRyuu]

- AdBlockPlus
- NoScript

You can replace both of these with uBlock Origin[1]. Dynamic filtering[2] in uBlock replaces NoScript. If you like the granulatiry of NoScript you can also try uMatrix[3] (instead of dynamic filtering in uBlock). I believe uMatrix has a much more intuitive interface than NoScript but to each his own.

- FlashBlock

What does FlashBlock do that the browser currently doesn't do when setting a plugin as "Ask to activate"?

[1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#installation
[2] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode
[3] https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix#umatrix

 

[Carfax83]

Edge needs an interface just like IE. Give me a menu up top with drop down bookmarks that I can edit on the fly without having to open up some ludicrous amount of steps to get to.

Edge already has that feature. You can directly access your bookmarks by clicking on the hub icon at the top right in one step, or you can drag them to the area below the address bar.

You can also easily edit them by right clicking..

 

[Puffnstuff]

Edge will not import my bookmarks from IE correctly and constantly drops many of them during the import process. Edge does not allow me to change the properties of the bookmark like IE does. Edge has a dufus tablet/ touch screen based interface and is useless on a desktop without the proper mouse oriented interfaces. All this is doing is forcing me off to FF so I can browse with minimal retardedness. At least FF syncs all of my data to the cloud just in case something should go wrong so I can get it back instantly as does chrome.

 

[sweenish]

Edge syncs your stuff as well. Do you also complain about extra features that FF and Chrome bundle like FF Hello and Chrome's attempt at shoving Chrome OS into a browser?

FF is less secure, and no amount of extensions will fix a fundamentally flawed browser in that regard. I haven't tried bookmark importing, so I can't speak to that. But with the anniversary update, Edge is definitely worth consideration. It is a fast, compliant browser. So, from my experience, you might have one valid complaint, not the list you attempted. All browsers are imperfect. I've started using Edge now that I can block ads, and it's pretty great.

 

[paperfist]

OK I can understand performance not being a priority, but what about security and stability? FF has been less secure and less stable than Chrome (and probably even IE) over the years because they didn't have the multi-process architecture and no sandboxing.

Firefox is still the least secure major web browser.

Granted things have changed now, but the point is FF didn't possess these crucial attributes unlike their competitors, and this was the status quo for years. That to me is completely unacceptable and a deal breaker.

So which one is the best balance between speed and security?

 

[MongGrel]

Still use FF myself, have played with Edge a bit in the past.

Might try it out again with Redstone rolling out.