Dumb waitress last night

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Crusty
Love how the moral police came running with pitchforks and torches when I'm willing to bet most of them have done something similar to you in the past.

If the waitress is too stupid to figure out how much you owe it's her own damn fault. I might have said something to the manager when I walked out about the crappy service and how the waitress needs to be trained on how to properly run the tickets.

can't say I ever have, at least not knowingly.

if I knew that I wasn't charged enough, I would have brought it to their attention (assuming that 1, the waitress would have been fired or had it docked from her pay, or 2, that they'd have my CC and would just charge me for the missing amount later)

It shouldn't be based on if you think the waitress gets screwed or you think they'd hit your CC later, it should be because you'd be STEALING.

I have gotten too much change at a register and the wrong amount at the bank, I let them know about this. A mistake by an employee doesn't permit stealing is ok.

Exactly. If you know you weren't charged the right amount, then (IMO) you should bring it to someone's attention, pay the correct amount, and be on your way.

I remember once after getting a new tire (~$200) and oil change (~$30) on my motorcycle, the employee at the register charged me for the former and completely forgot about the latter. I had handed him my card before hearing the total, so I didn't notice until after leaving the store; turned back around, went in, pointed out the mistake, and paid them the extra $200 I owed them.

Was I more likely to get "caught" in this situation given the large discrepancy? Probably, but I've done the same thing when getting an extra $5 change from a cashier as well. It's just the right thing to do.

 

[Sealy]

If you don't like the service, you ask to speak to the manager and complain, then you let the manager decide on a discount or whatnot, but it's not okay to steal food simply because the service was bad.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

While I pretty much 100% agree with you, try that logic with a bank

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: GrumpyMan
I was eating at Denny's a couple of weeks ago and the waiter who was a little slow mentally was kind of slow service wise but not too bad. Anyway the bill was about $13.50 or something like that and I gave him a $20.00. He brought me back change for a $100.00. Needless to say I called him over an pointed out the mistake. Boy was he grateful to me and he got real emotional saying that he would of gotten fired and all.
I wouldn't knowingly screw someone around these days, but that's just me. I can't really judge you on your actions, because in my younger days I might have taken the money and run. But not now.

:Q I wonder if another customer paid with a $100 and he got them mixed up?

Just the other day I was getting fast food, and the total came to $10.13. I gave the cashier a $20, then immediately said "hold on I have change" before she entered anything into the register. I gave her a quarter, and I guess that confused her because she gave me $12.12 back. I gave her the extra $2. She didn't seem very grateful that I corrected her mistake, but then she's usually not too friendly.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

The OP mentioned that he KNEW the total was $185, but that they were charged a different amount (which he also knew) instead. Therefore, he left while knowing that he wasn't paying the full amount.

And yes, if you KNOW that you were given the wrong amount of change, then you are wrong for not returning the extra amount.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

What if you hand them a 20 for a ten dollar item and think you handed them a 10. They should just keep the change?

If tasmanian handed me an extra $10, I would definitely keep it.

I wonder if he's really from New Zealand? Aren't there a couple people from there with his attitude? I believe Interpol is looking for them.

 

[tasmanian]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

What if you hand them a 20 for a ten dollar item and think you handed them a 10. They should just keep the change?

Timewarps ftl.

No it would then fall upon me to correct their error. Yes I see what you are getting at, but at the end of the day it is my job to make sure I am not swindled out of any money. The same is for them.

 

[tasmanian]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

What if you hand them a 20 for a ten dollar item and think you handed them a 10. They should just keep the change?

If tasmanian handed me an extra $10, I would definitely keep it.

I wonder if he's really from New Zealand? Aren't there a couple people from there with his attitude? I believe Interpol is looking for them.

I don't live in New Zealand, or Australia. With a little bit of digging up you can find where I live.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

What if you hand them a 20 for a ten dollar item and think you handed them a 10. They should just keep the change?

If tasmanian handed me an extra $10, I would definitely keep it.

I wonder if he's really from New Zealand? Aren't there a couple people from there with his attitude? I believe Interpol is looking for them.

I don't live in New Zealand, or Australia. With a little bit of digging up you can find where I live.

So Ingerpol should stop looking for these people since it's the bank's fault?

 

[puffff]

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

The OP mentioned that he KNEW the total was $185, but that they were charged a different amount (which he also knew) instead. Therefore, he left while knowing that he wasn't paying the full amount.

And yes, if you KNOW that you were given the wrong amount of change, then you are wrong for not returning the extra amount.

Right or wrong aside for a minute, I'm actually surprised at how one-sided the responses have been. I did a bit of searching online on the subject thinking someone must've done a study on this before, and found this:

"When you get a restaurant bill that doesn?t include a drink that you?d ordered, do you tell the waitress to revise the bill upward? If you do, you?re in the minority. According to Todd Giatrelis at restaurant consultants The Gates Group, fewer than 5% of customers correct a bill where there?s an error in their favor. Instead, they pay the smaller bill and the restaurant takes the loss."

 

[MikeyLSU]

you said you got the bill for 185, but she charged teh card incorrectly. So they billed you correctly and you just didn't pay the full amount.

Also, between 5 of you, that is $6 per person. I just don't get some people, is it worth $6 to steal for a waitress knowingly? Hell, if $6 is that important to you, you need to stop going out.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: puffff

"When you get a restaurant bill that doesn?t include a drink that you?d ordered, do you tell the waitress to revise the bill upward? If you do, you?re in the minority. According to Todd Giatrelis at restaurant consultants The Gates Group, fewer than 5% of customers correct a bill where there?s an error in their favor. Instead, they pay the smaller bill and the restaurant takes the loss."

Wow, people suck worse than I thought. And that's saying something.

 

[Red Dawn]

What i want to know is what's the difference between New England Steamers and regular Steamers?

 

[Bill Brasky]

I doubt that was an accident.. should have left a bigger tip.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

The OP mentioned that he KNEW the total was $185, but that they were charged a different amount (which he also knew) instead. Therefore, he left while knowing that he wasn't paying the full amount.

And yes, if you KNOW that you were given the wrong amount of change, then you are wrong for not returning the extra amount.

Right or wrong aside for a minute, I'm actually surprised at how one-sided the responses have been. I did a bit of searching online on the subject thinking someone must've done a study on this before, and found this:

"When you get a restaurant bill that doesn?t include a drink that you?d ordered, do you tell the waitress to revise the bill upward? If you do, you?re in the minority. According to Todd Giatrelis at restaurant consultants The Gates Group, fewer than 5% of customers correct a bill where there?s an error in their favor. Instead, they pay the smaller bill and the restaurant takes the loss."

Once again you are trying to justify why you stole from a restaurant and did not leave a tip (*your choice to tip or not). Didn't you say that you were going to call them and correct this mistake?

 

[puffff]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

The OP mentioned that he KNEW the total was $185, but that they were charged a different amount (which he also knew) instead. Therefore, he left while knowing that he wasn't paying the full amount.

And yes, if you KNOW that you were given the wrong amount of change, then you are wrong for not returning the extra amount.

Right or wrong aside for a minute, I'm actually surprised at how one-sided the responses have been. I did a bit of searching online on the subject thinking someone must've done a study on this before, and found this:

"When you get a restaurant bill that doesn?t include a drink that you?d ordered, do you tell the waitress to revise the bill upward? If you do, you?re in the minority. According to Todd Giatrelis at restaurant consultants The Gates Group, fewer than 5% of customers correct a bill where there?s an error in their favor. Instead, they pay the smaller bill and the restaurant takes the loss."

Once again you are trying to justify why you stole from a restaurant and did not leave a tip (*your choice to tip or not). Didn't you say that you were going to call them and correct this mistake?

I'm simply bringing up a relevant study for this discussion. I thought it might be of interest to some people. I tried wording my post as neutrally as possible to avoid it being interpreted as "justification." Maybe I didn't do that effectively. How would you suggest I word it?

As for what I'll do about the situation, would you like me to keep you updated? I can tell you it won't happen until after the transaction moves past pending on my statement.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: puffff
Right or wrong aside for a minute, I'm actually surprised at how one-sided the responses have been. I did a bit of searching online on the subject thinking someone must've done a study on this before, and found this:

"When you get a restaurant bill that doesn?t include a drink that you?d ordered, do you tell the waitress to revise the bill upward? If you do, you?re in the minority. According to Todd Giatrelis at restaurant consultants The Gates Group, fewer than 5% of customers correct a bill where there?s an error in their favor. Instead, they pay the smaller bill and the restaurant takes the loss."

not a good example since you got the right bill

 

[Sealy]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What i want to know is what's the difference between New England Steamers and regular Steamers?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: Sealy

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What i want to know is what's the difference between New England Steamers and regular Steamers?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that

New england steamers are a bit runnier.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: JS80
What the probability we get an update where the restaurant added to the CC slip to come up to $185 + 20% tip?

Kinda what I was thinking.

I don't think the OP was in the wrong, and I think there is way too much self righteousness in this thread. The waitress swore and provided lousy service, which probably ruined what was supposed to be a very nice dining experience. She's on her own, and so is the joint that hired her. She's her responsibility and their responsibility; not mine.

I've worked as a busboy, dishwasher, cook, and waiter. You get out of that biz what you put into it. If she's going to half-ass her job, people are going to half-ass her right back. My wife and I are good tippers (20% - 25%), since we've both been on the "other side". But swearing, being careless with the bill, and pulling disappearing act will wipe out any sympathy - and your tip - faster than you say "omgz you thiefs!"

 

[nobody554]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: puffff
Right or wrong aside for a minute, I'm actually surprised at how one-sided the responses have been. I did a bit of searching online on the subject thinking someone must've done a study on this before, and found this:

"When you get a restaurant bill that doesn?t include a drink that you?d ordered, do you tell the waitress to revise the bill upward? If you do, you?re in the minority. According to Todd Giatrelis at restaurant consultants The Gates Group, fewer than 5% of customers correct a bill where there?s an error in their favor. Instead, they pay the smaller bill and the restaurant takes the loss."

not a good example since you got the right bill

This. That study also doesn't tell you if people notice the fallacy in their bill or not. It just says that fewer in 5% do and act on it.

Your situation. You got the correct bill, but you did not pay it. Different scenario, different results.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

The OP mentioned that he KNEW the total was $185, but that they were charged a different amount (which he also knew) instead. Therefore, he left while knowing that he wasn't paying the full amount.

And yes, if you KNOW that you were given the wrong amount of change, then you are wrong for not returning the extra amount.

Right or wrong aside for a minute, I'm actually surprised at how one-sided the responses have been. I did a bit of searching online on the subject thinking someone must've done a study on this before, and found this:

"When you get a restaurant bill that doesn?t include a drink that you?d ordered, do you tell the waitress to revise the bill upward? If you do, you?re in the minority. According to Todd Giatrelis at restaurant consultants The Gates Group, fewer than 5% of customers correct a bill where there?s an error in their favor. Instead, they pay the smaller bill and the restaurant takes the loss."

Once again you are trying to justify why you stole from a restaurant and did not leave a tip (*your choice to tip or not). Didn't you say that you were going to call them and correct this mistake?

I'm simply bringing up a relevant study for this discussion. I thought it might be of interest to some people. I tried wording my post as neutrally as possible to avoid it being interpreted as "justification." Maybe I didn't do that effectively. How would you suggest I word it?

As for what I'll do about the situation, would you like me to keep you updated? I can tell you it won't happen until after the transaction moves past pending on my statement.

You gave a new waitress two credit cards for a bill that was correct (thats what you said). She could have easily misinterpreted what you wanted... So that study doesn't have anything to do with your situation. You skipped out on your bill, end of story. Whether you actually do something about it or not, you and your idiot friends had no problem with this at dinner. You idiots are scum in my book, hopefully you have a change of heart and try to fix what you can.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Quintox
I would have said the price is wrong

bitch

 

[Bill Brasky]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

The OP mentioned that he KNEW the total was $185, but that they were charged a different amount (which he also knew) instead. Therefore, he left while knowing that he wasn't paying the full amount.

And yes, if you KNOW that you were given the wrong amount of change, then you are wrong for not returning the extra amount.

Right or wrong aside for a minute, I'm actually surprised at how one-sided the responses have been. I did a bit of searching online on the subject thinking someone must've done a study on this before, and found this:

"When you get a restaurant bill that doesn?t include a drink that you?d ordered, do you tell the waitress to revise the bill upward? If you do, you?re in the minority. According to Todd Giatrelis at restaurant consultants The Gates Group, fewer than 5% of customers correct a bill where there?s an error in their favor. Instead, they pay the smaller bill and the restaurant takes the loss."

Once again you are trying to justify why you stole from a restaurant and did not leave a tip (*your choice to tip or not). Didn't you say that you were going to call them and correct this mistake?

I'm simply bringing up a relevant study for this discussion. I thought it might be of interest to some people. I tried wording my post as neutrally as possible to avoid it being interpreted as "justification." Maybe I didn't do that effectively. How would you suggest I word it?

As for what I'll do about the situation, would you like me to keep you updated? I can tell you it won't happen until after the transaction moves past pending on my statement.

You gave a new waitress two credit cards for a bill that was correct (thats what you said). She could have easily misinterpreted what you wanted... So that study doesn't have anything to do with your situation. You skipped out on your bill, end of story. Whether you actually do something about it or not, you and your idiot friends had no problem with this at dinner. You idiots are scum in my book, hopefully you have a change of heart and try to fix what you can.

The possibility that the waitress might have misinterpreted his instructions means the study doesn't apply? The study quite obviously directly applies to his situation.

She swiped his card for x amout. He signed and tipped based on x amount. It's not his fault or his problem that x was not correct.

edited. Was too confrontational.

 

[sswingle]

Anyone thing the original bill may have been $155 + an automatically added 20% tip because they had a party of 5, which would bring the total to $186. Then when she rang it out, the automatically added tip didn't get charged? This has happened to me a few times at different places for some reason.