Dumb waitress last night

[buck]

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: A Casual Fitz
Great call my man. Fuck tipping, restaurant owners should be forced to pay waitresses a decent salary.

What about the money he stole before not leaving a tip?

Technically, he didnt steal. She presented him with a bill for the food which he paid in full.

I've been comp'd many times at restaurants for crappy service, slow delivery of food, etc. For all we know, she did this on his bill.

I'm afraid not. He knew the bill was $185 according the prices listed for the items he and his party ordered. He knew that the bill presented was not $185, but $155 - he admitted this to us in his OP. He did not ask for clarification of the bill that he knew to be incorrect - because he was not told that there was a discount for the poor service he had no reason to suspect a discount had been provided. Hence, he knowing paid $30 less than he knew he was obligated to pay and that's stealing. Period.

:thumbsup:

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Crusty
Love how the moral police came running with pitchforks and torches when I'm willing to bet most of them have done something similar to you in the past.

If the waitress is too stupid to figure out how much you owe it's her own damn fault. I might have said something to the manager when I walked out about the crappy service and how the waitress needs to be trained on how to properly run the tickets.

can't say I ever have, at least not knowingly.

if I knew that I wasn't charged enough, I would have brought it to their attention (assuming that 1, the waitress would have been fired or had it docked from her pay, or 2, that they'd have my CC and would just charge me for the missing amount later)

It shouldn't be based on if you think the waitress gets screwed or you think they'd hit your CC later, it should be because you'd be STEALING.

I have gotten too much change at a register and the wrong amount at the bank, I let them know about this. A mistake by an employee doesn't permit stealing is ok.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: A Casual Fitz
Great call my man. Fuck tipping, restaurant owners should be forced to pay waitresses a decent salary.

What about the money he stole before not leaving a tip?

Technically, he didnt steal. She presented him with a bill for the food which he paid in full.

I've been comp'd many times at restaurants for crappy service, slow delivery of food, etc. For all we know, she did this on his bill.

No, she gave him a bill for $185. Your credit card slip is not a bill.

 

[compman25]

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: puffff
What would you guys have done?

I wouldn't have stolen $30 worth of food.

You should call the place today and let them know you made an error on the bill and pay the remaining $30.

This. Was it busy? Sometimes people fuck up, and yes, sometimes it's inconvenient for you. Shorting her/the restaurant 30 bucks is hardly the solution. At absolute worst, don't tip her, but stealing on top of it? Way to go.

Well, 15% tip on $155 comes out to about $180, which is what we left. If anything, we shorted them $5. Similarly, I think a lot of us wouldn't have a problem taking advantage of a pricing mistake at a store if were in our favor. Isn't it like the same thing?



I wouldn't say the restaurant was busy. Roughly half the tables were occupied when we were there. Would there be any level of service where you feel differently? In addition to the gaffes I mentioned in my OP, she also messed up several other times, like clearing our plates too early, and had a very unprofessional attitude. For example, like when we asked the difference between steamers and steamed clams, her response was "I have no fucking clue" and proceeded to give us an answer that was completely off base. (Steamers are not oysters as she claimed.) At least say you don't know and you'll find out for us, right?

Even after you justify it you still are stealing $5. Way to go.

Do you walk on water?

 

[haffey]

I would have taken the difference. Their loss, their lesson.

 

[racolvin]

Originally posted by: MrChad
I probably would have pointed out the error, received a corrected bill, then deducted a bit from the tip for the inconvenience.

this +1

 

[fleshconsumed]

Should have paid bill in full and didn't tip her anything.

 

[tasmanian]

She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

 

[oiprocs]

Originally posted by: krylon

Originally posted by: buck
Shitty service or not, you stole, way to go asshole.

 

[Beev]

I'm sure most of you righteous fucks in this thread have never pirated ANYTHING in your life?

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

IMO if the waitress can't correctly calculate the bill, that's her problem. The customer shouldn't have to make sure s/he is paying the right amount at all - the only calculation the customer should have to do is adding a tip.

 

[hurricanedh34]

Originally posted by: puffff

5 of us rang up a bill of $185. One of the girls had gotten a little short in cash, so we requested $30 to be charged on her debit card, and to put the rest on my credit card.

If 5 of you ring up a $185 bill then I'm pretty sure you have the money to correct the difference and not take an advantage of her mistake. It would have only been $5 more after you left the tip anyways and that way you know you did nothing wrong.

 

[JS80]

What the probability we get an update where the restaurant added to the CC slip to come up to $185 + 20% tip?

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

Negative, Ghostrider.

In all, we still paid less than the $185 we actually owed

It's not his responsibility to check the bill, but if he happens to notice it's in error then the non-douchey thing to do would to bring it to the restaurant's attention. At that point the poor service could also be brought up. Stealing food from the restaurant owner because of perceived lousy service from a waitress is an amazingly jerk move.

:thumbsdown:

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: silverpig
I'd have left $200.

This. I'm really too lazy/bad at math to be arsed to figure out tips based on percentages. On top of that, I really don't consider service at an expensive place to be worth more than service at denny's so I try to tip all servers about the same.. 5-10 bucks. Yes, you bringing me food is worth about 5-10 bucks. less if you fuck it up a bunch, more if you do a wonderful job or something.

 

[mxyzptlk]

oh yea, is a steamer some kind of scat fetish? I'd have thrown you the fuck out of my restaurant for asking for that shit (pun intended).

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
IMO if the waitress can't correctly calculate the bill, that's her problem. The customer shouldn't have to make sure s/he is paying the right amount at all - the only calculation the customer should have to do is adding a tip.

Dude, people make mistakes all the time, especially on the 3rd day of the job. The difference is that in the food services field, the mistakes come out of the waiter's pocket. If my mistakes came out of my pocket, I would hope that people would show some honesty when they catch the error (and perhaps take it out of the tip for their own inconvenience).

 

[waggy]

Im torn between it. On one had there IS NO way they would mention it to him if they over charged him adn the waitress really needs to pay attention to what she is doing. BUT it is still thieft and immoral. he knew it was wrong didnt care. hell he came here to brag about it.

 

[moshquerade]

what would i have done? first off, i don't see what the bfd is, you got a deal. so either you diet and dash or else you tell her she didn't charge you enough. secondly, if a waiter/waitress makes a mistake, i just poignantly remind them of what they are forgetting. most of them will bend over backwards to please you.

 

[GrumpyMan]

I was eating at Denny's a couple of weeks ago and the waiter who was a little slow mentally was kind of slow service wise but not too bad. Anyway the bill was about $13.50 or something like that and I gave him a $20.00. He brought me back change for a $100.00. Needless to say I called him over an pointed out the mistake. Boy was he grateful to me and he got real emotional saying that he would of gotten fired and all.
I wouldn't knowingly screw someone around these days, but that's just me. I can't really judge you on your actions, because in my younger days I might have taken the money and run. But not now.

 

[Old Hippie]

I can't believe some of you think what the OP did is acceptable behaviour.

He noticed the mistake and stiffed the waitperson. :thumbsdown:

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

 

[tasmanian]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

What if you hand them a 20 for a ten dollar item and think you handed them a 10. They should just keep the change?

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: tasmanian
She charged him $155 not $180. They paid what they were charged with, no stealing there. It is not his responsibility to calculate the bill, nor is it his obligation to correct any mistakes. It rests solely upon the restaurant and the waitress.

So if you get the wrong change at the grocery store, you notice it, decide to keep it instead of return it, you see no problem?

Nope it is their mistake not mine. I paid that grocery bill, not my fault if they fail to count out the change. That is their job not mine.

Ok just checking.