Do you think the transgender movement is bad for the gay rights movement?

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woolfe9998

woolfe9998

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bradly1101 said:
As a gay man I always wondered about adding the 'T' on there, but I assumed "the power gays" (the ones who work in the upper echelons of media) put it there to be inclusive (many of us know the torture of lack of acceptance). Also a man who feels he's really a woman obviously likes other men and therefore has something in common with gays.
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Nowhere near all of them do. Caitlyn Jenner?

The fact that not all trans are "gay" relative to their original gender makes the connection with gay rights a bit more tenuous. Then again, I suppose they are all gay in one gender and straight in the other, unless they're bi.
 
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the bestiality mob is next for "rights".
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Damn right; it's been a slippery slope ever since we gave women and blacks the "right" to vote, eh?

Then what's next? Inter-bestial marriage?

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Sonikku

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LegendKiller said:
And another moron who misses the point. I don't give a fuck if you cut your dick off or wear dresses. Just don't pretend it is normal and force that shit on my family. You want to live like that, fine. I don't care. But don't re label my normal kids cisgender or tell them that they have to accept this or else.
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Your resistance is futile. We already have a small pretty dress picked out for your son. By the time you read this we'll already be in your house adorning him with all kinds of girly makeup.

Even now it is too late to stop the spread.

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Indus

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Under legendkiller and these hater's logic, every person who has tattoos or every woman who has breast implants or a masectomy or hysterectomy is mentally ill.

Be who you are. Be happy.
 
woolfe9998

woolfe9998

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Indus said:
Under legendkiller and these hater's logic, every person who has tattoos or every woman who has breast implants or a masectomy or hysterectomy is mentally ill.

Be who you are. Be happy.
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Yes, but how can we allow that when our children can catch this "mental disease" just by being in proximity to it? Think of the children.
 
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LegendKiller

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Indus said:
Under legendkiller and these hater's logic, every person who has tattoos or every woman who has breast implants or a masectomy or hysterectomy is mentally ill.

Be who you are. Be happy.
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Yes, I do think that. But then again, those others aren't completely changing their biology
 
Indus

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LegendKiller said:
Yes, I do think that. But then again, those others aren't completely changing their biology
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Are you sure?

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It makes her happy, let her do it. She's not hurting anyone else and you can do what you want with your body.
 
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LegendKiller

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Indus said:
Are you sure?

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It makes her happy, let her do it. She's not hurting anyone else and you can do what you want with your body.
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Please show me where I have said she can't do it?

My point, all along, has been that if I say "that's fucked up" that I not be treated as the strange one, that my livelihood not be threatened and that people don't try to indoctrinate my kids to think that is normal. I leave you alone, you leave me alone. I don't try to eliminate your rights, you don't eliminate mine. You don't try to fuck over my life, I don't try to fuck over yours.

However, that isn't the way this transgender thing works. No, they want to shove it down everybody's throat. They want to crush anybody who doesn't 100% publicly espouse their opinion. That is the problem I have. Acceptance at gunpoint. Intolerance.
 
Indus

Indus

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LegendKiller said:
Please show me where I have said she can't do it?

My point, all along, has been that if I say "that's fucked up" that I not be treated as the strange one, that my livelihood not be threatened and that people don't try to indoctrinate my kids to think that is normal. I leave you alone, you leave me alone. I don't try to eliminate your rights, you don't eliminate mine. You don't try to fuck over my life, I don't try to fuck over yours.

However, that isn't the way this transgender thing works. No, they want to shove it down everybody's throat. They want to crush anybody who doesn't 100% publicly espouse their opinion. That is the problem I have. Acceptance at gunpoint. Intolerance.
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I would have agreed with leave you alone and you leave them alone.

The reason I have an issue with the hate is because my best friends wife or spouse is transgender.

All he and she wanted was equal rights under the constitution, which they have got now since the DOMA SCOTUS decision since my friend needed to get her a visa to immigrate here legally as his wife. Before that legal decision, she would not qualify for a visa to come and stay with him in the US.

How is asking for the same right as anyone else shoving something down your throat? You never even knew of people having a trans spouse before today? So you're the intolerant one if that's what it comes down to.

And I've been talking to her regarding this thread over the holiday weekend and her reaction is simply oh not everyone likes transgender. She's used to it. She just ignores them and wants to be happy herself.

I also brought up the point of transgender people in bathrooms abusing children and she surprisingly told me, many time those transgenders are not transgenders but fakers and child molesters who pretend to be transgenders and give the trans community a bad name. A true transgender want to be women and are sexually incompatible with women. They will however want to get a hot guy.

So you don't don't need to worry about your wife or daughter but you might have your butt or penis grabbed if you're hot. Hell it's happened to me walking the street in Singapore, Angeles, Bangkok and Sao Paulo.
 
bradly1101

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woolfe9998 said:
Nowhere near all of them do. Caitlyn Jenner?

The fact that not all trans are "gay" relative to their original gender makes the connection with gay rights a bit more tenuous. Then again, I suppose they are all gay in one gender and straight in the other, unless they're bi.
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I don't think there are many if any transgender lesbians (a man identifying as a woman and keeping his 'parts' to be with lesbian women). If that were a thing, wouldn't tons of straight guys be signing up?
 
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Indus said:
Caitlyn Jenner confronts protesters who claim she’s ‘an insult to trans people’

As I said earlier.. this Bruce/ Caitlyn Jenner is the worst thing that happened to Trans people.
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On the contrary, I think it exposes the movement for what it is. People seeking attention and the mentally ill having problems.

It's ironic that they want everybody to just accept them, but then they won't just accept Bruce for what he is. Why? Because he coopts their attention.

Mentally ill people are mad when other mentally ill people get more attention.
 
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Then why are doctors not calling it a mental illness anymore.

Hell even PTSD is a disease now where as 70 years ago, you could get court martialed for pretending to have it.
 
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Indus said:
Then why are doctors not calling it a mental illness anymore.

Hell even PTSD is a disease now where as 70 years ago, you could get court martialed for pretending to have it.
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The same reason why people can't say it's fucked up, because social pressures and liberal agendas. Why has the term "Cisgendered" become popular among SJWs? Because social pressures, liberal agendas, and the attempt to label and marginalize normalcy. It's a nice feminist attempt to control words and agendas.
 
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Indus

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LegendKiller said:
The same reason why people can't say it's fucked up, because social pressures and liberal agendas. Why has the term "Cisgendered" become popular among SJWs? Because social pressures, liberal agendas, and the attempt to label and marginalize normalcy. It's a nice feminist attempt to control words and agendas.
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Must suck for you to be mentally ill because of liberals. Too bad there's no cure. It must eat you daily. :D
 
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bshole said:
Well it is nice to see trans people being so "tolerant" of Caitlyn. Their tolerance of Caitlyn is a great illustration of how they want the rest of the world to treat them. Fucking hypocrites.
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That's the problem with the trans "movement". It isn't about tolerance. Most people don't care whether you want to cut your dick off, it's your dick. The difference is that not caring isn't an option, you have to not only not care, you have to fully accept it, without qualification, and publicly, or you will get your life ruined. That isn't tolerance, that is intolerance.

And you see it laid bare here. They aren't tolerance people, they want you to fully accept everything they say. "Tolerance" at gunpoint.
 
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LegendKiller

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Indus said:
That's exactly what Trans people want.. to come home and live their life without getting murdered or assaulted or locked up.

Apparently that seems too much to ask for..

As this transgender found out a simple checking into a hotel for a funeral can get you jailed..

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No, it is not what they want, as evidenced by Bruce Jenner's problems. What they want is complete subjugation of anybody who may have an opinion, forced acceptance and abrogation of any rights of free speech.

They want it practically illegal for me to say "Wow, that's fucked up". SJWs destroy anybody who says that. I feel sorry for Bruce Jenner's kids because they can't possibly disagree with his decision. If they did they'd never get a job again. SJWs would make sure of that.
 
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LegendKiller said:
No, it is not what they want, as evidenced by Bruce Jenner's problems. What they want is complete subjugation of anybody who may have an opinion, forced acceptance and abrogation of any rights of free speech.

They want it practically illegal for me to say "Wow, that's fucked up". SJWs destroy anybody who says that. I feel sorry for Bruce Jenner's kids because they can't possibly disagree with his decision. If they did they'd never get a job again. SJWs would make sure of that.
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Why are you so frightened?
 
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