lol thats crazy, got it for like 400eu something back then, need to get on that. Thanks.About $500:
How much would a reference vega 56 go for?
The manufacturers are currently projecting "Q3 2021" for the GPU shortage to end right now.
Right, just when they are about to release a newer graphics card - RTX 4080, etc.The manufacturers are currently projecting "Q3 2021" for the GPU shortage to end right now.
Right, just when they are about to release a newer graphics card - RTX 4080, etc.
Geez... they haven't even finished releasing the 3000 series cards yet. Nvidia still owes us a "3050" series value option in the $250 range.
-"Owes Us"
If I was AMD or NV, I'd be dumping as much of my manufacturing capacity into high margin cards as possible right now. Not that I think these companies necessarily can pivot that quickly, but if they could they would.
If every $1000 - $2000 card is going to sell right now, why waste time manufacturing $250 ones?
-"Owes Us"
If I was AMD or NV, I'd be dumping as much of my manufacturing capacity into high margin cards as possible right now. Not that I think these companies necessarily can pivot that quickly, but if they could they would.
If every $1000 - $2000 card is going to sell right now, why waste time manufacturing $250 ones?
Especially if they can turn the 1050 ti and 2060/2060S supply back up, which is definitely the right call if they can crank the spigot wide open. If only they were available or affordable either. I mean, if you could easily buy a 1050 ti for $125 or a 2060/2060S for $250/$300 would there be that many complaints right now?
If Nvidia can't create compelling enough products to get people to upgrade from them even after a "crash" then they are doing it wrong.
There is just *nothing* to buy for normal people and that sucks.
-"Owes Us"
If I was AMD or NV, I'd be dumping as much of my manufacturing capacity into high margin cards as possible right now. Not that I think these companies necessarily can pivot that quickly, but if they could they would.
If every $1000 - $2000 card is going to sell right now, why waste time manufacturing $250 ones?
I'm curious how the performance on the new Intel Xe GPU's will be. If history repeats itself and they underperform the mainstream AMD and Nvidia cards, they might have to price them cheaper.
Like Steve from Gamers Nexus likes to say... they don't have to be good right now. They just need to exist
We really need to continue to have a "value" option for PC gaming to lure in new consumers. Otherwise, we'll lose an entire generation of gamers to consoles.
Most gamers can't afford to start with a $1,000 video card, but they'll upgrade to one eventually once they get hooked.
Sell it. Like NOW.Thoughts?
Sell it. Like NOW.
Here's kind of what I'm thinking.Are you being sarcastic? What are you basing that on?
Here's kind of what I'm thinking.
Right now, the market is pricing GPUs at around 100 days worth of prime earnings mining ETH.
We have until July, before EIP-1559 is implemented, then the "prime" earnings that we see today will be GONE.
Miners, at least anyone beyond n00b level, will see that. Meaning, that they could still ROI the cards, if you hypothetically sold your card to another miner, around now-ish. As it gets closer to EIP-1559 drop time, miners are going to be correspondingly less likely to buy your card at today's elevated prices. (Demand will drop from miners.)
And then, in July, once EIP-1559 actually hits, then everyone who is mining, will really see what kind of a "hit" to revenue that they will be taking, and a lot of them, that are either recent miners, or over-paid for their cards, will be like rats on a sinking ship, scrambling to sell their cards, before this news trickles out to the gamers.
Assuming that the hit is substantial enough to cause
I'd try to get current market rates for your card, don't underprice it too much, but get it on the market.
But also make sure that you can manage to get along without it.
Yah, I'll put it into an auction and start above what I think it's worth. I keep going over that 'get along without it', but I have a 3070 in my main rig, and still have another 1660 Super for the boy's PC. The other one has a 3060ti in his. I've been pretty successful getting cards from Memory Express just by getting my name on a list for a certain card. It's tough though to let go of any cards right now that are capable of gaming at 1440p.
We really need to continue to have a "value" option for PC gaming to lure in new consumers. Otherwise, we'll lose an entire generation of gamers to consoles.
Most gamers can't afford to start with a $1,000 video card, but they might upgrade to one eventually once they get hooked. Personally, I doubt that I'll ever be willing to pay more than $400 for one. At that point, I might as well just get a new XBox or PS5.
It really doesn't matter what you think the industry needs. The cold hard truth is that miners will pay twice MSRP or even more than that for GPUs right now, so guess where those GPUs are going to wind up. It doesn't even matter how much of a gamer someone is because eventually there comes a price where they gladly sell their GPU. About the only type of person who doesn't do this is someone oblivious to everything going on in the market right now. You can't even get an Xbox or a PS5 for a reasonable price right now because those are being scalped in much the same way.
Meanwhile the next generation of gamers are going to get along fine with an APU or the integrated graphics which are generally doing quite well at 720p and even offering reasonable 1080p performance in some of the more popular, but not demanding PC titles. The reality is that most gamers won't even buy a $330 GPU which excludes everything that AMD and Nvidia have released so far, even if we were just going by MSRP. Eventually we'll get far enough down the stack that the cards are useless for mining or that the graphics just gets rolled in to an APU because it's pointless to sell as a stand alone card.
I'm getting tired of arguments about PC gaming going away. If the arguments had any merit we wouldn't have a PC gaming market at all right now because the last mining boom would have destroyed the market for same reasons. Of course that didn't happen, so maybe the sky isn't falling. Maybe it's just the double-whammy of the consoles being new and relatively the closest to PC performance that they'll ever be, but in two years the performance won't be anywhere near impressive and lack of keyboard and mouse will still mean they're incapable of the kind of experiences that PCs offer.