Do you own any weapons?

[SirFshAlot]

I have the Mossburg 500 home defense gun, also, but unloaded.

I keep a Beretta 92f, unloaded, in my truck.

I have a couple of Ruger 10/22s for plinking and bunny control.

I have a nice collection of knives.

would like one of these;
http://www.italpro.com/ab/switchbl.htm


Having kids in the home completely changes the concept of home-defense.
All of my ammo is now stored outside of the house.

 

[zippy]

Just curious, but if there was a burglar in your house and you wanted to shoot it (as anyone would...uninvited guests that are stealing deserve to be shot), wouldn't it make the most sense to become proficient at one gun...ohhh...i dunno, an accurate gun.

I would think that a marksman with a 92FS 9mm would be more able than someone with a one shot shotgun...for the simple reason that it is more accurate!

 

[HannibalX]

There is no manual safety

Is it my understanding that you have to pull two seperate triggers to fire a Glock? How safe can you get?!

 

[HannibalX]

There is no manual safety

Is it my understanding that you have to pull two seperate triggers to fire a Glock? How safe can you get?!

 

[convex]

sose, I can't think of one good reason why you'd post that you have an obviously illegal weapon on a public forum.

 

[HannibalX]

Mp5's are legel for citizen ownrtship via special permit - their not illegal.

 

[SirFshAlot]

zippy,
I know this is kind of a "duh" type response; but think about the spread pattern of a shotgun vs. the trajectory of a bullet.
Then, consider the emotional factor of a "marksman" faced with shooting a living, breathing, threatening target. Hom many citizens get any training in shooting back at a potential killer?
I love my 9mm, but I would worry that I might have a hard time justifying several shots, whereas, a single blast from a 12gauge would most likely be fatal, wouldn't it?

 

[convex]

not in the us (unless you have a class III isn't it?)....and I seriously doubt you can own one in canada...

 

[zippy]

When you get your adrenaline going and see a burglar that is stealing your goods which you worked to buy and threatening your family, you will want more than several shots, you will wanna put several clips into that motha fscker simply on instinct and rage. However, if you are trained properly, one shot can do it.

Edit: Hell, one shot with a powerful BB gun can do it! :Q

 

[HannibalX]

No convex they are whats known as "Civilian Transferable" weapons that civilians can obtain through law enforcment agencies and a speacial permit. Some states require the govoner sign a report saying that your allowd to own one. I know in Florida you have to have the govoners permission, I think in Oregon as well.

 

[convex]

I still don't think you can own one in canada...hmm

 

[RGN]

um, convex why cause trouble?

 

[lepper boy]

My wife says I have to many weapons.... from knives to guns.. My fav. to shoot must be my .357 nice little gun.....

and I have had training in Shooting back at someone, and I am a civilian........

go figure.

 

[kamiam]

convex and trinitron... they do make "civilian' mp5's that are only semi auto and are perfectly legal in most states... if they were legal in my state I would own one, unfortunatly I live in a NAZI state...CA.

 

[I'm Typing]

Hmm. Let's see. Right Hand. Left Hand. Two feet.

That makes four.

11 throwing knives.

40 inch Kitana blade.

Crowbar.

17, I guess. You had better be real good with that gun, buddy, and you had better stay more than 15 feet away when you use it.

 

[kamiam]

no problem I shoot under 2 inch groups @ 25 yards w/my 357 mag

 

[I'm Typing]

That message was for anyone stupid enough to try to rob me.

But then you knew that.


Most guys who want to rob are counting on you being afraid of the gun. I am counting on the fact that the kind of guy who would want to rob me spends more time hanging out and drinking than on a gun range.

 

[kamiam]

yeah... I was just kidding w/ya

 

[Russ]

kamiam,

I have to disagree with you on one point. Number 4 is better for home protection. It will still devastate everything in it's path, but is less likely to penetrate walls and hurt innocents.

And, anyone else who is considering a weapon for protecting your home; a handgun should NOT be your first choice. A shotgun should. There are many reasons for this, but the most IMPORTANT is that you will be less likely to kill an inncocent.

To be accurate with a handgun under the stressful situation of a home invasion requires a VERY high skill level and, unless you are willing to devote hundreds of hours to become more intimately familiar with the weapon than with your own wife, this is not what you should be purchasing.

A shotgun, on the other hand, while still requiring practice and familiarization, can be handled with a marginally less level of dedication. And, if you do miss, most walls will stop the shot. Besides, there's nothing like the unmistakable sound of a slide racking to put a little fear in the heart of even the most determined slimeball.

Zippy,

Nope, my weapons weren't aquired as a result of Y2K. Matter of fact, I've had a concealed weapons permit since, well, several years before you were born.

Russ, NCNE

 

[TimberWolf]

convex:

Title III firearms (fully automatic) manufactured before 1986 are completely legal for civilian ownership, provided you have the requisite Tax Stamp from the Treasury Department; and a "letter of approval" from the Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) where you reside. With few exceptions, most states also allow ownership with CLEO approval.

Over 225,000 fully automatic firearms are legally civilian owned in the US. Only one has ever been involved in the commision of a crime: An illegal transfer by, of all people, a police officer.

Suppressors, commonly (and erroneously) referred to as "silencers", are also legal for civilian ownership (with CLEO approval). They are identified with their own serial number, and also require a Tax Stamp. If an individual owns legal Title III firearms, having suppressors for some of them isn't as bizarre as it may seem - firing noise is kept to easily manageable levels; and long range accuracy is actually improved with some models (Uzi and MP5, for example).

The Heckler & Koch MP5, in all it's various models and calibers, is an absolute pleasure to shoot. It's well balanced, extremely accurate in 2 - 3 shot bursts, and utterly reliable.

For those who are unaware, Elian Gonzalez got an "up close" look at the business end of one - refer to the now famous photo . . .
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Current collection:

Ruger Mk II Government Model (.22 LR)
Davis derringer (.32 ACP)
EAA Windicator (.38 Spl.)
S&W Model 63 (.357 Mag.)
Ruger GP-100 (.357 Mag.)
Taurus PT-101 (.40 S&W)
EAA Witness Compact (.45 ACP)

Ruger 10/22 (.22 LR) w/ 3x9 Burris 'scope
Colt AR-15 Competition HBAR (.223 Rem.) w/ Leupold 4x16 'scope
Romanian AK-47 (7.62x39) w/ 6x 'scope
Marlin 336 (.30-30)
Mossberg 500 (12 Ga)

T/C Contender -
16" Hunter barrel (.223 Rem.) w/ 4x16 Burris 'scope
10" bull barrel (.44 Mag.)

And a Dillon RL-550 reloading press to feed most of the above . . .

 

[kamiam]

Damn Timberwolf sounds like my collection but I bought the RCBS ammomaster auto back when it 1st came out...also because I live (again) in a nazi state I think its prudent I not list my collection:Q


Russ... your probably right... I just like the idea of 18 30 cal pellets in one little shell... and you gotta love the intimidating sound of racking that pump

 

[HannibalX]

You should be aiming your weapons at the Nazi's in your state - Kill em, Kill em all.

 

[Tominator]

Trinitron Th Glock has three safeties. All are designed to prevent an accidental discharge. Just pulling the trigger diactivates them. Kind of like picking up a loaded revolver. Pull trigger...BANG!

TimberWolf
NFA Weapons [National Firearms Act] are VERY heavily regulated! The Governors Sig means beans unless all Federal Laws are followed.

I know of no individual that has a Full Auto weapon that is legal. It is just too expensive to keep! To start, 10 years ago, the Federal Fee just to have the neccessary license was $750...a year! Yes, for a while there was a 'Grandfather Clause,' but a usual give the Anti Gun Feds and inch...
Heck, just holding a spring or barrel along with the semi-auto version of many guns is a Federal Felony!
This doesn't even include the 'Tax Stamp,' which again 10 years ago was $250 per firearm.

I think the Class III License just to collect them is well over $2000 dollars a year. The only way to even get a legit dealer to talk to you is if the Weapon is purchased by a Police Agency and then there are so many hoops to jump through that most departments don't bother.

Even if you can afford to be a Class III dealer, there are Laws regulateing the transportation of that weapon to and from anywhere.

Ditto the suppressors!

BTW, although it was 10 years ago, I worked full time doing Police demos in most of the US using the very latest in full auto weapons.
I used to shoot 'Expert' on the Combat Range. Had TONS of fun! Ever shoot a Ma Deuce? Quad 30 caliber Brownings, BAR, Swedish K, Greece Gun, MP3, UZI,.....tons more....I really miss it..

 

[montanafan]

Russ or any others who know something about shotguns,

What sort of shotgun would you recommend for a female for home protection?

I'd like to get something that's:
1. Relatively inexpensive
2. Easy to use
3. Little or no kick
4. Not likely to blow a hole through the wall

I own a Smith and Wesson .38 Special, but I've always thought it would be good to just fire off in the general direction of a burglar to scare them away. Now I'm thinking that may not be such a good idea. Like Russ was saying, it's not easy to hit a target with a handgun, and if the burglar is armed too, I may want something that would give me a better chance of hitting him.

So what would you recommend?

 

[lowtech1]

Other than my cooking utensils as weapon, I also own pens/paper, my brain, and my puter.