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cmdrdredd

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unsurprising
neither of these deliver the value of their msrp for most ppl
the idea of some $500 box underneath a tv that could cost around the same
not appealing
in the age of chromecast/roku/ and misc the console just comes across as expensive and
im guessing for many superfluous

That article is full of crap. Look at how poorly the ps3 sold then tell me that last gen sold better.

The sell through of ps4 consoles in the first week is 80% higher than the first 3 months of ps3. Also nobody is buying the ps4 or xb1 as an alternative to a chromecast. That is just stupid to say. Since a chromecast doesnt do all the same stuff.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-s-first-week-gamestop-sales-surpass-ps3-s-first-3-months/1100-6416312/
 
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cmdrdredd

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If anyone needs their eyes checked that would be you. The fact is you even showed the difference between muddy looking washed out textures in beginning of this thread. Xbox 360 vs Xboxone. Contradiction? To me, the xbox 360 looks flat in comparsion to the one. Well... the same can be said when the xbox360 vs other superior hardware. Or the One/PS4 vs superior hardware.

Yeah cause every game looks like CoD with a decade old engine. I am not saying ganes cant loom better i am saying that games on consoles dont always look like crap like you and many elitists want to believe.
 
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sze5003

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Most people that buy consoles buy them to play games. Everyone knows you can buy a smart tv for those streaming apps. The new systems just came out, if this was a year later and you posted that article, maybe it would be somewhat valid but for right now it doesn't make any sense.
 

Wingznut

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in the age of chromecast/roku/ and misc the console just comes across as expensive and im guessing for many superfluous
I tried to play Titanfall on my Chromecast yesterday... It ran terribly and the controls were awful.
 

Sulaco

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The games kind of suck right now. That's...just a fact.

There's not a whole lot in the pipe either. Maybe by Q3/Q4, but as a whole, this is not a "blockbuster" year.
Personally and anecdotally, that's why I haven't bothered. I had set aside enough money to buy both by Christmas, with a few games each, and just couldn't bring myself to do it. Nothing much around the corner either, so why bother?

But lets' be real: It's simply a slow (half?)year. The games will come. The PS3 had an abysmal first few months, with "Nier" being the first really hyped early game. Just a sample of how desperate times were. But I think it's safe to say the sales and games came through for the PS3.
There's simply no doubt. And as soon as they do, the sales will be right back on track, and we'll look back at topics like this and laugh.
 

Wingznut

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The games kind of suck right now. That's...just a fact.
That is absolutely not "a fact"... It's completely subjective.

I am having a lot of fun with my Xbox One, and there are several games I am enjoying very much. Titanfall, Forza 5, Madden, Ryse, Killer Instinct, Garden Warfare, Tomb Raider... Even Peggle 2 is a lot of fun.

So, perhaps you think they suck (regardless of whether or not you've actually played them), but that doesn't make it "a fact."
 

purbeast0

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hahaha wow @ that article.

"consoles break all time sales records. consoles are in crisis mode!"

wish i was in crisis mode.
 

spaceman

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these new consoles are for pseudo enthusiasts
they lack the power of a semi modern pc
and they lack the library
they are competing with their own legacy devices in a time its hard to find something that doesnt play games
a box..black box for 500 that idles under the tv like their $100 box
i can get kindle fires for a family of 5ive with that.
 

Sulaco

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That is absolutely not "a fact"... It's completely subjective.

I am having a lot of fun with my Xbox One, and there are several games I am enjoying very much. Titanfall, Forza 5, Madden, Ryse, Killer Instinct, Garden Warfare, Tomb Raider... Even Peggle 2 is a lot of fun.

So, perhaps you think they suck (regardless of whether or not you've actually played them), but that doesn't make it "a fact."

*shrug* Glad you're amused.

I've played them all but Garden Warfare (sorry, but no..), Titanfall, and Peggle 2 (again...no)

A Madden game with a few small graphical tweaks, update of a year old game that looks marginally better, Ryse (which admittedly I played for an hour or so, but most everyone outside of this forum finds mediocre; it's saving grace being it's pretty and a launch title).
I'm a sucker for Forza, but considering all the DLC I invested in Forza 4 (including the massive Porsche car pack), it simply doesn't offer enough for a full price investment right now. KI was a blast though, and I wasn't even too huge a fan of the original.

Don't take it personally, but even what you named there, there's only 2-3 that are exclusive or offer a leap worthy of a $500 investment.
 

cmdrdredd

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The games kind of suck right now. That's...just a fact.

There's not a whole lot in the pipe either. Maybe by Q3/Q4, but as a whole, this is not a "blockbuster" year.
Personally and anecdotally, that's why I haven't bothered. I had set aside enough money to buy both by Christmas, with a few games each, and just couldn't bring myself to do it. Nothing much around the corner either, so why bother?

But lets' be real: It's simply a slow (half?)year. The games will come. The PS3 had an abysmal first few months, with "Nier" being the first really hyped early game. Just a sample of how desperate times were. But I think it's safe to say the sales and games came through for the PS3.
There's simply no doubt. And as soon as they do, the sales will be right back on track, and we'll look back at topics like this and laugh.

The system is still selling well.

Anyway inFamous and MLB the show are enough right now for me to recommend a ps4 to anyone who asks. Having seen inFamous gameplay it really is looking killer. I am familiar with the show so adding better player models, more models for the fans in the stands and more detailed stadiums with better player and ball physics is enough to me.

I think after some people see inFamous they will be that much more interested in the ps4. If titanfall grabs enough attention from players for an extended time, i think it can be a boon for the xb1 too even if it is on pc and 360.
 

cmdrdredd

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these new consoles are for pseudo enthusiasts
they lack the power of a semi modern pc
and they lack the library
they are competing with their own legacy devices in a time its hard to find something that doesnt play games
a box..black box for 500 that idles under the tv like their $100 box
i can get kindle fires for a family of 5ive with that.

And your kindle wouldnt play all these games we mentioned nor that $100 box you mentioned either.you keep trying to compare these consoles with a roku or something but these do so much more than a roku ever could. Try again.
 
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sze5003

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these new consoles are for pseudo enthusiasts
they lack the power of a semi modern pc
and they lack the library
they are competing with their own legacy devices in a time its hard to find something that doesnt play games
a box..black box for 500 that idles under the tv like their $100 box
i can get kindle fires for a family of 5ive with that.

Again it's subjective. I have a good pc I built to play games that I want to play which consoles don't have. You don't have to have one and no one is telling you that you should like consoles.

If you are a gamer you won't care about this stuff and most people at least here have both high end pc's and consoles.

And yea kindle fire will play games if you are only into those type of games. Most people don't buy a console to play games you can find on your phone or tablet.
 

purbeast0

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these new consoles are for pseudo enthusiasts
they lack the power of a semi modern pc
and they lack the library
they are competing with their own legacy devices in a time its hard to find something that doesnt play games
a box..black box for 500 that idles under the tv like their $100 box
i can get kindle fires for a family of 5ive with that.

hey since you seem to know so much about pc gaming, could you build me one that will play killer instinct, ryse, knack, and killzone? those are the only 4 ps4/x1 games i own right now, but since you seem to be so into pc and the games are better on pc, could you build me a pc that will play those games?

while we're at it, can you show me where on the google play or amazon store those games are as well so i could play them on my kindle or my nexus 7?

thx.
 

spaceman

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Again it's subjective. I have a good pc I built to play games that I want to play which consoles don't have. You don't have to have one and no one is telling you that you should like consoles.

If you are a gamer you won't care about this stuff and most people at least here have both high end pc's and consoles.

And yea kindle fire will play games if you are only into those type of games. Most people don't buy a console to play games you can find on your phone or tablet.

theres no sexiness there
when playstation hit u had tekken
n64 u had mario and so on
it was apparent when u saw it u couldnt find this type of experience or similar anywhere
there is nothing that screams next gen or one of a kind experience
so many devices now offer if not an equal a derivative one
 
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spaceman

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hey since you seem to know so much about pc gaming, could you build me one that will play killer instinct, ryse, knack, and killzone? those are the only 4 ps4/x1 games i own right now, but since you seem to be so into pc and the games are better on pc, could you build me a pc that will play those games?

while we're at it, can you show me where on the google play or amazon store those games are as well so i could play them on my kindle or my nexus 7?

thx.


never heard of those games sorry
 

sze5003

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theres no sexiness there
when playstation hit u had tekken
n64 u had mario and so on
it was apparent when u saw it u couldnt find this type of experience or similar anywhere
there is nothing that screams next gen or one of a kind experience
so many devices now offer if not an equal a derivative one

Look at ryse and killzone, graphics are excellent.

Xb1..killer instinct, forza, ryse

Ps4...killzone, infamous, 2k14 looks great, and mlb the show will also look pretty good.

Soon ps4 will have the Crew, the division, uncharted, plus some other games coming out.
 

spaceman

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oh ok so because you are ignorant of the subject at hand we should all value your opinion on the subject at hand like it is gospel.

GOTCHA!

no.take metacritics word for it
or any number of places
u cited 3 mediocre games and a ftp fighter
for $1000+?
and people should listen to you?
k
 

spaceman

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Look at ryse and killzone, graphics are excellent.

Xb1..killer instinct, forza, ryse

Ps4...killzone, infamous, 2k14 looks great, and mlb the show will also look pretty good.

Soon ps4 will have the Crew, the division, uncharted, plus some other games coming out.

ya they look good
we live in an age of good looking things tho
 

sze5003

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Well you were saying there's nothing interesting. Infamous second son gameplay and graphics is great. I guarantee people are going to enjoy that game after seeing the 1hr live stream.

The other games you need to have an interest in since they are niche but there are exclusives worth playing. Knack is fun, outlast is too and was free on psn last month.
 

purbeast0

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no.take metacritics word for it
or any number of places
u cited 3 mediocre games and a ftp fighter
for $1000+?
and people should listen to you?
k

the fact that you have no clue what all 4 of those games are means that your opinion on them is invalid and doesn't matter. how do you know if they are mediocore if you haven't played them? and killer instinct isn't ftp.

i just realized that this is the same spaceman from atot who types like a retard.
 

spaceman

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the fact that you have no clue what all 4 of those games are means that your opinion on them is invalid and doesn't matter. how do you know if they are mediocore if you haven't played them? and killer instinct isn't ftp.

i just realized that this is the same spaceman from atot who types like a retard.

ur being obtuse
3 of those games are critically mediocre by virtually any metric, that u offer them as a reason
to invest in the system says as much about what isnt available than is
why would anyone buy the sys for those games? there are superior examples of them on just about every other platform
exclusive doesnt equate to good and not sure why u think it does
 

purbeast0

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ur being obtuse
3 of those games are critically mediocre by virtually any metric, that u offer them as a reason
to invest in the system says as much about what isnt available than is
why would anyone buy the sys for those games? there are superior examples of them on just about every other platform
exclusive doesnt equate to good and not sure why u think it does

once again, you haven't played any of those games so you have no clue if they are good or not. i'll be the first one to say that killzone sucks. but just because i don't like it doesn't mean others don't. but apparently you are able to tell people what a console is "worth" to them.

and i don't "invest" in a system. they aren't appreciating in value. if a console has 1 game i want to play, i will buy it. xbox1 had killer instinct so that was an immediate purchase. ps4 i won and didn't buy, and probably wouldn't have bought it.

go back to trolling atot.
 

spaceman

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once again, you haven't played any of those games so you have no clue if they are good or not. i'll be the first one to say that killzone sucks. but just because i don't like it doesn't mean others don't. but apparently you are able to tell people what a console is "worth" to them.

and i don't "invest" in a system. they aren't appreciating in value. if a console has 1 game i want to play, i will buy it. xbox1 had killer instinct so that was an immediate purchase. ps4 i won and didn't buy, and probably wouldn't have bought it.

go back to trolling atot.


i dont need and never needed to play a lousy game or a middling one
imma discriminating gamer
i use tools like the internet to come to conclusions about games and other medias
i assure u its a fairly deliberate process and prolly pretty similar to what most ppl do
just as i dont need to see the last airbendar to know its probably shit
i do not need to play a shooter which couldnt muster out of the 50s across the peoples of the world and some hack and slash that couldnt get above 60 for the same