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Lil Frier

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Sports games are not meant to be played on pc, I couldn't imagine a keyboard setup that'd be good for a basketball game.

I used to play NBA LIVE 2001 non-stop on a PC, but I was also about 12 when I did that. Allen Iverson and Steve Francis, both #3 for the Bulls at the same time...good times.
 

funmatters

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If you're initially disappointed with the new consoles graphics then you really should look at the graphics of early ps3 games compared to ones of the last 6 months or so!
 

alcoholbob

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In 5 years ps4/xbone games will look like how the Last of Us looks like compared to Launch PS3 games.

I have high hopes this gen Killzone Shadowfall already looks amazing as a launch title whereas launch ps3 games were barely better than ps2 games at the time.
 

exdeath

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PS3 was so wierd to program at first they were probably happy they just got something on the screen.
 

exdeath

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The PC master race died out when they had to start sharing food and resources with consoles.
 

Aikouka

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that's not true at all. it's my PC's fault that games look better on ps4 and xbox1 than they do on my PC, because my PC's graphics card is like 5 years old. the developers have nothing to do with that. and i don't care either since i don't game on PC.

It might be a difference in semantics, but that bolded part bugs me. It isn't your PC's fault that games don't look good. It's your fault for not building a PC designed for the task in question. However, you have mentioned several times that you don't want to, and that's fine. That's actually why I generally seem to prefer PCs... you can design them for what you want. I don't even game all that much anymore, but I still use my PC often for everything else.
 

HeXen

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Some PS4 comparison shots to PC look damn close to me if not identical especially when they often have to be zoomed in and red circled for anyone to notice *cough*. But to play a 6-20 hour game has little meaning in the differences of graphical enhancements. Now RPG's or any game where one could spend quite a portion of their life on for a few months is something different...providing the devs put the graphics into it to begin with. Skyrim looks like crap by default without at least some ENB or similar.

I did a lot of gaming on PC this past 15 + years but I also noticed quite a few years ago that I seemed to have spent far more time tweaking things, editing ini's or searching out configurations and ENB settings just so I could maximize every graphical portion humanly possible out of the given engine than I did playing it and according to the rich history of posts here, many of you had to have spent nearly the same amount of time in many games as well. Espeically Crysis, god did anyone even really play it or did they tweak it and play it for 10 mins before changing configs?
Last gen consoles had too many limitations (ram,loading speed,streaming issues and lack of multitasking) that hindered it's ability to offer the user experience it should have and that most historic consoles did have but this gen looks far more promising for providing good gaming experiences without the annoyances of last gen.

Can anyone honestly say that GTA V is a bad looking game? And that's last gen.

It's impressive considering the hardware. The very specs that anyone here would have said 7 years ago would be impossible. I posted before on my amazement of how good the water looks and how waves crash into rocks sprouting tall splashes, never saw that on any other game before. How the city looks from the air at a distance with the lighting and fog, They did a very good job.
 
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BrightCandle

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Its more the PC exclusives really. There are more PC exclusive games than there are games released for the consoles, so you are missing out on more than half of the material if you only limit yourself to the consoles. Regardless of graphics/120hz/better visuals almost always its the access to genres like RTS' and MMORPGs and others that really make the PC the main gaming platform. When you look at the numbers, there are some 650million discrete GPUs capable of playing modern games out there in the world, 75million people with steam. That all makes the console market kind of niche looking, and while its a nice niche, I like to play on the couch sometimes like everyone else, its also one that isn't as impressive as previous generations on launch.

There is often this claim of just PC gamers being these elitist jerks, but most of us play on consoles as well. I wouldn't post here if I didn't own one, and I own many because I am gamer. Its the guys that only own consoles that seem to degrade it to personal attacks, check yourself because at least I am comparing two things I own.
 

cmdrdredd

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A lot of people say PC has more games but when they are indie games I don't want to look at and RTS games I don't even play...I dunno, I don't seem to find this to be correct when looking at the games I actually like. I find more games on console that I play with some of them also being on PC.
 

zerocool84

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A lot of people say PC has more games but when they are indie games I don't want to look at and RTS games I don't even play...I dunno, I don't seem to find this to be correct when looking at the games I actually like. I find more games on console that I play with some of them also being on PC.

Yes there are more games on PC but most are throw away games we've never heard of. The fact of the matter is that there are more AAA that come out for console than PC. I love PC games but there is a reason why I have a console and the great games that you can't get anywhere else is the reason why. Plus if you have friends, you aren't going to crowd around a computer.
 

exdeath

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Last PC exclusive games to really blow me away were System Shock 2 and the original Deus Ex.

I keep waiting for a new game to top them and it never happens.
 

cmdrdredd

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Last PC exclusive games to really blow me away were System Shock 2 and the original Deus Ex.

I keep waiting for a new game to top them and it never happens.

I think a lot of the developer teams who made those types of games are gone now or at least only a shell of what they once were.
 

Arkaign

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Last PC exclusive games to really blow me away were System Shock 2 and the original Deus Ex.

I keep waiting for a new game to top them and it never happens.

Have you followed Star Citizen? That is coming together to look like it's going to be amazeballs.
 

alcoholbob

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Have you followed Star Citizen? That is coming together to look like it's going to be amazeballs.

Star Citizen may end up an amazing game but I wouldnt say it looks amazing...it looks like at best an Unreal 3-engine game from 2009.
 

exdeath

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Star Citizen may end up an amazing game but I wouldnt say it looks amazing...it looks like at best an Unreal 3-engine game from 2009.

System Shock 2 and Deus Ex didn't look all that amazing either. I wasn't referring to graphics. System Shock 2 used the already dated Thief engine if I'm not mistaken.
 

Arkaign

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Star Citizen may end up an amazing game but I wouldnt say it looks amazing...it looks like at best an Unreal 3-engine game from 2009.

I felt the same way until I read about what they're doing, and seeing some of the later builds. They have some dogfights with many ships of various sizes/types in an asteroid belt, and it's not cut/paste background chaff, it's all modeled out pretty solidly. The later builds should get vastly more intense in terms of scale as well (100 ship battle group dogfights with some capital ships involved as well).

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/23/star-citizen-will-apparently-look-this-good-on-your-pc/

"Chris Roberts and co, however, promise that everything we’re seeing is in-engine, and that next-gen rigs will absolutely be able to replicate it."

Should be nice to bounce back and forth from Infamous/etc on PS4, SM3DW/Smash/Zelda on WiiU, and Star Citizen/etc on PC for 2014-2015 :D
 

Arkaign

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System Shock 2 and Deus Ex didn't look all that amazing either. I wasn't referring to graphics. System Shock 2 used the already dated Thief engine if I'm not mistaken.

And yes, that's exactly what I mean overall. Ever since seeing Star Wars films (the first one was in theatres when I was born), I wanted a REAL massive starship game to play. It's obscene that the best ones are things like X-Wing, Tie Fighter, Wing Commander after all these years.

Having a hundred or more ships fighting it out with hangars, capital ships, comms, customized ships (each will be unique in some way, down to damage/paint/pilot detail in the cockpit), etc, if it all WORKS, it's going to be absolutely crazy.

And the #1 thing I like about it is that you CAN play it MMO style, but you aren't forced to. I personally have no interest in an in-game economy/yadda yadda. But being able to drop in and play a massive space battle, hell yeah. Will be even cooler to have a 3x1440p surround gaming setup for this one.
 

sze5003

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Yea that game looks great. Would be cool if they had a simulator for it though. I know there was a kickstarter for dcs to make a simulator for the f18 which I think is in progress. That too looked really good and seems to be modeled after the a10c game.
 

HeXen

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And yes, that's exactly what I mean overall. Ever since seeing Star Wars films (the first one was in theatres when I was born), I wanted a REAL massive starship game to play. It's obscene that the best ones are things like X-Wing, Tie Fighter, Wing Commander after all these years.

Having a hundred or more ships fighting it out with hangars, capital ships, comms, customized ships (each will be unique in some way, down to damage/paint/pilot detail in the cockpit), etc, if it all WORKS, it's going to be absolutely crazy.

And the #1 thing I like about it is that you CAN play it MMO style, but you aren't forced to. I personally have no interest in an in-game economy/yadda yadda. But being able to drop in and play a massive space battle, hell yeah. Will be even cooler to have a 3x1440p surround gaming setup for this one.

And by the time it comes out, it will look like most other games, at least historically this is how it often happened when seeing early previews of ambitious games, though sometimes over ambitious and didn't turn out as hyped. Call me a skeptic I just don't think it will come out complete anytime very soon.
 
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Arkaign

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And by the time it comes out, it will look like most other games, at least historically this is how it often happened when seeing early previews of ambitious games, though sometimes over ambitious and didn't turn out as hyped.

I'm cool with that if the content delivered is as-promised. There really isn't anything even close to it. Eve is a decent time-sink MMORPG for those that like it, but it's not a seat-of-your-pants space fighter game with hundreds of ships fighting at once in a detailed environment.

If it looked 10x better, but was 6v6 or 12v12 with no capital ships, hangers, customization, etc, then I would be like ... barf. 50v50+? True Variety? HELL FREAKING YES!

There have been a ton of games before that were leaked early, but took ages to come out and ended up being only marginally impressive. Doom3, Half Life 2, basically any FPS you can think of. This is something that breaks the mold though. There's basically nothing ground-breaking that's possible in an FPS other than more details (yawn). But this kind of thing has been sorely lacking, and finally the tech is all here ready to put together.

If it is a failure, it will be something completely incredible. It's the most supported crowd-funded game/film/media project in history already :

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-citizen-reaches-38-million-can-you-believe-it/1100-6417544/

Another great thing about it, is that another similar project has already reached 10M+, and ALSO looks good :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE8B4KptyVI

How many people grew up watching Star Wars or Star Trek, but had to wade through countless disappointing games that never put you in that kind of hot-seat dogfight? I can't freaking wait :D

And I'lll come hang my head in shame and disappointment if at least one of these isn't incredibly awesome. I also realize that not everyone is going to want to play a space fighter game, but hell, I hate Soccer, so FIFA is not for me, but I'm not going to say that it's a bad game. Different strokes and all ;)