DAMMIT! I hate smokers!

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NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Xiety
Hah I was gone for 6 hours and you guys kept bitching didn't you? Well too bad. I am not gonna read all your posts you bitch ass cry babies. However even without reading it, I hope all smokers blow the smoke on your face when you are in a restaurant or another public place. End of story, no more visits to this thread as it is full of idiot like you all.

Wow, I guess you didn't bother to read all the quotes/evidence/links I posted halfway up the page ;)

None of the other smokers did either. I guess the truth hurts.
 

Turkish

Lifer
May 26, 2003
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Hah I was gone for 6 hours and you guys kept bitching didn't you? Well too bad. I am not gonna read all your posts you bitch ass cry babies. However even without reading it, I hope all smokers blow the smoke on your face when you are in a restaurant or another public place. End of story, no more visits to this thread as it is full of idiot like you all.

Wow, I guess you didn't bother to read all the quotes/evidence/links I posted halfway up the page ;)

None of the other smokers did either. I guess the truth hurts.

no i read it, but what you quoted doesn't worth sh!t because it doesn't provide me with information defending that smoking is not a right. Smoking is a right people, get over it.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Hah I was gone for 6 hours and you guys kept bitching didn't you? Well too bad. I am not gonna read all your posts you bitch ass cry babies. However even without reading it, I hope all smokers blow the smoke on your face when you are in a restaurant or another public place. End of story, no more visits to this thread as it is full of idiot like you all.

Wow, I guess you didn't bother to read all the quotes/evidence/links I posted halfway up the page ;)

None of the other smokers did either. I guess the truth hurts.

no i read it, but what you quoted doesn't worth sh!t because it doesn't provide me with information defending that smoking is not a right. Smoking is a right people, get over it.
Even given the health concerns cited, you still would chose to light up in public around anyone? It's not a matter of it being a RIGHT, it's a matter of thinking about someone else other than yourself.

 

Turkish

Lifer
May 26, 2003
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Hah I was gone for 6 hours and you guys kept bitching didn't you? Well too bad. I am not gonna read all your posts you bitch ass cry babies. However even without reading it, I hope all smokers blow the smoke on your face when you are in a restaurant or another public place. End of story, no more visits to this thread as it is full of idiot like you all.

Wow, I guess you didn't bother to read all the quotes/evidence/links I posted halfway up the page ;)

None of the other smokers did either. I guess the truth hurts.

no i read it, but what you quoted doesn't worth sh!t because it doesn't provide me with information defending that smoking is not a right. Smoking is a right people, get over it.
Even given the health concerns cited, you still would chose to light up in public around anyone? It's not a matter of it being a RIGHT, it's a matter of thinking about someone else other than yourself.

Yes I still would light up in public around people if I smoked. Well, this country is formed on people's rights, so it's a matter of it being right.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Hah I was gone for 6 hours and you guys kept bitching didn't you? Well too bad. I am not gonna read all your posts you bitch ass cry babies. However even without reading it, I hope all smokers blow the smoke on your face when you are in a restaurant or another public place. End of story, no more visits to this thread as it is full of idiot like you all.

Wow, I guess you didn't bother to read all the quotes/evidence/links I posted halfway up the page ;)

None of the other smokers did either. I guess the truth hurts.

no i read it, but what you quoted doesn't worth sh!t because it doesn't provide me with information defending that smoking is not a right. Smoking is a right people, get over it.
Even given the health concerns cited, you still would chose to light up in public around anyone? It's not a matter of it being a RIGHT, it's a matter of thinking about someone else other than yourself.

Yes I still would light up in public around people if I smoked. Well, this country is formed on people's rights, so it's a matter of it being right.

Even if those rights infringe upon other people? No one is telling you not to smoke for good. They are just asking you not to smoke around others that don't care for it. It's the same reason why a lot of neighborhoods and apartment complexes have noise ordinances. Just b/c you enjoy loud music doesn't mean that everyone else surrounding you wants to listen to it.
 

Turkish

Lifer
May 26, 2003
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Hah I was gone for 6 hours and you guys kept bitching didn't you? Well too bad. I am not gonna read all your posts you bitch ass cry babies. However even without reading it, I hope all smokers blow the smoke on your face when you are in a restaurant or another public place. End of story, no more visits to this thread as it is full of idiot like you all.

Wow, I guess you didn't bother to read all the quotes/evidence/links I posted halfway up the page ;)

None of the other smokers did either. I guess the truth hurts.

no i read it, but what you quoted doesn't worth sh!t because it doesn't provide me with information defending that smoking is not a right. Smoking is a right people, get over it.
Even given the health concerns cited, you still would chose to light up in public around anyone? It's not a matter of it being a RIGHT, it's a matter of thinking about someone else other than yourself.

Yes I still would light up in public around people if I smoked. Well, this country is formed on people's rights, so it's a matter of it being right.

Even if those rights infringe upon other people? No one is telling you not to smoke for good. They are just asking you not to smoke around others that don't care for it. It's the same reason why a lot of neighborhoods and apartment complexes have noise ordinances. Just b/c you enjoy loud music doesn't mean that everyone else surrounding you wants to listen to it.

Then they can move ;) Same logic as yours. If you can ask smokers to go smoke somewhere else, they should have the right to ask you to leave ;)

Anyways man, I think this thread is getting boring. Noone will ever agree on anything so we should chill and get rest.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
Hah I was gone for 6 hours and you guys kept bitching didn't you? Well too bad. I am not gonna read all your posts you bitch ass cry babies. However even without reading it, I hope all smokers blow the smoke on your face when you are in a restaurant or another public place. End of story, no more visits to this thread as it is full of idiot like you all.

Wow, I guess you didn't bother to read all the quotes/evidence/links I posted halfway up the page ;)

None of the other smokers did either. I guess the truth hurts.

no i read it, but what you quoted doesn't worth sh!t because it doesn't provide me with information defending that smoking is not a right. Smoking is a right people, get over it.
Even given the health concerns cited, you still would chose to light up in public around anyone? It's not a matter of it being a RIGHT, it's a matter of thinking about someone else other than yourself.

Yes I still would light up in public around people if I smoked. Well, this country is formed on people's rights, so it's a matter of it being right.

Even if those rights infringe upon other people? No one is telling you not to smoke for good. They are just asking you not to smoke around others that don't care for it. It's the same reason why a lot of neighborhoods and apartment complexes have noise ordinances. Just b/c you enjoy loud music doesn't mean that everyone else surrounding you wants to listen to it.

Then they can move ;) Same logic as yours. If you can ask smokers to go smoke somewhere else, they should have the right to ask you to leave ;)

Anyways man, I think this thread is getting boring. Noone will ever agree on anything so we should chill and get rest.

So THEY should have to move b/c YOU are inconvenicing them? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. Selfish :)

You playing loud music may effect 5 of your neighbors. But THEY are the ones that should move? Puhlease, YOU are the one that would be the nuisance.
 

Turkish

Lifer
May 26, 2003
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oh well, as i said, i am a non smoker that believes smokers have right to smoke until the day that government shuts down tobacco companies. until then, this conversation is over :D :p
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Xiety
oh well, as i said, i am a non smoker that believes smokers have right to smoke until the day that government shuts down tobacco companies. until then, this conversation is over :D :p

Smoke 'em if ya got 'em ;)
 

Turkish

Lifer
May 26, 2003
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Xiety
oh well, as i said, i am a non smoker that believes smokers have right to smoke until the day that government shuts down tobacco companies. until then, this conversation is over :D :p

Smoke 'em if ya got 'em ;)

I wish :)
 

Mucman

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Oct 10, 1999
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hmm... and no seems to take note of Netopia's valid point??? Weird... It's about being polite, and taking into consideration how other people feel about the action you are performing.
 

SeaSerpent

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Sep 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: Hammer
if smokers didn't smell like ass, maybe people wouldn't discriminate

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you are pathetic ... although some smokers smell like ass, i have lots of friends/family members that smoke and not smell like ass. maybe you think this way because people that are around you smell like ass because you are an ass. you fvckin asshat discriminator....

your friends and family, in addition to being inbred retards, smell like ass then. i don't hang out with smokers, so your statement is idiotic, much like most of the other ones you've made in this thread. you probably can't smell how bad smokers smell cause you smell like sh1t. some of us practice good hygiene. maybe you and your mom should give that a try.

You suck


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PatboyX

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Aug 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mucman
hmm... and no seems to take note of Netopia's valid point??? Weird... It's about being polite, and taking into consideration how other people feel about the action you are performing.

yeah. i dont think smokers are malicious people.
everyone i know that smokes, knows they cant do it where i live but its ok in my car. but they still always ask in the car and even smokers i dont know were never particularly rude about it. i dont understand this hatred for smokers.

i think it annoys me more when i go out somewhere like a club or a concert and the people im with complain about the smoke. you knew there was going to be smoking! its just one night, its ok.
 

Thoreau

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Jan 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: gistech1978
smokers have a right to smoke
so too bad.

Now if there could only be more people in the world with your mentality =). Smokers can't be all that evil if my employer saw fit to give us a huge indoor smoking room.
 

Thoreau

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Jan 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: Hammer
if smokers didn't smell like ass, maybe people wouldn't discriminate

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rolleye.gif
you are pathetic ... although some smokers smell like ass, i have lots of friends/family members that smoke and not smell like ass. maybe you think this way because people that are around you smell like ass because you are an ass. you fvckin asshat discriminator....

your friends and family, in addition to being inbred retards, smell like ass then. i don't hang out with smokers, so your statement is idiotic, much like most of the other ones you've made in this thread. you probably can't smell how bad smokers smell cause you smell like sh1t. some of us practice good hygiene. maybe you and your mom should give that a try.

That really adds a lot to the conversation (not that my junk does either.) :D

One thing I will say though, is that insults, ranting, arguing, complaining, etc. is NOT going to cause every smoker around you to suddenly jump up and shout 'I SEEN THE LIGHT!! I NOW QUIT SMOKING!' Even if that would be a nice event.
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: love1u0
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: Hammer
if smokers didn't smell like ass, maybe people wouldn't discriminate

...
rolleye.gif
you are pathetic ... although some smokers smell like ass, i have lots of friends/family members that smoke and not smell like ass. maybe you think this way because people that are around you smell like ass because you are an ass. you fvckin asshat discriminator....

your friends and family, in addition to being inbred retards, smell like ass then. i don't hang out with smokers, so your statement is idiotic, much like most of the other ones you've made in this thread. you probably can't smell how bad smokers smell cause you smell like sh1t. some of us practice good hygiene. maybe you and your mom should give that a try.

You suck


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How do you think he knows so much about what ass smells like?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
I hate the people who huddle outside a store entrance and smoke right infront of the doors. It p!sses me off that we have to walk through all of that just becuase they refuse to walk another 10 ft away.

A lot of stores also put their ashtrays next to the entrance. Coincidence?
 

TheCorm

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I loathe them doing it around others....you wanna kill yourself slowly? go ahead! I don't wanna have to see or smell it or breathe it so do it elsewhere.
 

Hammer

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: love1u0
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: Hammer
if smokers didn't smell like ass, maybe people wouldn't discriminate

...
rolleye.gif
you are pathetic ... although some smokers smell like ass, i have lots of friends/family members that smoke and not smell like ass. maybe you think this way because people that are around you smell like ass because you are an ass. you fvckin asshat discriminator....

your friends and family, in addition to being inbred retards, smell like ass then. i don't hang out with smokers, so your statement is idiotic, much like most of the other ones you've made in this thread. you probably can't smell how bad smokers smell cause you smell like sh1t. some of us practice good hygiene. maybe you and your mom should give that a try.

You suck


rolleye.gif
How do you think he knows so much about what ass smells like?

i smelled it on your breath?
 

Thoreau

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Jan 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Secondhand smoke is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe, or cigar, and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers.
This mixture contains more than 4,000 substances, more than 40 of which are known to cause cancer in humans or animals and many of which are strong irritants.
Secondhand smoke is also called environmental tobacco smoke (ETS); exposure to secondhand smoke is called involuntary smoking, or passive smoking.
[*]The developing lungs of young children are also affected by exposure to secondhand smoke.
[*]Infants and young children whose parents smoke are among the most seriously affected by exposure to secondhand smoke, being at increased risk of lower respiratory tract infections such as pneumonia and bronchitis. EPA estimates that passive smoking is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in infants and children under 18 months of age annually, resulting in between 7,500 and 15,000 hospitalizations each year.
[*]Children exposed to secondhand smoke are also more likely to have reduced lung function and symptoms of respiratory irritation like cough, excess phlegm, and wheeze.
[*]Passive smoking can lead to buildup of fluid in the middle ear, the most common cause of hospitalization of children for an operation.
[*]Asthmatic children are especially at risk. EPA estimates that exposure to secondhand smoke increases the number of episodes and severity of symptoms in hundreds of thousands of asthmatic children. EPA estimates that between 200,000 and 1,000,000 asthmatic children have their condition made worse by exposure to secondhand smoke. Passive smoking may also cause thousands of non-asthmatic children to develop the condition each year.
[*]Exposure to secondhand smoke causes irritation of the eye, nose, and throat.
[*]Passive smoking can also irritate the lungs, leading to coughing, excess phlegm, chest discomfort, and reduced lung function.
[*]Secondhand smoke may affect the cardiovascular system, and some studies have linked exposure to secondhand smoke with the onset of chest pain.
http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/etsbro.html

Second hand smoke is a major cause of children's illness -- yet 85% of adults who smoke and who live with a child do not ensure that the child is not exposed to the smoke from their cigarettes.
How smokers' beliefs differ from non-smokers'

A survey by University of Waterloo researchers showed that smokers were much less likely than non-smokers to believe that:

[*]second-hand smoke hurts non-smokers (77% to 93%)
[*]second-hand smoke caused lung cancer in non-smokers (54% to 79%)

And that they were much more likely to believe that:

[*]air pollution is a greater health risk to non-smokers than second-hand smoke (51% to 35%)
[*]people are too concerned about the effect of other people?s smoking (63% vs. 33%)
[*]evidence of the dangers of second-hand smoke is exaggerated (46% vs. 32%)
http://www.smoke-free.ca/Second-Hand-Smoke/health_kids.htm

http://quitsmoking.about.com/msub2ndh.htm?once=true&

Second-hand smoke ranks third as a major preventable cause of death behind only active smoking and alcohol.1 Second-hand smoke is the smoke that individuals breathe when they are located in the same air space as smokers. Second-hand smoke is a mixture of exhaled mainstream smoke from the tobacco user, sidestream smoke emitted from the smoldering tobacco between puffs, contaminants emitted into the air during the puff, and contaminants that diffuse through the cigarette paper and mouth end between puffs.2 Second-hand smoke is a complex mix of over 4,000 substances, of which more than 42 individual mainstream components are known to cause cancer in humans and animals, and many of which are strong irritants.3 Sidestream smoke contains many of the same substances found in mainstream smoke, including a host of carcinogenic agents.4

Smokers themselves are compromised not only from the smoke directly inhaled from tobacco use, but by second-hand smoke as they breathe in both the sidestream and mainstream smoke.

There is a need to aggressively combat this health hazard. There are segments of the population which, despite the evolution of attitudes toward open recognition of this problem, continue to put others at risk and view the problem merely as a nuisance. However, second-hand smoke is one of the major environmental health risks that society faces today, and steps can and must be taken to prevent this health hazard.
http://www.oma.org/phealth/2ndsmoke.htm

[*]Two thirds of smoke from a cigarette is not inhaled by the smoker, but enters the air around the smoker.
[*]Second-hand smoke has at least twice the nicotine and tar as the smoke inhaled by the smoker.
[*]Regular exposure to second-hand smoke increases the chances of contracting lung disease by 25% and heart disease by 10%.
[*]Second-hand smoke aggravates symptoms in people with allergies and asthma, and can cause eye, nose and throat irritations, headaches, dizziness, nausea, coughing and wheezing in otherwise healthy people.
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hecs-sesc/tobacco/facts/blueribbon/secondHand.html

Just about every fact you have there is teetering on a 'chance' of something happening. Show me some case studies where second-hand smoke HAS harmed people. Even better, show me a single death that is a direct result of second-hand smoke.

*snickers* That should keep the anti-smoker Googling for a few days.