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Where do people get this idea that in Europe everyone cycles? The car is still the primary method of transport in Britain or france. Although people are a lot more willing to walk short distances - like between stores or to the mailbox, in Europe. This could be something to do with the fact that Europeans tend to put sidewalks on the sides of roads more.
And you can't get everywhere in the US in trains because the government wasn't / isn't willing to subisdise it enough.

what are ya talkin about? we dont cycle in europe but we do not use automobiles as our priority way of transportation. we use trains + metro + our feet.
 

dpm

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Originally posted by: SammySon
Where do people get this idea that in Europe everyone cycles? The car is still the primary method of transport in Britain or france. Although people are a lot more willing to walk short distances - like between stores or to the mailbox, in Europe. This could be something to do with the fact that Europeans tend to put sidewalks on the sides of roads more. And you can't get everywhere in the US in trains because the government wasn't / isn't willing to subisdise it enough.
I'm actaully implying that the primary mode is by train. Not by cycle.

Sorry, I shouldn't have exagerated like that. But based solely on anecdotal evidence, I really don't think that that is the case.
Btw, anecdotal evidence here means that I'm British, and that I have lived in both France and America before, as well as having visited every EU country except Portugal. And Finland and sweden, come to think about it. Oh wait, I've not been to Greece either. crap
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: SammySon
Borderline lunacy is your inability to see beyond your opinion.

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: SammySon
Borderline lunacy is your inability to see beyond your opinion.

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.

Solution: Sit in non-smoking in restaraunts that offer it, or only go to non-smoking establishments. If you are in public and smoke is bothering you, move, or politely (and politeness is important) ask the smoker to move. Pretty tough to come up with solutions like that huh?
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: SammySon
Borderline lunacy is your inability to see beyond your opinion.

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.

Solution: Sit in non-smoking in restaraunts that offer it, or only go to non-smoking establishments. If you are in public and smoke is bothering you, move, or politely (and politeness is important) ask the smoker to move. Pretty tough to come up with solutions like that huh?

If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other places any different?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: SammySon
Borderline lunacy is your inability to see beyond your opinion.

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.

Solution: Sit in non-smoking in restaraunts that offer it, or only go to non-smoking establishments. If you are in public and smoke is bothering you, move, or politely (and politeness is important) ask the smoker to move. Pretty tough to come up with solutions like that huh?

If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other public places any different?
Are Resteraunts considered a Public Place? Aren't they Private entities opened to the Public? Shouldn't the owners have the right to allow smoking in their places of business?
 

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.
I don't smoke, as I've said many times before. Mabey it was in one of my posts you neglected to read.
Many, many people think that anti-segregation laws are a nuisance. Religion is a nuisance to many people too, It it weren't we wouldn't have separation of church and state right? No one has EVER died from religion right?
Video games are detrimental to a students academic health, ban them!
Name nearly anything, and there is a group of people who think its a nuisance. So what is your point?

Bottom line: Your health, is NOT my responsibility.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: NFS4

If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Politely ask them to move. If they don't then act like a turd.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other public places any different?

By public, I mean outdoors. Not sure if you meant the same thing. And every place you mentioned is typically a private place, except for maybe the school. Obviously you don't smoke in areas where smoking is prohibitted. I try to smoke away from people that aren't smoking. Standing around pissed off about some smoker being in the same area you aren't won't accomplish anything. Nor will bitching on an internet forum.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: SammySon
Borderline lunacy is your inability to see beyond your opinion.

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.

Solution: Sit in non-smoking in restaraunts that offer it, or only go to non-smoking establishments. If you are in public and smoke is bothering you, move, or politely (and politeness is important) ask the smoker to move. Pretty tough to come up with solutions like that huh?

If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other public places any different?
Are Resteraunts considered a Public Place? Aren't they Private entities opened to the Public? Shouldn't the owners have the right to allow smoking in their places of business?

You are a ridiculous capitalist pig! May Hillary Clinton sit on your face until you see the errors of your ways.
 

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: SammySon
Borderline lunacy is your inability to see beyond your opinion.

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.

Solution: Sit in non-smoking in restaraunts that offer it, or only go to non-smoking establishments. If you are in public and smoke is bothering you, move, or politely (and politeness is important) ask the smoker to move. Pretty tough to come up with solutions like that huh?

If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other public places any different?
Are Resteraunts considered a Public Place? Aren't they Private entities opened to the Public? Shouldn't the owners have the right to allow smoking in their places of business?

Maybe I shouldn't have said "public" places. My point is, there's a time and a place for everything. If you were NOT to smoke in church or at a funeral out of a matter of respect for others, why shouldn't doing the same (NOT SMOKING) at other places where people co-mingle be just as appropriate?
 

If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other places any different?
First, understand addiction, then speak of it.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: SammySon
Borderline lunacy is your inability to see beyond your opinion.

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.

Solution: Sit in non-smoking in restaraunts that offer it, or only go to non-smoking establishments. If you are in public and smoke is bothering you, move, or politely (and politeness is important) ask the smoker to move. Pretty tough to come up with solutions like that huh?

If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other public places any different?
Are Resteraunts considered a Public Place? Aren't they Private entities opened to the Public? Shouldn't the owners have the right to allow smoking in their places of business?

Maybe I shouldn't have said "public" places. My point is, there's a time and a place for everything. If you were NOT to smoke in church or at a funeral out of a matter of respect for others, why shouldn't doing the same (NOT SMOKING) at other places where people co-mingle be just as appropriate?

I don't think smoking is banned at funerals, it's just bad manners. Churchs are typically indoors, and that makes more sense. Smoking in a park, or on my deck (I don't smoke inside the house), or outside any place I may be working, etc should not be a huge deal to you or to any other person. Smokers go through a bunch of crap to help you preserve your lungs, you can try and do the same.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: SammySon
If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other places any different?
First, understand addiction, then speak of it.

Here's a thought...DON'T START!

There's a reason why my parents told me to stay away from alcohol, drugs, and cigs. I'm glad I listened to them.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: SammySon
Borderline lunacy is your inability to see beyond your opinion.

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.

Solution: Sit in non-smoking in restaraunts that offer it, or only go to non-smoking establishments. If you are in public and smoke is bothering you, move, or politely (and politeness is important) ask the smoker to move. Pretty tough to come up with solutions like that huh?

If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other public places any different?
Are Resteraunts considered a Public Place? Aren't they Private entities opened to the Public? Shouldn't the owners have the right to allow smoking in their places of business?

Maybe I shouldn't have said "public" places. My point is, there's a time and a place for everything. If you were NOT to smoke in church or at a funeral out of a matter of respect for others, why shouldn't doing the same (NOT SMOKING) at other places where people co-mingle be just as appropriate?
Because maybe the owner of the Bar or Resteraunt chooses to allow it. If we don't like it we can take our business elsewhere.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: aRCeNiTe
Smokers are the scum of the earth... Well, atleast they smell like it.

Bill
Being from New Jersey you should know what Scum Smells like!

 

Here's a thought...DON'T START!

There's a reason why my parents told me to stay away from alcohol, drugs, and cigs. I'm glad I listened to them.
Yea, I'm glad too. It made you completely ignorant to everything having to do with that part of the world.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: SammySon
Here's a thought...DON'T START!

There's a reason why my parents told me to stay away from alcohol, drugs, and cigs. I'm glad I listened to them.
Yea, I'm glad too. It made you completely ignorant to everything having to do with that part of the world.

No skin off my nose not to be addicted to either one of those substances. Why would I want to even associate with those "parts of the world?"
 

n0cmonkey

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As a note, Fayetteville AK was/is (I don't know what's going on there now) trying to ban smoking in restaraunts, bars, etc. Every business I was in down there hated the idea and was lobbying against it.
 

No skin off my nose not to be addicted to either one of those substances. Why would I want to even associate with those "parts of the world?"
Well, that's a good thing you're keeping "clean". On the other hand, it helps to know about your subject matter when you are discussing something on a forum. You are at a serious lack of knowledge on this entire subject matter.
 

Thoreau

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: SammySon
Borderline lunacy is your inability to see beyond your opinion.

Borderline lunacy is not taking responsibility for your own actions and trying to find another scapegoat to skirt past the issue at hand...second hand smoke.

Bottom Line: Second hand smoke is a nuissance to many people. If it weren't, we wouldn't have smoking/non-smoking sections in restaraunts.

Solution: Sit in non-smoking in restaraunts that offer it, or only go to non-smoking establishments. If you are in public and smoke is bothering you, move, or politely (and politeness is important) ask the smoker to move. Pretty tough to come up with solutions like that huh?

If people weren't being so RUDE in the first place by smoking up around NE1 just b/c they need a fix, we wouldn't have to resort to such solutions.

There's a time and a place for everything. You wouldn't puff a cig in a church, or at a funeral, or in a concert hall, or in the school auditoriam at your child's school play now would you?? What makes any other places any different?

Aside from an outdoor funeral, all of those locations specifically prohibit smoking. NEXT!
 

Mucman

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Ok, my view on the subject has nothing to do with the health aspects of smoking. It's your body, you can do whatever you want. If you need more health care, who cares since you are already contributing more tax dollars toward it.

What I dislike are rude people in general. These are the people who's locker is next to yours and they put the smelly gym clothes in there. The people that wear open air headphones and crank their music while on the bus. The people who bath in cologne and sit beside you on the train... It's simply a problem with manners, and thinking about others in your environment. If I did smoke I know I would be considerate around others. I already use closed design headphones that don't emit noise outside (Sennheiser HD 25 SP's). I shower once a day, and after every workout. I wear deodorant, and if I smell of anything, it's usually after shave or soap. All I ask is that smokers make the same considerations when they choose to light up, is that too much to ask?

Some examples that I found rude... people lighting up while in a line. I don't have choice to avoid them. They are standing in front of me. Smoking at a bus stop, not only is is gross for the people waiting for the bus, it's gross for the people they sit beside because they reek of smoke.