DAMMIT! I hate smokers!

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: SammySon

I'll ask this again. If your wife was pregent (or you have a newborn baby in the house) or if your kid had asthma, would you smoke around them?

If not, why? If yes, why?

If you answer no to either question, then you have no argument whatsover.

First off, I don't smoke anymore, so the answer would be "No, I wouldn't because I don't smoke anymore".
If I did still smoke, then the answer would be "Yes, I would because I'm a smoker."
Would I go out of my way to smoke in FRONT of them? Probably not. But I sure wouldn't go out of my way to NOT smoke around them.

Now, why is it if I answer "no" to either of thoes questions, then I have no argument? You didn't lay down any ground breaking information here, or present a question that makes me step back and think. Playing the child/pregnancy card is an easy way out.

Now, answer me a question. If your wife was pregnant, would you let her ride in a car?
More people die from car accidents than by smoking. So, if its SO dangerous to health, why would you subject her to that?

Please, think deeper before you try to pose a question that will trip me up.

Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?

Smoking is a necessity as well once you are addicted to it. So STFU if you are gonna base your argument on false information.

Uh no. It is not a necessity. Try again moron!

You wanna bet? Ask any lawyer about it. You'll get owned my little biatch.

Nice try Come back when you've grown up a little!

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: SammySon

I'll ask this again. If your wife was pregent (or you have a newborn baby in the house) or if your kid had asthma, would you smoke around them?

If not, why? If yes, why?

If you answer no to either question, then you have no argument whatsover.

First off, I don't smoke anymore, so the answer would be "No, I wouldn't because I don't smoke anymore".
If I did still smoke, then the answer would be "Yes, I would because I'm a smoker."
Would I go out of my way to smoke in FRONT of them? Probably not. But I sure wouldn't go out of my way to NOT smoke around them.

Now, why is it if I answer "no" to either of thoes questions, then I have no argument? You didn't lay down any ground breaking information here, or present a question that makes me step back and think. Playing the child/pregnancy card is an easy way out.

Now, answer me a question. If your wife was pregnant, would you let her ride in a car?
More people die from car accidents than by smoking. So, if its SO dangerous to health, why would you subject her to that?

Please, think deeper before you try to pose a question that will trip me up.

Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?

Smoking is a necessity as well once you are addicted to it. So STFU if you are gonna base your argument on false information.

Uh no. It is not a necessity. Try again moron!

You wanna bet? Ask any lawyer about it. You'll get owned my little biatch.

Nice try Come back when you've grown up a little!

i guess you can't face the facts.... oh well, i am sorry for you

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: SammySon

I'll ask this again. If your wife was pregent (or you have a newborn baby in the house) or if your kid had asthma, would you smoke around them?

If not, why? If yes, why?

If you answer no to either question, then you have no argument whatsover.

First off, I don't smoke anymore, so the answer would be "No, I wouldn't because I don't smoke anymore".
If I did still smoke, then the answer would be "Yes, I would because I'm a smoker."
Would I go out of my way to smoke in FRONT of them? Probably not. But I sure wouldn't go out of my way to NOT smoke around them.

Now, why is it if I answer "no" to either of thoes questions, then I have no argument? You didn't lay down any ground breaking information here, or present a question that makes me step back and think. Playing the child/pregnancy card is an easy way out.

Now, answer me a question. If your wife was pregnant, would you let her ride in a car?
More people die from car accidents than by smoking. So, if its SO dangerous to health, why would you subject her to that?

Please, think deeper before you try to pose a question that will trip me up.

Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?

Smoking is a necessity as well once you are addicted to it. So STFU if you are gonna base your argument on false information.

Uh no. It is not a necessity. Try again moron!

You wanna bet? Ask any lawyer about it. You'll get owned my little biatch.

Nice try Come back when you've grown up a little!

i guess you can't face the facts.... oh well, i am sorry for you

Go away now troll boy. Either argue the facts or stop with the insults, it's childish.

 

[BruinEd03]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
I loaned my latest C&D mag to a coworker who ended up keeping it over the weekend to read some articles, now it smells like ass.

prolly smells like ass for other reasons too

-Ed

 

Go away now troll boy. Either argue the facts or stop with the insults, it's childish.

OMG would you two stfu and stop going back and forth.
XIETY guy, it's easy to shut up schmucks like dabuddah.
DABUDDHAYou havn't posted one single piece of insight at all. You are trolling just as much as he is.

Here, to quote myself, coming from single handed experience.

Addictions are recognized by law as a necessary part of the addicts life. Usually pertains to hard drug cases, like crack, heroin, methamphetamines.
These substances are recognized as necessary for the addicts body to function in its current state. Taking them away has serious repercussions on the body and mental state of the addict. This is why addictions are treated by slowly weening them away from the substance.
The only reprecussion taking someones car or license away has, is that they have to ride the bus.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: SammySon

Go away now troll boy. Either argue the facts or stop with the insults, it's childish.

OMG would you two stfu and stop going back and forth.
XIETY guy, it's easy to shut up schmucks like dabuddah.
DABUDDHAYou havn't posted one single piece of insight at all. You are trolling just as much as he is.

Here, to quote myself, coming from single handed experience.

Addictions are recognized by law as a necessary part of the addicts life. Usually pertains to hard drug cases, like crack, heroin, methamphetamines.
These substances are recognized as necessary for the addicts body to function in its current state. Taking them away has serious repercussions on the body and mental state of the addict. This is why addictions are treated by slowly weening them away from the substance.
The only reprecussion taking someones car or license away has, is that they have to ride the bus.

ty. finally.

 

[GroundZero]

Originally posted by: murphy55d

Originally posted by: ausm

Originally posted by: Xiety
and i hate whinny biatches like you

I agree

I started smoking when it was considered cool...now we are discriminated against unfairly IMHO

Ausm

It isn't YOU I discriminate against, it's the horrible smell that eminates from you as a result of smoking that I don't like.

but, what about the stank ass stench that eminates from alot of you holier than thou non-smoking bitches?
wash your clothes once in a while, wipe your ass, take a shower, and brush your teeth.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: SammySon

Go away now troll boy. Either argue the facts or stop with the insults, it's childish.

OMG would you two stfu and stop going back and forth.
XIETY guy, it's easy to shut up schmucks like dabuddah.
DABUDDHAYou havn't posted one single piece of insight at all. You are trolling just as much as he is.

Here, to quote myself, coming from single handed experience.

Addictions are recognized by law as a necessary part of the addicts life. Usually pertains to hard drug cases, like crack, heroin, methamphetamines.
These substances are recognized as necessary for the addicts body to function in its current state. Taking them away has serious repercussions on the body and mental state of the addict. This is why addictions are treated by slowly weening them away from the substance.
The only reprecussion taking someones car or license away has, is that they have to ride the bus.

Perhaps you should actually go back and read the thread. I've posted quite a bit if you'd care to open your eyes and ears. Unfortunately, people like you and Xiety don't seem to know how to actually open their minds.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: murphy55d

Originally posted by: ausm

Originally posted by: Xiety
and i hate whinny biatches like you

I agree

I started smoking when it was considered cool...now we are discriminated against unfairly IMHO

Ausm

It isn't YOU I discriminate against, it's the horrible smell that eminates from you as a result of smoking that I don't like.

but, what about the stank ass stench that eminates from alot of you holier than thou non-smoking bitches?
wash your clothes once in a while, wipe your ass, take a shower, and brush your teeth.

I've noticed how people get defensive and insulting when they're faced with facts they can not refute.

 

[NorthRiver]

I guess I am in the minority. I smoke, and I know that it stinks, and so do I.:Q



Sorry if I offend you whiney little boys when I smoke, but it is not against the law. I am gonna quit next month, so you'll have one less person to bitch about

 

[cloude27]

Originally posted by: Blieb
Nine months, four weeks, two days, 11 hours, 54 minutes and 40 seconds. 6069 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,107.61. Life saved: 3 weeks, 1 hour, 45 minutes.

w00t to me!

congrats... my attempt is not going quite as well

 

[Turin39789]

doh, there were 3 pages

 

[NFS4]

Secondhand smoke is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe, or cigar, and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers.
This mixture contains more than 4,000 substances, more than 40 of which are known to cause cancer in humans or animals and many of which are strong irritants.
Secondhand smoke is also called environmental tobacco smoke (ETS); exposure to secondhand smoke is called involuntary smoking, or passive smoking.

[*]The developing lungs of young children are also affected by exposure to secondhand smoke.
[*]Infants and young children whose parents smoke are among the most seriously affected by exposure to secondhand smoke, being at increased risk of lower respiratory tract infections such as pneumonia and bronchitis. EPA estimates that passive smoking is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in infants and children under 18 months of age annually, resulting in between 7,500 and 15,000 hospitalizations each year.
[*]Children exposed to secondhand smoke are also more likely to have reduced lung function and symptoms of respiratory irritation like cough, excess phlegm, and wheeze.
[*]Passive smoking can lead to buildup of fluid in the middle ear, the most common cause of hospitalization of children for an operation.
[*]Asthmatic children are especially at risk. EPA estimates that exposure to secondhand smoke increases the number of episodes and severity of symptoms in hundreds of thousands of asthmatic children. EPA estimates that between 200,000 and 1,000,000 asthmatic children have their condition made worse by exposure to secondhand smoke. Passive smoking may also cause thousands of non-asthmatic children to develop the condition each year.

[*]Exposure to secondhand smoke causes irritation of the eye, nose, and throat.
[*]Passive smoking can also irritate the lungs, leading to coughing, excess phlegm, chest discomfort, and reduced lung function.
[*]Secondhand smoke may affect the cardiovascular system, and some studies have linked exposure to secondhand smoke with the onset of chest pain.

http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/etsbro.html

Second hand smoke is a major cause of children's illness -- yet 85% of adults who smoke and who live with a child do not ensure that the child is not exposed to the smoke from their cigarettes.

How smokers' beliefs differ from non-smokers'

A survey by University of Waterloo researchers showed that smokers were much less likely than non-smokers to believe that:

[*]second-hand smoke hurts non-smokers (77% to 93%)
[*]second-hand smoke caused lung cancer in non-smokers (54% to 79%)

And that they were much more likely to believe that:

[*]air pollution is a greater health risk to non-smokers than second-hand smoke (51% to 35%)
[*]people are too concerned about the effect of other people?s smoking (63% vs. 33%)
[*]evidence of the dangers of second-hand smoke is exaggerated (46% vs. 32%)

http://www.smoke-free.ca/Second-Hand-Smoke/health_kids.htm

http://quitsmoking.about.com/msub2ndh.htm?once=true&

Second-hand smoke ranks third as a major preventable cause of death behind only active smoking and alcohol.1 Second-hand smoke is the smoke that individuals breathe when they are located in the same air space as smokers. Second-hand smoke is a mixture of exhaled mainstream smoke from the tobacco user, sidestream smoke emitted from the smoldering tobacco between puffs, contaminants emitted into the air during the puff, and contaminants that diffuse through the cigarette paper and mouth end between puffs.2 Second-hand smoke is a complex mix of over 4,000 substances, of which more than 42 individual mainstream components are known to cause cancer in humans and animals, and many of which are strong irritants.3 Sidestream smoke contains many of the same substances found in mainstream smoke, including a host of carcinogenic agents.4

Smokers themselves are compromised not only from the smoke directly inhaled from tobacco use, but by second-hand smoke as they breathe in both the sidestream and mainstream smoke.

There is a need to aggressively combat this health hazard. There are segments of the population which, despite the evolution of attitudes toward open recognition of this problem, continue to put others at risk and view the problem merely as a nuisance. However, second-hand smoke is one of the major environmental health risks that society faces today, and steps can and must be taken to prevent this health hazard.

http://www.oma.org/phealth/2ndsmoke.htm

[*]Two thirds of smoke from a cigarette is not inhaled by the smoker, but enters the air around the smoker.
[*]Second-hand smoke has at least twice the nicotine and tar as the smoke inhaled by the smoker.
[*]Regular exposure to second-hand smoke increases the chances of contracting lung disease by 25% and heart disease by 10%.
[*]Second-hand smoke aggravates symptoms in people with allergies and asthma, and can cause eye, nose and throat irritations, headaches, dizziness, nausea, coughing and wheezing in otherwise healthy people.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hecs-sesc/tobacco/facts/blueribbon/secondHand.html

 

[stev0]

cry more noob

 

[Armyranger4ever]

What do you all think of the ban on smoking in public places? Some of you have stated that as long as it's not in your vehicle/house/area, it's fine. Do you think smoking should be banned in public places? Parks, bars, restaurants, etc....

 

[Turin39789]

not worth my time

 

[Red]

Both my parents smoke and have smoked since they were young. My mother smoked very lightly when she was pregnant with me, but still smoked and drank.

Fortunately, I do not suffer any obvious side effects of second hand smoke at all... I am naturally above average health, my lungs are strong, I don't have asthma or stunted growth or anything like that. However, because I have been using computers so often (daily) for the past 10 or so years, my eyes dry very easily, and combined with two parents smoking downstairs (on the main floor) my eyes have been hella-red before and the doctor looked straight at my mom and told her she needs to start smoking outside.

My mother got very defensive and said the only reason my eyes are red is because I use the computer @ work and home. The doctor said my eyelids has an "environmental" stress such as an allergy or smoking. I don't have an allergies so that kind of narrowed it down.

I don't smoke and I hate the smell... but because I live with the smokers, the only time I smell cigarette smoke is if I'm out of the house for a day or two and come back... I especially hate certain cigarette smells (my dad smokes winston and that smell that irks me). And when people do a big draw of smoke and then walk into a public place, you can smell them like 10 feet away.... so it must be really bad for someone who doesn't live in a smokers home.

 

[Red Dawn]

I enjoy an occasional Cigar, especially when it annoys Holier than Thou sniveling little bitches.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I enjoy an occasional Cigar, especially when it annoys Holier than Thou sniveling little bitches.

And you probably do it in the privacy of your own home instead of out in public. Two of my housemates enjoy cigars as well. But they have the common sense to go out on the back porch and smoke rather than do it inside the house.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Armyranger4ever
What do you all think of the ban on smoking in public places? Some of you have stated that as long as it's not in your vehicle/house/area, it's fine. Do you think smoking should be banned in public places? Parks, bars, restaurants, etc....

Definitely in resteraunts. I don't want that nasty crap around the food that I'll be eating. I have no problems with Parks or any outdoors type place as long as they stay the hell away from me or any other non smokers.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Both my parents smoke and have smoked since they were young. My mother smoked very lightly when she was pregnant with me, but still smoked and drank.

Fortunately, I do not suffer any obvious side effects of second hand smoke at all... I am naturally above average health, my lungs are strong, I don't have asthma or stunted growth or anything like that. However, because I have been using computers so often (daily) for the past 10 or so years, my eyes dry very easily, and combined with two parents smoking downstairs (on the main floor) my eyes have been hella-red before and the doctor looked straight at my mom and told her she needs to start smoking outside.

My mother got very defensive and said the only reason my eyes are red is because I use the computer @ work and home. The doctor said my eyelids has an "environmental" stress such as an allergy or smoking. I don't have an allergies so that kind of narrowed it down.

I don't smoke and I hate the smell... but because I live with the smokers, the only time I smell cigarette smoke is if I'm out of the house for a day or two and come back... I especially hate certain cigarette smells (my dad smokes winston and that smell that irks me). And when people do a big draw of smoke and then walk into a public place, you can smell them like 10 feet away.... so it must be really bad for someone who doesn't live in a smokers home.

You're right about that. My wife is really allergic to cig smoke and she gets really sick if she smells it. Eating at restaurants tends to be difficult because of this. It's really hard to enjoy your food when you're sick to your stomach. I've asked people before if they wouldn't mind smoking somewhere else and they've been polite and have put out their cigs before. But there are also the ones that get defensive and become asinine when asked to put out their cigs. Even when they can see it's making my wife sick.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I enjoy an occasional Cigar, especially when it annoys Holier than Thou sniveling little bitches.

And you probably do it in the privacy of your own home instead of out in public. Two of my housemates enjoy cigars as well. But they have the common sense to go out on the back porch and smoke rather than do it inside the house.

I light up the pipe in the few restaurants that allow it. Anyone who doesn't like it is more than welcome to visit one of the umpteen bajillion places that don't allow cigars/pipes.
As if the smoke from cigars/pipes is somehow worse than cigarette smoke.
At least pipe tobacco is entirely tobacco

 

[Geekbabe]

Nagging seems to cause a lot of fatalities from what I've seen,far more dangerous than smoking

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I enjoy an occasional Cigar, especially when it annoys Holier than Thou sniveling little bitches.

And you probably do it in the privacy of your own home instead of out in public. Two of my housemates enjoy cigars as well. But they have the common sense to go out on the back porch and smoke rather than do it inside the house.

I light up the pipe in the few restaurants that allow it. Anyone who doesn't like it is more than welcome to visit one of the umpteen bajillion places that don't allow cigars/pipes.
As if the smoke from cigars/pipes is somehow worse than cigarette smoke.
At least pipe tobacco is entirely tobacco

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I enjoy an occasional Cigar, especially when it annoys Holier than Thou sniveling little bitches.

And you probably do it in the privacy of your own home instead of out in public. Two of my housemates enjoy cigars as well. But they have the common sense to go out on the back porch and smoke rather than do it inside the house.

I light up the pipe in the few restaurants that allow it. Anyone who doesn't like it is more than welcome to visit one of the umpteen bajillion places that don't allow cigars/pipes.
As if the smoke from cigars/pipes is somehow worse than cigarette smoke.
At least pipe tobacco is entirely tobacco