DAMMIT! I hate smokers!

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dabuddha

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Originally posted by: SammySon
I'll ask this again. If your wife was pregent (or you have a newborn baby in the house) or if your kid had asthma, would you smoke around them?

If not, why? If yes, why?

If you answer no to either question, then you have no argument whatsover.
First off, I don't smoke anymore, so the answer would be "No, I wouldn't because I don't smoke anymore".
If I did still smoke, then the answer would be "Yes, I would because I'm a smoker."
Would I go out of my way to smoke in FRONT of them? Probably not. But I sure wouldn't go out of my way to NOT smoke around them.

Now, why is it if I answer "no" to either of thoes questions, then I have no argument? You didn't lay down any ground breaking information here, or present a question that makes me step back and think. Playing the child/pregnancy card is an easy way out.

Now, answer me a question. If your wife was pregnant, would you let her ride in a car?
More people die from car accidents than by smoking. So, if its SO dangerous to health, why would you subject her to that?

Please, think deeper before you try to pose a question that will trip me up.

Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?
 

Turkish

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: gistech1978
Originally posted by: NFS4
I'll ask this again. If your wife was pregent (or you have a newborn baby in the house) or if your kid had asthma, would you smoke around them?

If not, why? If yes, why?

If you answer no to either question, then you have no argument whatsover.

no and no
and i do have an argument. i am a very respectful to others when i smoke. and when the time comes for me and my GF to have a child, the smoking will stop.
if im outside with family or friends, cowokers who dont smoke, i stand away from them and try not to be downwind from them, im not going to stop smoking because they are outside with me. but im not going to be standing right next to them. if im trapped in a stuck elevator for 20 mins, im not going to smoke. believe it or not, you can smoke and still be respectful. and i either throw my butts away or in an ashtray. so, i might be in the minority. but ppl like me arent your problems. BUT...if im in a casino, bar or restaraunt where smoking is allowed. TS. im going to smoke.

So that means you're not very respectful of others when you smoke.

no it means you are an idiot
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broon

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Second hand smoke has not been proven to cause any health risks. This issue is just as bad as abortion
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: gistech1978
Originally posted by: NFS4
I'll ask this again. If your wife was pregent (or you have a newborn baby in the house) or if your kid had asthma, would you smoke around them?

If not, why? If yes, why?

If you answer no to either question, then you have no argument whatsover.

no and no
and i do have an argument. i am a very respectful to others when i smoke. and when the time comes for me and my GF to have a child, the smoking will stop.
if im outside with family or friends, cowokers who dont smoke, i stand away from them and try not to be downwind from them, im not going to stop smoking because they are outside with me. but im not going to be standing right next to them. if im trapped in a stuck elevator for 20 mins, im not going to smoke. believe it or not, you can smoke and still be respectful. and i either throw my butts away or in an ashtray. so, i might be in the minority. but ppl like me arent your problems. BUT...if im in a casino, bar or restaraunt where smoking is allowed. TS. im going to smoke.

So that means you're not very respectful of others when you smoke.

no it means you are an idiot
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Nice! Can't argue with the facts so you turn to insults. Try doing what I asked you to do in a previous post. Grow up!
 

Turkish

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: SammySon
I'll ask this again. If your wife was pregent (or you have a newborn baby in the house) or if your kid had asthma, would you smoke around them?

If not, why? If yes, why?

If you answer no to either question, then you have no argument whatsover.
First off, I don't smoke anymore, so the answer would be "No, I wouldn't because I don't smoke anymore".
If I did still smoke, then the answer would be "Yes, I would because I'm a smoker."
Would I go out of my way to smoke in FRONT of them? Probably not. But I sure wouldn't go out of my way to NOT smoke around them.

Now, why is it if I answer "no" to either of thoes questions, then I have no argument? You didn't lay down any ground breaking information here, or present a question that makes me step back and think. Playing the child/pregnancy card is an easy way out.

Now, answer me a question. If your wife was pregnant, would you let her ride in a car?
More people die from car accidents than by smoking. So, if its SO dangerous to health, why would you subject her to that?

Please, think deeper before you try to pose a question that will trip me up.

Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?

Smoking is a necessity as well once you are addicted to it. So STFU if you are gonna base your argument on false information.
 

Turkish

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: gistech1978
Originally posted by: NFS4
I'll ask this again. If your wife was pregent (or you have a newborn baby in the house) or if your kid had asthma, would you smoke around them?

If not, why? If yes, why?

If you answer no to either question, then you have no argument whatsover.

no and no
and i do have an argument. i am a very respectful to others when i smoke. and when the time comes for me and my GF to have a child, the smoking will stop.
if im outside with family or friends, cowokers who dont smoke, i stand away from them and try not to be downwind from them, im not going to stop smoking because they are outside with me. but im not going to be standing right next to them. if im trapped in a stuck elevator for 20 mins, im not going to smoke. believe it or not, you can smoke and still be respectful. and i either throw my butts away or in an ashtray. so, i might be in the minority. but ppl like me arent your problems. BUT...if im in a casino, bar or restaraunt where smoking is allowed. TS. im going to smoke.

So that means you're not very respectful of others when you smoke.

no it means you are an idiot
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Nice! Can't argue with the facts so you turn to insults. Try doing what I asked you to do in a previous post. Grow up!

read my post above, my argument is there. now quit crying or just kill yourself if you don't like people smoking around you.
 

broon

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Smokers help support good social programs like helping needy children by paying taxes on smokes. If people quit smoking then they don't care about children. Non smokers also don't want to help children. Non smokers are careless heartless evil people.
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: NFS4
As long as they don't smoke in public or in my car, I don't give a rats ass. Let them do that crap at home.

Reminds me of that pic that an ATOT member posted last year I think. I think he said that his mom smoked, so he took a picture of a room in the house. He took down a picture that was hanging on the wall and the color of the wall where the picture was was about 5 shades lighter than the surround area.

Imagine what that crap does to your lungs
I have copies of those, actually:

Pic 1
Pic 2

And no, it's not the lighting(we determined that when it was originally posted), the walls really are that yellow.

PS Uni just put in a new rule: no smoking within 40ft of a residence hall. Ha! :p
 

Ausm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: vi_edit
heres a solution.
dont go to the smokey bar...is this that hard to figure out?

Read my post. I DON'T GO TO BARS ANYMORE because of smokers.

I go to smoke free establishments or to bars that have physical seperation between the smoking & non smoking sections. But it irks me because there are many bars that have excellent food that I would LIKE to patronize, but don't because of the smoke.

I they should have smokers only bars and non-smoking bars then it is fair to both parties involved. The sweeping no-smoking laws that our local goverments make is total discrimination.

Ausm
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: NFS4
As long as they don't smoke in public or in my car, I don't give a rats ass. Let them do that crap at home.

Reminds me of that pic that an ATOT member posted last year I think. I think he said that his mom smoked, so he took a picture of a room in the house. He took down a picture that was hanging on the wall and the color of the wall where the picture was was about 5 shades lighter than the surround area.

Imagine what that crap does to your lungs
I have copies of those, actually:

Pic 1
Pic 2

And no, it's not the lighting(we determined that when it was originally posted), the walls really are that yellow.

PS Uni just put in a new rule: no smoking within 40ft of a residence hall. Ha! :p

LOL, those are the pics :D
 

Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?
Driving a car is NOT a necessity. Mabey growing up spolied made you think that. Driving a car is a privilege.

 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: SammySon
Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?
Driving a car is NOT a necessity. Mabey growing up spolied made you think that. Driving a car is a privilege.

What's necessary about smoking? It serves NO purpose.
 

gistech1978

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btw the sun is far more dangerous than second hand smoke could ever be.
are you going to let your little children play outside in shorts and short sleeves, knowing full well the sun causes cancer?

are we going to sue and outlaw the sun from shining?
are we going to make everyone have an umbrella and smather sunblock on any exposed part of your body, because our nanny state govt passes a law?

it causes cancer! its dangerous to your health.

write your congressman, lets do away with those dangerous UV rays from the sun.

 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: SammySon
Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?
Driving a car is NOT a necessity. Mabey growing up spolied made you think that. Driving a car is a privilege.

What's necessary about smoking? It serves NO purpose.

Maybe to you. I smoke pipes and cigars and I get a good deal of personal enjoyment out of it.

If "purpose" was a criterion, we'd have to put an end to an awful lot of activities.
 

Turkish

Lifer
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: SammySon
Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?
Driving a car is NOT a necessity. Mabey growing up spolied made you think that. Driving a car is a privilege.

What's necessary about smoking? It serves NO purpose.

again, another
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to you...
smoking may not serve to you, however it serves to people that enjoys it.
according to your view point, posting on atot serves NO purpose either....
 

amnesiac

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Oct 13, 1999
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REASONS I HATE SMOKERS:

1. They think the world is their ashtray. News for you, asswipe: Those cigarette butts you toss on the curb don't just magically disappear. I have not seen ONE SINGLE SMOKER who disposes of all his/her butts correctly in an ashtray.

2. They figure that as long as they're not directly blowing smoke into someone's face, no one cares. Uh, hello? Where do you think the smoke goes? Oh, that's right, it disperses over a wide area, spreads with the air current, and pollutes the ENTIRE ROOM. You want to smoke, GO OUTSIDE, AND SMOKE DOWNWIND.

3. Careless parents. I knew this one girl who had a 2 year old kid (friend's ex-wife's sister). Anyway we were in her hotel room before the wedding, and she was chain smoking - in an unventilated hotel room - with her kid playing in a crib in the middle. I wanted to pop her head off like a cork.

4. Hygiene. Have you ever kissed a smoker? BLECH. Not only does their breath reek, but so do all their worldly possession, their car, their clothes, and their house. Smokers tend to argue against this, but that's because they're so busy REEKING that they can't tell.

 

What's necessary about smoking? It serves NO purpose.
I never said, nor implied smoking is a necessity.

Addictions are recognized by law as a necessary part of the addicts life. Usually pertains to hard drug cases, like crack, heroin, methamphetamines.
These substances are recognized as necessary for the addicts body to function in its current state. Taking them away has serious repercussions on the body and mental state of the addict. This is why addictions are treated by slowly weening them away from the substance.
The only reprecussion taking someones car or license away has, is that they have to ride the bus.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: SammySon
Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?
Driving a car is NOT a necessity. Mabey growing up spolied made you think that. Driving a car is a privilege.

What's necessary about smoking? It serves NO purpose.

I am sorry but the utter ignorance of this comment blows me away. If you have never been addicted you could not begin to comprehend what it means to those people. That is why they get highly offended mass movement of smoker discrimination and having the goverment tell them how to live their lives without even considering their views when making sweeping no-smoking laws.

Ausm
 

broon

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What's necessary about smoking? It serves NO purpose.

Actually it does. The tax money that it generates provides health care to children who don't have it. I say again, smokers take care of those children. Non smokers are heartless and don't care about those children. Smokers are heros.
 

Jeff7181

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This is funny. I wish it was ok to discriminate against anyone... there's a few times at college I would have liked to tell someone to go stand outside the classroom because he smelled like ass. But that would have been racism, cause he was arab and it's his religion or something that causes him to emit that odor.
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nitsuj3580

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Originally posted by: gistech1978
Originally posted by: NFS4
I'll ask this again. If your wife was pregent (or you have a newborn baby in the house) or if your kid had asthma, would you smoke around them?

If not, why? If yes, why?

If you answer no to either question, then you have no argument whatsover.

no and no
and i do have an argument. i am a very respectful to others when i smoke. and when the time comes for me and my GF to have a child, the smoking will stop.
if im outside with family or friends, cowokers who dont smoke, i stand away from them and try not to be downwind from them, im not going to stop smoking because they are outside with me. but im not going to be standing right next to them. if im trapped in a stuck elevator for 20 mins, im not going to smoke. believe it or not, you can smoke and still be respectful. and i either throw my butts away or in an ashtray. so, i might be in the minority. but ppl like me arent your problems. BUT...if im in a casino, bar or restaraunt where smoking is allowed. TS. im going to smoke.

well after reading through this thread, I really liked this post. As a non-smoker, I really appreciate people like yourself. Unfortunately, like you mentioned, you are in the minority. I also respect people's rights to smoke where it is allowed like in your examples. If I want to go to a bar, although I still don't like it, I will not give anyone a hard time for smoking because it's allowed. I like to go bowling and I know I will face smoke because that's what people do at bowling alleys..bowl, drink, and smoke.
 

I am sorry but the utter ignorance of this comment blows me away. If you have never been addicted you could not begin to comprehend what it means to those people. That is why they get highly offended mass movement of smoker discrimination and having the goverment tell them how to live their lives without even considering their views when making sweeping no-smoking laws.

Ausm

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What's necessary about smoking? It serves NO purpose.


Actually it does. The tax money that it generates provides health care to children who don't have it. I say again, smokers take care of those children. Non smokers are heartless and don't care about those children. Smokers are heros.
You really expect nfs to understand this?
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: broon
What's necessary about smoking? It serves NO purpose.

Actually it does. The tax money that it generates provides health care to children who don't have it. I say again, smokers take care of those children. Non smokers are heartless and don't care about those children. Smokers are heros.

Your statement is ridiculous....non-smokers are tax payers too and I am most positive that smokers really don't like they way you patronize them.

If the US Goverment was a business it would have been bankrupt a loooooong time ago.

Ausm
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: SammySon
Driving a car can be a necessity. Smoking is NOT Anyone that believes it is, is an idiot. Try using a better analogy, mmkay?
Driving a car is NOT a necessity. Mabey growing up spolied made you think that. Driving a car is a privilege.

What's necessary about smoking? It serves NO purpose.
It gives those here who don't smoke an opportunity to tell everybody that they actually know what Ass smells like from their Homosexual adventures.