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Covid epidemic blowing up right now in China

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sdifox said:
Well, Chinese isolationism caused them to lag behind scientific research. Kind of hard to fight western imperialism without cutting edge weapons. China was mistreated for sure, but they weren't the only ones. The CCP just likes to fan the flame and paint everyone else as the enemy while they are the ones causing the misery.

Throw in universal corruption and even civilian efforts to help the Chinese people are being thwarted. There's been reports of widespread customs seizure of acetaminophen and ibuprofen shipment and the drugs are then sold by the custom officers for huge profit.

There are reports of pharmacies telling people they have no tylenol but the shelves are fully stocked.


Fucking North Korea banned Chinese travellers.
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Why didn't they just steal the tech like they always have.
 
purbeast0 said:
IMO we're just going to have to live with it from now on. I honestly am starting to wonder why we have this special case for covid now where we have to test, take different precautions, etc. Like, why can't people, whenever they feel sick, just not go out and around other people? Why do we have to make covid special now that it's mutated to not be as bad as it used to be?
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COVID is still really bad, and still one of the leading causes of death in the US. It's probably going to have to kill off susceptible humans at a high rate for at least a few more generations before it drops to like flu level danger in our species. And there are really no precautions in the US. I stopped wearing masks since no one else where I'm at wears them and masks only protect others from droplets I exhale, they do jack shit to keep me from breathing in someone else's droplets or even worse if the virus has become aerosolized by say the droplets they were in having evaporated.
 
Fenixgoon said:
Up on my vacation in northern Sweden, I caught a totally-not-covid cold (almost identical symptoms but tested negative twice).
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It was funny in April I caught what I guess ended up being a cold, but it completely took my sense of smell. I could take a big whiff of a huge bottle of vinegar an inch under my nose and nothing. I drank hot sauce and only felt the heat but couldn't taste anything. Made a bowl of ramen and couldn't tell the difference between just noodles and water vs having the seasoning in it. Couldn't taste anything whatsoever when brushing my teeth. My shit didn't stink. But I tested negative twice on the PCR, absolutely could not believe it.

In December 2020 I had a really scratchy throat and nasty congestion with constant coughing and figured for sure it was COVID, especially since a ton of close contacts had just tested positive. And yet tested negative twice on PCR, turned out it was this disgusting cedar pollen we get in December through February. Then about a month later the very same symptoms came back and thought ok probably cedar pollen, nope this time tested positive on PCR haha. Now every December through February in San Antonio we get to play the is it cedar pollen or is it COVID guessing game.
 
sdifox said:
The CCP just likes to fan the flame and paint everyone else as the enemy while they are the ones causing the misery.
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Well both are true. Seems like their history has left them with a large reservoir of national resentment that the CCP can tap into and turn off and on according to the political requirements of the moment.

Now I think of it, not sure it's vastly different to how British Imperial pride or American exceptionalism gets manipulated to political ends.

Different kind of national sentiment (China seems more about resentment and a feeling of "we don't get no respect" than the more open arrogance of the Imperialist West), and in China it seems a bit more widely-distributed across the population, but, as with Brexit, or the hysteria around CRT, there's always _something_ that can be employed to direct the population in the desired direction.
 
China's accounting of COVID-19 cases and deaths are laughable.
Yesterday they said they had ONE Covid death during their surge in covid cases. WTF?
They had 9,308 cases and one death.
www.worldometers.info

Coronavirus Update (Live): 138,024,148 Cases and 2,972,039 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
During the US peak we had 300-400K cases a day and for awhile our peak was 4,000 deaths/day

We know we cannot trust them to be straightforward and honest about anything related to Covid.
Their criteria for a death to be counted as a Covid death requires this:
"Chinese health officials have said only deaths caused by pneumonia and respiratory failure in patients who had the virus are classified as COVID deaths. "
"Yet disease experts outside China have said its approach would miss several other widely recognised types of potentially fatal COVID complications, from blood clots to heart attacks as well as sepsis and kidney failure. "

We know there are many other classifications of death that are directly Covid caused. China will not look at the others. With bodies piling up morgues
funeral homes as they cannot cremate them fast enough, estimates are the 9,000 deaths/ day are being caused by Covid.
www.reuters.com

China defends its COVID response after WHO, Biden concerns

China defended on Thursday its handling of its raging COVID-19 outbreak after U.S. President Joe Biden voiced concern and the World Health Organisation (WHO) said Beijing was under-reporting virus deaths.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Estimates are at least 1M people in China will die from Covid.

Again ONE covid death was reported yesterday by China
 
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Pens1566 said:
This will ripple ...
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Yes indeed.

China's new Covid surge is crippling the world's most important factories and biggest ports (cnbc.com)

  • Freight booking cancellations are increasing at the ports of Shanghai and Shenzhen as “factories cannot operate properly due to a lot of workers getting Covid.”
  • Congestion is also building off of the Ports of Ningbo and Qingdao as well, per Chinese logistics company HLS.
  • Logistics managers are warning of very soft volume after the Lunar New Year with canceled or delayed bookings for the 2nd half of January and early February.
 
hal2kilo said:
Yes indeed.

China's new Covid surge is crippling the world's most important factories and biggest ports (cnbc.com)

  • Freight booking cancellations are increasing at the ports of Shanghai and Shenzhen as “factories cannot operate properly due to a lot of workers getting Covid.”
  • Congestion is also building off of the Ports of Ningbo and Qingdao as well, per Chinese logistics company HLS.
  • Logistics managers are warning of very soft volume after the Lunar New Year with canceled or delayed bookings for the 2nd half of January and early February.
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Yikes, here we go again. The same, but different.
 
China now saying 60,000 people have died since they changed their COVID policies. Which, in my mind, means the real number is likely larger still.

Leaked minutes from a Dec. 21 meeting of the National Health Commission, verified by The Wall Street Journal, show that China’s top health officials believed that almost 250 million people had been infected in the first 20 days of the month
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www.wsj.com

China Says 60,000 Have Died of Covid Since Controls Were Lifted

Report marks first time Beijing has accounted for the toll of the current Omicron wave.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com

42% positive on a more recent China to Italy flight
arstechnica.com

Amid China’s massive COVID wave, 42% of people on one flight tested positive

Another reminder to keep those masks on during flights.
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blackangst1 said:
Ill start by saying on this board Tucker and Veritas arent popular. I acknowledge that. However, this came across my news aggregator, and I think Tucker makes good points. One of things covered is whats called gain of function which is described here: Gain-of-function research - Wikipedia

I would ask you put your biases aside and watch the video. Its good info,

TUCKER CARLSON: If you really want to understand how powerful Big Pharma is, consider this (msn.com)
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Correction: Tucker STARTED with some good points-ones that were basically common sense and widely known (like the US allowing pharma to mass advertise) but then took a huge plunge and off a cliff, claiming a Project Vertas "expose" of big pharma and COVID vaccines was gospel truth and exposed some sort of huge conspiracy. Sorry, but Veritas is well known for falsifying and gross distortions and carries zero credibility.
 
Had Covid for the confirmed 3rd/possibly 4th time last week. This time had a lot more coughing and congestion but no fever and milder fatigue/“brain fog” symptoms. Not sure where I caught it, but definitely spread it around at a memorial service I attended same day I started feeling symptoms—at least 6 other people I know got it afterwards.

At this point, we just gotta hope vaccines can keep up with variants. Nobody’s gonna walk around masked forever—at some point you run the risk of permanently weakening your immune system if you’re forever masked in public.
 
UNCjigga said:
Had Covid for the confirmed 3rd/possibly 4th time last week. This time had a lot more coughing and congestion but no fever and milder fatigue/“brain fog” symptoms. Not sure where I caught it, but definitely spread it around at a memorial service I attended same day I started feeling symptoms—at least 6 other people I know got it afterwards.

At this point, we just gotta hope vaccines can keep up with variants. Nobody’s gonna walk around masked forever—at some point you run the risk of permanently weakening your immune system if you’re forever masked in public.
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Just gimme the updated shot every year. I don't care and already take one for the flu.
 
blackangst1 said:
Ill start by saying on this board Tucker and Veritas arent popular. I acknowledge that. However, this came across my news aggregator, and I think Tucker makes good points. One of things covered is whats called gain of function which is described here: Gain-of-function research - Wikipedia

I would ask you put your biases aside and watch the video. Its good info,

TUCKER CARLSON: If you really want to understand how powerful Big Pharma is, consider this (msn.com)
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They are both Garbage.
 
I don't understand the obsession with the fairly dubious lab leak (with it's shifting echo chamber narrative not driven by evidence, but by new, empty claims) compared to the predominantly supported "xenogenic origin starting in a wet market".

Both are really bad, and I'd say the latter is pretty fucking damning on its own, given previous outbreaks and the likely origins of the original SARS outbreak. Like, you knew wet markets were a problem, but you continued to allow their proliferation and under-regulation.
 
blackangst1 said:
Ill start by saying on this board Tucker and Veritas arent popular. I acknowledge that. However, this came across my news aggregator, and I think Tucker makes good points. One of things covered is whats called gain of function which is described here: Gain-of-function research - Wikipedia

I would ask you put your biases aside and watch the video. Its good info,

TUCKER CARLSON: If you really want to understand how powerful Big Pharma is, consider this (msn.com)
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Not this shit again.
 
Thump553 said:
Correction: Tucker STARTED with some good points-ones that were basically common sense and widely known (like the US allowing pharma to mass advertise) but then took a huge plunge and off a cliff, claiming a Project Vertas "expose" of big pharma and COVID vaccines was gospel truth and exposed some sort of huge conspiracy. Sorry, but Veritas is well known for falsifying and gross distortions and carries zero credibility.
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So basically some effective propaganda that someone like blackangst will fall for hook line and sinker. Mix a little truth in at the start, establish some credibility and then deliver the lie.
 
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