Cops Raid FLDS Compound in Texas

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Again you have no idea what you are talking about.

It is in ON GOING INVESTIGATION that started LESS THAN A WEEK AGO.

Incorrect. The investigation would have been ongoing for months if not years (I would bet on at least a year). This is merely the first overt action.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: eleison
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Witch hunts!!!.. even with the informants and the illegal warrants, all they have is a bed!!!! Ridiculous!!! No evidence that a 12 year old got raped here.. if so where is the proof.. touting a bed does not count!!! what is happening here is a travesty for the kids involved and the government trying to justify what they are doing.

http://www.11alive.com/assetpo...olygamy_250_040708.jpg

hrm, what about the 16 year olds with 4 children.
Or the 14 year old with 2 children.
You think they got that way through divine influence ?

If they have proof then convict.. all they have now is a bed...

Maybe they're waiting for an appropriate venue - like, for instance, the initial hearing - to display evidence, instead of spewing out gory details of incest and sexual exploitation of minors on the six-o-clock news? I don't get the rush to declare guilt or innocence two days into this affair. You're pretty obviously not a neutral party.

In other cases of abuse (Elizabeth Smart, etc.), where there is a preponderance of evidence, the government officials had no compunction with releasing or leaking details and information regarding the alleged abuses -- the only thing that were confidential were the names of the abused because they were young. But yet in this case, while the names are still confidential, there is no evidence except for the bed which they repeatedly tout as the "smoking gun" through the media.. why is this so?

Looks like they don't have any evidence... and they are trying desperately to find a reason to justify herding people like cattle... trying to find excuses for the surprise raid -- the witch hunt.

Neutrality is based on evidence.. there is none here...

When a young boy or girl comes forward and alleges that they were forced to have sex with older men, it immediately triggers an investigation by authorities. In this case it prompted a massive raid because authorities already were wary of what was going on at the 'retreat'.

I don't understand what the hell your problem is - there are plenty of allegations that these people are raping and mentally abusing young people and yet you seem to be standing arm in arm with them, defending them from the 'big bad government'.

Sorry, the US has plenty of tolerance for people of different beliefs, but there is no place and should be no place for people who rape children.

AND, if the government is wrong and there is no rape, then that will become clear very fast and the children will be returned.

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber


When a young boy or girl comes forward and alleges that they were forced to have sex with older men, it immediately triggers an investigation by authorities. In this case it prompted a massive raid because authorities already were wary of what was going on at the 'retreat'.

I don't understand what the hell your problem is - there are plenty of allegations that these people are raping and mentally abusing young people and yet you seem to be standing arm in arm with them, defending them from the 'big bad government'.

Sorry, the US has plenty of tolerance for people of different beliefs, but there is no place and should be no place for people who rape children.

AND, if the government is wrong and there is no rape, then that will become clear very fast and the children will be returned.

There's no evidence of 12 year olds getting raped by anyone here. The government has 4 years to find evidence, and they don't have anything.

My problem is not bringing harden criminals to justice.. no.. vile criminals should go to jail.. my problem is the public (specifically, some people on this form) are willing to prosecute others without evidence or proof. How long have the women and children been detained without charges? Remember the Duke case -- travesty of justice, but the public and the media were willing to crucify those people.

hearsay does not constitute proof. Charge them with something or end this charade and let the kids and their mothers free.

Obviously, if we want to prosecute these people based on hearsay, rumors, innuendos, etc. We can.. but lets call it what its is.. its a witch hunt by the government.


http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/n...-claim-86908-20358684/
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/56319
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chic...x.php?cp=1&si=0#artanc

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber


When a young boy or girl comes forward and alleges that they were forced to have sex with older men, it immediately triggers an investigation by authorities. In this case it prompted a massive raid because authorities already were wary of what was going on at the 'retreat'.

I don't understand what the hell your problem is - there are plenty of allegations that these people are raping and mentally abusing young people and yet you seem to be standing arm in arm with them, defending them from the 'big bad government'.

Sorry, the US has plenty of tolerance for people of different beliefs, but there is no place and should be no place for people who rape children.

AND, if the government is wrong and there is no rape, then that will become clear very fast and the children will be returned.

There's no evidence of 12 year olds getting raped by anyone here. The government has 4 years to find evidence, and they don't have anything.

My problem is not bringing harden criminals to justice.. no.. vile criminals should go to jail.. my problem is the public (specifically, some people on this form) are willing to prosecute others without evidence or proof. How long have the women and children been detained without charges? Remember the Duke case -- travesty of justice, but the public and the media were willing to crucify those people.

hearsay does not constitute proof. Charge them with something or end this charade and let the kids and their mothers free.

Obviously, if we want to prosecute these people based on hearsay, rumors, innuendos, etc. We can.. but lets call it what its is.. its a witch hunt by the government.


http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/n...-claim-86908-20358684/
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/56319
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chic...x.php?cp=1&si=0#artanc

It's not a witch hunt when a girl comes forward and says she was raped by a fifty year old man, which is the evidence that initially triggered the investigation. That isn't "hearsay". You act like the police just decided, on a whim, to go and arrest a whole group of people. In reality, they had to obtain warrants, so somebody (a judge) had to agree with them.

There is no travesty of justice - NOBODY is being "prosecuted."

In this thread you've acted like this situation exists in a vacuum. The reality is that there are lots of factors at play here: first, children (who are deemed extremely vulnerable by our society) are potential at-risk. Second, this group are known polygamists. Third, they had direct testimony from a 16 year old that she had been raped.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber


When a young boy or girl comes forward and alleges that they were forced to have sex with older men, it immediately triggers an investigation by authorities. In this case it prompted a massive raid because authorities already were wary of what was going on at the 'retreat'.

I don't understand what the hell your problem is - there are plenty of allegations that these people are raping and mentally abusing young people and yet you seem to be standing arm in arm with them, defending them from the 'big bad government'.

Sorry, the US has plenty of tolerance for people of different beliefs, but there is no place and should be no place for people who rape children.

AND, if the government is wrong and there is no rape, then that will become clear very fast and the children will be returned.

There's no evidence of 12 year olds getting raped by anyone here. The government has 4 years to find evidence, and they don't have anything.

My problem is not bringing harden criminals to justice.. no.. vile criminals should go to jail.. my problem is the public (specifically, some people on this form) are willing to prosecute others without evidence or proof. How long have the women and children been detained without charges? Remember the Duke case -- travesty of justice, but the public and the media were willing to crucify those people.

hearsay does not constitute proof. Charge them with something or end this charade and let the kids and their mothers free.

Obviously, if we want to prosecute these people based on hearsay, rumors, innuendos, etc. We can.. but lets call it what its is.. its a witch hunt by the government.


http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/n...-claim-86908-20358684/
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/56319
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chic...x.php?cp=1&si=0#artanc

First of all, get your fact straight. The women and children are not being detained. They are in the hands of Child Protective Services where they are being taken care of. Like getting proper vaccination where those sex offender neglected to provide.

Any what hearsay, rumors, innuendos is it when minors from FLDS are found pregnant or having 3~4 children before age of 17? What part of it's illegal to have sex with children under 17 don't you understand and what part of it's impossible to be pregnant or have kids without having sex don't you understand.

Yeah go ahead and continue your support of those fvcker who can't get a women in the normal society and have to resort to such despicable act of forcing young children who don't know better into having sex with them.

By the way, here is an interview with the spokeswomen where she says all women are free to go, but none choose to leave the protective service. So yeah, this is another media cover up to keep public from the truth huh.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Again you have no idea what you are talking about.

It is in ON GOING INVESTIGATION that started LESS THAN A WEEK AGO.

Incorrect. The investigation would have been ongoing for months if not years (I would bet on at least a year). This is merely the first overt action.

Yeah the investigation into the cult. The state of texas has been loosely monitoring them for four years. Actual investigations into sexual abuse at the compound would have started last week with the interviewing of the females taken from the compound. Theres no real investigation until you can actually interview the victims. To say where are the charges when there are 400+ people to process is stupid.

Its going to take months to get all of this sorted out and charges levied.

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Again you have no idea what you are talking about.

It is in ON GOING INVESTIGATION that started LESS THAN A WEEK AGO.

Incorrect. The investigation would have been ongoing for months if not years (I would bet on at least a year). This is merely the first overt action.

Yeah the investigation into the cult. The state of texas has been loosely monitoring them for four years. Actual investigations into sexual abuse at the compound would have started last week with the interviewing of the females taken from the compound. Theres no real investigation until you can actually interview the victims. To say where are the charges when there are 400+ people to process is stupid.

Its going to take months to get all of this sorted out and charges levied.

So basically the government doesn't have a case even after 4 years of investigation. Only now are they trying to build their case by interviewing 400+ people when they could have done that 4 years ago.

Also as we speak right now, most of the men (if I am correct) are already let go because there are no charges. However, the children are still detained with their mothers by their side...

http://www.11alive.com/assetpo...olygamy_250_040708.jpg

Yes, the government is graciously letting the wives leave... but what type of Mother leaves her kids behind? In all respects, the mothers are also held captive.

GREAT... 4 years of investigation and there's no evidence (no audio tapes, no video, no paper docs, etc.)... Sure lets let the government hold the kids another month or several months.. .heck why not a year to see what kind of charges they can cook up -- obviously, they are grabbing at straws now... But I don't think the government is really thinking about the kids anymore. Its about how they can save face because they screwed up.

It is highly unusually for the government to call off an investigation without levying charges right after. Its usually during the investigation, people gather evidence and documentation, after the investigation, they charge the criminal... THAT IS... unless its a witch hunt.. In which, everyone is guilty without proof and they deserved to DIAF.. or be hastely labeled sex offenders.. .or get long jail sentences with a big black guy name Bubba. All we need now is a kangaroo court, some medieval torture tools and we will be all set... Yea, for mob rule!!!!

As for me, I don't think I will by be pulling out my pitchfork and torch yet. I need more proof. A mob lynching is not what I want to do when there's no evidence.

http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no9/lynching.jpg

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Again you have no idea what you are talking about.

It is in ON GOING INVESTIGATION that started LESS THAN A WEEK AGO.

Incorrect. The investigation would have been ongoing for months if not years (I would bet on at least a year). This is merely the first overt action.

Yeah the investigation into the cult. The state of texas has been loosely monitoring them for four years. Actual investigations into sexual abuse at the compound would have started last week with the interviewing of the females taken from the compound. Theres no real investigation until you can actually interview the victims. To say where are the charges when there are 400+ people to process is stupid.

Its going to take months to get all of this sorted out and charges levied.

So basically the government doesn't have a case even after 4 years of investigation. Only now are they trying to build their case by interviewing 400+ people when they could have done that 4 years ago.

Also as we speak right now, most of the men (if I am correct) are already let go because there are no charges. However, the children are still detained with their mothers by their side...

http://www.11alive.com/assetpo...olygamy_250_040708.jpg

Yes, the government is graciously letting the wives leave... but what type of Mother leaves her kids behind? In all respects, the mothers are also held captive.

GREAT... 4 years of investigation and there's no evidence (no audio tapes, no video, no paper docs, etc.)... Sure lets let the government hold the kids another month or several months.. .heck why not a year to see what kind of charges they can cook up -- obviously, they are grabbing at straws now... But I don't think the government is really thinking about the kids anymore. Its about how they can save face because they screwed up.

It is highly unusually for the government to call of an investigation without levying charges right after. Its usually during the investigation, people gather evidence and documentation, after the investigation, they charge the criminal... THIS IS... unless its a witch hunt.. In which, everyone is guilty and they deserved to DIAF.. or be hastely labeled sex offenders.. .or get long jail sentences with a big black guy name Bubba without proof. All we need now is a kangaroo court, some medieval torture tools and we will be all set... Yea, for mob rule!!!!

There wasnt a four year investigation. They loosely monitored their activities because of previous records in Utah and Arizona. Where many FLDS members are in jail for sexual abuse of children.

The proof is in the bellies of the 13-16 year olds who are pregnant. Further proof is those under 17 with multiple children. Further proof is very few of the 400+ children can give authorties the names or point out their biological parents.

Everytime Texas Rangers went out to the compound to talk to people. All the women and children were instructed to hide. And the men would refuse to talk.

Go back to your fvcking cult. No one wants you here.

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: Wreckem


There wasnt a four year investigation. They loosely monitored their activities because of previous records in Utah and Arizona. Where many FLDS members are in jail for sexual abuse of children.

The proof is in the bellies of the 13-16 year olds who are pregnant. Further proof is those under 17 with multiple children. Further proof is very few of the 400+ children can give authorties the names or point out their biological parents.

Everytime Texas Rangers went out to the compound to talk to people. All the women and children were instructed to hide. And the men would refuse to talk.

Go back to your fvcking cult. No one wants you here.

Where are these 13 (or was it 12?) year olds kids who are pregnant? You are right, that would be pretty significant proof. Why didn't the government mention this?? Because there are NONE..

Mob lynching folks!!! Oh cares what the truth is... who cares about evidence.. smile for the camera!!!

http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no9/lynching.jpg

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: eleison
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Where are these 13 (or was it 12?) year olds kids who are pregnant? You are right, that would be pretty significant proof. Why didn't the government mention this?? Because there are NONE..

Mob lynching folks!!! Oh cares what the truth is... who cares about evidence.. smile for the camera!!!

They have the teens in custody.
A 12 year old that is pregnant.
They are not going to parade her around in front of cameras so people like you can get off on it.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Wreckem


There wasnt a four year investigation. They loosely monitored their activities because of previous records in Utah and Arizona. Where many FLDS members are in jail for sexual abuse of children.

The proof is in the bellies of the 13-16 year olds who are pregnant. Further proof is those under 17 with multiple children. Further proof is very few of the 400+ children can give authorties the names or point out their biological parents.

Everytime Texas Rangers went out to the compound to talk to people. All the women and children were instructed to hide. And the men would refuse to talk.

Go back to your fvcking cult. No one wants you here.

Where are these 13 (or was it 12?) year olds kids who are pregnant? You are right, that would be pretty significant proof. Why didn't the government mention this?? Because there are NONE..

Mob lynching folks!!! Oh cares what the truth is... who cares about evidence.. smile for the camera!!!

http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no9/lynching.jpg

You say lynch mob? I say you suffer from THIS. That would explain why you can't see facts.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Wreckem


There wasnt a four year investigation. They loosely monitored their activities because of previous records in Utah and Arizona. Where many FLDS members are in jail for sexual abuse of children.

The proof is in the bellies of the 13-16 year olds who are pregnant. Further proof is those under 17 with multiple children. Further proof is very few of the 400+ children can give authorties the names or point out their biological parents.

Everytime Texas Rangers went out to the compound to talk to people. All the women and children were instructed to hide. And the men would refuse to talk.

Go back to your fvcking cult. No one wants you here.

Where are these 13 (or was it 12?) year olds kids who are pregnant? You are right, that would be pretty significant proof. Why didn't the government mention this?? Because there are NONE..

Mob lynching folks!!! Oh cares what the truth is... who cares about evidence.. smile for the camera!!!

http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no9/lynching.jpg

If, at 12 years old, I called up the police and told them my daddy was sticking his dick up my ass they'd be over to my house in a minute and have whisked me away to protective services. THEN they'd see if there was truth to my allegation.

The reason the police removed the children was for their own safety; they removed them because child abuse is one of the most sick and twisted things in this world and children need to be protected. Do their policies sometimes result in unnecessarily removing children from parents? Yes. People make mistakes. BUT their policies, in general, save lives and protect children.

There is no witch hunt here, there is no 'lynch mob', there are simply police officers trying to make sure that these children are safe and cared for. These kids live with cult members who have previously been accused (and convicted) of sex offenses. They are known polygamists.

Look, I hope this group was doing nothing wrong. I really do, but I'm also happy that the police are taking a look at what is going on there.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Wreckem


There wasnt a four year investigation. They loosely monitored their activities because of previous records in Utah and Arizona. Where many FLDS members are in jail for sexual abuse of children.

The proof is in the bellies of the 13-16 year olds who are pregnant. Further proof is those under 17 with multiple children. Further proof is very few of the 400+ children can give authorties the names or point out their biological parents.

Everytime Texas Rangers went out to the compound to talk to people. All the women and children were instructed to hide. And the men would refuse to talk.

Go back to your fvcking cult. No one wants you here.

Where are these 13 (or was it 12?) year olds kids who are pregnant? You are right, that would be pretty significant proof. Why didn't the government mention this?? Because there are NONE..

Mob lynching folks!!! Oh cares what the truth is... who cares about evidence.. smile for the camera!!!

http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no9/lynching.jpg

So your actually defending these sick excuses for human beings

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Wreckem


There wasnt a four year investigation. They loosely monitored their activities because of previous records in Utah and Arizona. Where many FLDS members are in jail for sexual abuse of children.

The proof is in the bellies of the 13-16 year olds who are pregnant. Further proof is those under 17 with multiple children. Further proof is very few of the 400+ children can give authorties the names or point out their biological parents.

Everytime Texas Rangers went out to the compound to talk to people. All the women and children were instructed to hide. And the men would refuse to talk.

Go back to your fvcking cult. No one wants you here.

Where are these 13 (or was it 12?) year olds kids who are pregnant? You are right, that would be pretty significant proof. Why didn't the government mention this?? Because there are NONE..

Mob lynching folks!!! Oh cares what the truth is... who cares about evidence.. smile for the camera!!!

http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no9/lynching.jpg

There is a GAG ORDER, the only info coming out is coming from the courts as its cleared by the judge.

They do have multiple underaged females that are pregnant, per court affidavit. There is also a sixteen year old with 4 infant children. That means shes been knocked up since 13, maybe even 12.

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

There is a GAG ORDER, the only info coming out is coming from the courts as its cleared by the judge.

They do have multiple underaged females that are pregnant, per court affidavit. There is also a sixteen year old with 4 infant children. That means shes been knocked up since 13, maybe even 12.

They have raided the compounded. They have taken the children away from the parents. But yet they still cannot find the 16 year old who accused her husband of beating her. The government also says that there was a 13 year old with 4 infant children, but still they are not able to press charges after 4 years of investigations. I smell a rat. Give me evidence. File charges...

Its not like the government has not been caught lying before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB_Hl4bcQNc

With all the available information, Its a lynching mob.
http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no9/lynching.jpg

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Wreckem

There is a GAG ORDER, the only info coming out is coming from the courts as its cleared by the judge.

They do have multiple underaged females that are pregnant, per court affidavit. There is also a sixteen year old with 4 infant children. That means shes been knocked up since 13, maybe even 12.

They have raided the compounded. They have taken the children away from the parents. But yet they still cannot find the 16 year old who accused her husband of beating her. The government also says that there was a 13 year old with 4 infant children, but still they are not able to press charges after 4 years of investigations. I smell a rat. Give me evidence. File charges...

Its not like the government has not been caught lying before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB_Hl4bcQNc

With all the available information, Its a lynching mob.
http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no9/lynching.jpg

God you are fvcking moron. Ill leave it at that.

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Wreckem

There is a GAG ORDER, the only info coming out is coming from the courts as its cleared by the judge.

They do have multiple underaged females that are pregnant, per court affidavit. There is also a sixteen year old with 4 infant children. That means shes been knocked up since 13, maybe even 12.

They have raided the compounded. They have taken the children away from the parents. But yet they still cannot find the 16 year old who accused her husband of beating her. The government also says that there was a 13 year old with 4 infant children, but still they are not able to press charges after 4 years of investigations. I smell a rat. Give me evidence. File charges...

Its not like the government has not been caught lying before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB_Hl4bcQNc

With all the available information, Its a lynching mob.
http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no9/lynching.jpg

God you are fvcking moron. Ill leave it at that.

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/m...x2500358874x2500109066

Check the video..

Because of one allegation of abuse by a 16 year old... ONE ALLEGATION which has yet not been PROVEN true -- which probably will never be proven true (even with the surprise raid and massive resources)... the state is going to take away kids from hundreds of families and put them into foster care...

YEA!!!! How would you like it if the government came and took your kids for no reasons what so ever... no proof.. no evidence.. Sad :-(

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: eleison
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/m...x2500358874x2500109066

Check the video..

Because of one allegation of abuse by a 16 year old... ONE ALLEGATION which has yet not been PROVEN true -- which probably will never be proven true (even with the surprise raid and massive resources)... the state is going to take away kids from hundreds of families and put them into foster care...

YEA!!!! How would you like it if the government came and took your kids for no reasons what so ever... no proof.. no evidence.. Sad :-(

No reasons whatsoever? Are you really that fvcking stupid or just trolling? Either way, you're wrong.

 

[GRIFFIN1]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: eleison
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/m...x2500358874x2500109066

Check the video..

Because of one allegation of abuse by a 16 year old... ONE ALLEGATION which has yet not been PROVEN true -- which probably will never be proven true (even with the surprise raid and massive resources)... the state is going to take away kids from hundreds of families and put them into foster care...

YEA!!!! How would you like it if the government came and took your kids for no reasons what so ever... no proof.. no evidence.. Sad :-(

No reasons whatsoever? Are you really that fvcking stupid or just trolling? Either way, you're wrong.

I know I don't know all the facts, but I have to agree with eleison. I think Texas has thrown the net WAY too wide in this case.

 

[piasabird]

Some of the Women or wives of FLDS and mothers are claiming they have been denied their civil rights and the custody of their children wether they were abused or not.

My take on this is most Women do not abuse children. Also just because the men abuse the children or their wives it does not make them guilty. You cant move into a neighborhood and steal all women's children for one allagetion. These people have civil rights even if you dont agree with them. Where is their advocate under the law?

Children have been forcefully stolen by the state of Texas from their mother's, mostly without proof of abuse. In all societies there are a few abusers. It does not mean all women and children were abused. Since when does the state of Texas have the right to set up prison camps and haul off citizens? This sounds like something Hitler would do.

http://www.local6.com/news/15886225/detail.html


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[Vette73]

Repost.

There is already a thread on this...


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[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: eleison
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/m...x2500358874x2500109066

Check the video..

Because of one allegation of abuse by a 16 year old... ONE ALLEGATION which has yet not been PROVEN true -- which probably will never be proven true (even with the surprise raid and massive resources)... the state is going to take away kids from hundreds of families and put them into foster care...

YEA!!!! How would you like it if the government came and took your kids for no reasons what so ever... no proof.. no evidence.. Sad :-(

No reasons whatsoever? Are you really that fvcking stupid or just trolling? Either way, you're wrong.

he isnt stupid he has a valid point. The news last night covered this and i agree, the cops did this on ONE complaint by ONE girl. It hasnt even been proven true at all, is that enough reason to rip families apart?

 

[EagleKeeper]

What should be done when an underage girl is pregnant?

The state has a responbility to ensure the welfare of the children.

If children were being abused, then the children need to be removed from such environment.

Each child needs to be checked on and tracked.

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
What should be done when an underage girl is pregnant?

The state has a responbility to ensure the welfare of the children.

If children were being abused, then the children need to be removed from such environment.

Each child needs to be checked on and tracked.

So why are these people exempt?

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Had the radio on earlier today at work. I forget if it was at 4:00 A.M. or 6:00 A.M., but I heard a blurb that there is some thought that the cops may have had someone stage the phone call so they had an excuse to go in. I didn't hear the whole thing, came in midway through it.

I haven't heard anything about this since, has there been any further comment? If there was any actual proof along those lines, one would think it would be leading the news bites at the top of every hour for the day.