Cops Raid FLDS Compound in Texas

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dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Citrix
GOOD! i was saying this all along. I hope texas gets the living shit sued out of them for rights violations.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/n...05-21-1190589243_x.htm

Texas seizure of polygamist-sect kids thrown out

SAN ANGELO, Texas ? In a ruling that could torpedo the case against the West Texas polygamist sect, a state appeals court Thursday said authorities had no right to seize more than 440 children in a raid on the splinter group's compound last month.

The Third Court of Appeals in Austin said the state failed to show the youngsters were in any immediate danger, the only grounds in Texas law for taking children from their parents without court action.

I'm sure the MSM will not cover the throw out of this grievous kidnapping by the state of Texas case as much as they did when the state raided and took the children.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: dahunan
The whole group was previously run by a guy who was molesting the girls... right?

so guilt by association trumps all laws and civil rights?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: dahunan
The whole group was previously run by a guy who was molesting the girls... right?

What you are doing is akin to pointing out a rape victim has had multiple partners.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: dahunan
The whole group was previously run by a guy who was molesting the girls... right?

so guilt by association trumps all laws and civil rights?


If it is discovered that girls there were married away to old men who got them pregnant etc.. then what?


 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
The whole group was previously run by a guy who was molesting the girls... right?

What you are doing is akin to pointing out a rape victim has had multiple partners.

I am not sure I understand where you are going with this... I am saying that there are girls there who were being forced to have sex with men in the comound... and that it is highly unlikely it never happened again even after he left

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
The whole group was previously run by a guy who was molesting the girls... right?

What you are doing is akin to pointing out a rape victim has had multiple partners.

I am not sure I understand where you are going with this... I am saying that there are girls there who were being forced to have sex with men in the comound... and that it is highly unlikely it never happened again even after he left

That is exactly where I was going with this. You pointing out the former leader is rotting in jail for crimes and thus there has to be guilt somewhere. That is no different than claiming previous consensual encounters or a rape victim invalidates a rape charge. Both use prior acts to render a decision.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
The whole group was previously run by a guy who was molesting the girls... right?

What you are doing is akin to pointing out a rape victim has had multiple partners.

I am not sure I understand where you are going with this... I am saying that there are girls there who were being forced to have sex with men in the comound... and that it is highly unlikely it never happened again even after he left

That is exactly where I was going with this. You pointing out the former leader is rotting in jail for crimes and thus there has to be guilt somewhere. That is no different than claiming previous consensual encounters or a rape victim invalidates a rape charge. Both use prior acts to render a decision.

Hmm.. I sort of see it.. but we are talking about children here.. who cannot have consensual sex with old men anyhow

This whole topic has me confused... why are polygamists being protected anyhow...

Reminds me of a episode of a show called Without a Trace ..
http://www.tv.com/without-a-tr...ml?tag=ep_list;title;4

BTW, Didn't they find evidence of NEW molestations?
 
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
The whole group was previously run by a guy who was molesting the girls... right?

What you are doing is akin to pointing out a rape victim has had multiple partners.

I am not sure I understand where you are going with this... I am saying that there are girls there who were being forced to have sex with men in the comound... and that it is highly unlikely it never happened again even after he left

That is exactly where I was going with this. You pointing out the former leader is rotting in jail for crimes and thus there has to be guilt somewhere. That is no different than claiming previous consensual encounters or a rape victim invalidates a rape charge. Both use prior acts to render a decision.

Hmm.. I sort of see it.. but we are talking about children here.. who cannot have consensual sex with old men anyhow

This whole topic has me confused... why are polygamists being protected anyhow...

Reminds me of a episode of a show called Without a Trace ..
http://www.tv.com/without-a-tr...ml?tag=ep_list;title;4

BTW, Didn't they find evidence of NEW molestations?

From what I can tell, the court said the state has to find the individual households where this occurred. They can't just corral everyone that is a member like they did.

It's not like they live in one big tent out there.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: dahunan
The whole group was previously run by a guy who was molesting the girls... right?

What you are doing is akin to pointing out a rape victim has had multiple partners.

I am not sure I understand where you are going with this... I am saying that there are girls there who were being forced to have sex with men in the comound... and that it is highly unlikely it never happened again even after he left

That is exactly where I was going with this. You pointing out the former leader is rotting in jail for crimes and thus there has to be guilt somewhere. That is no different than claiming previous consensual encounters or a rape victim invalidates a rape charge. Both use prior acts to render a decision.

Hmm.. I sort of see it.. but we are talking about children here.. who cannot have consensual sex with old men anyhow

This whole topic has me confused... why are polygamists being protected anyhow...

Reminds me of a episode of a show called Without a Trace ..
http://www.tv.com/without-a-tr...ml?tag=ep_list;title;4

BTW, Didn't they find evidence of NEW molestations?

i have been following the news on this and i have not seen one story where the texas CPS has found any molestation.
 

dahunan

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^^* I just read more on the "31-53 teens" Incorrect story .. hmm.. that story made things sound really really bad.. but now it has been proven mostly false?
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: dahunan
^^* I just read more on the "31-53 teens" Incorrect story .. hmm.. that story made things sound really really bad.. but now it has been proven mostly false?

I haven't been following closely but I last I read I think it was down to possibly 24 *possible* underage pregnant girls. Haven't heard anything since that and don't know if that was accurate. Early on I was on the side of this being a justified raid but I will reserve judgment until *all* of the facts are out.
 

Pliablemoose

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It was a typical Baptist inspired cluster fuck, they think that anyone that doesn't live like they do is breaking the law.

<---In favor of the courts staying the hell away from deciding who can marry etc, gays, polys, etc...aside from affirming that they need to honor the equal protection argument and allow people to marry whoever the hell they want as long as minors aren't involved and other laws aren't broken.
 

OutHouse

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I would tell the state of Texas to go fuck themselves. there is no reason those people have to have the state mandate they take a parenting class or restrict their freedom of movement when they did nothing wrong.



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,360268,00.html

AUSTIN ? Texas authorities and a polygamist sect have reached a tentative agreement to begin returning children taken by the state starting Monday.

A draft agreement released in court by Texas Child Protective Services attorney Gary Banks on Friday says the parents can get their children back after showing identifications and pledging to take parenting classes and remain in Texas.