Conservatives love serial sexual harassers

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momeNt

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I've simply stated unimpeachable facts of the respective cases, which is what degenerates love to confuse for the Real degeneracy as you & peers have been eager to demonstrate.

You agree that he settled a sexual harassment claim then? Was that "tramp" just looking for money? You have displayed excellent training by those you are obliged to protect, you're such a good boy.
 

agent00f

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You agree that he settled a sexual harassment claim then? Was that "tramp" just looking for money? You have displayed excellent training by those you are obliged to protect, you're such a good boy.

Seems pretty obvious Clinton settled due to people like you, who're still waiting for all that evidence to lock him & her up. Evidence which has been abundant as you've been shown in the fox cases.

No great surprise people like that are similarly slow to figure how these little charades will play out.
 

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Seems pretty obvious Clinton settled due to people like you, who're still waiting for all that evidence to lock him & her up. Evidence which has been abundant as you've been shown in the fox cases.

No great surprise people like that are similarly slow to figure how these little charades will play out.

That argument could be flipped to defend O'Reilly.

I think Clinton settled because of the semen dress from Lewinsky came up as some kind of issue in the trial and that got Star interested and that got Clinton impeached.

Here is the allegation. That is the problem with allegations like this. Absent any additional evidence I have no idea what actually happened in that hotel room. Two people know and they are telling completely different stories. One point in Clinton's favor is that Paula took the money without any admission of guilt from Clinton.

Paula Jones alleged that in 1991, when she worked for the State of Arkansas' Industrial Development Commission, Clinton propositioned her and exposed himself at a conference in Little Rock. Clinton, Jones claimed, beckoned her to his suite at the hotel where the conference was being held, and after a few minutes of conversation, "unexpectedly reached over to me, took my hand, and pulled me toward him, so that our bodies were close to each other."

Clinton then, she said, made a number of sexual comments ("I love your curves"), slid his hand up her thigh, and tried unsuccessfully to kiss her on the neck until she stopped him. Jones claims she asked, "What are you doing?" and walked away from Clinton, and tried to change the conversation, after which Clinton walked back toward her, "lowered his trousers and underwear, exposed his penis (which was erect) and told me to 'kiss it.'" Jones rejected the overture, to which she claims Clinton replied, "I don't want to make you do anything you don't want to do." Before she left, she claims Clinton added, "You are smart. Let's keep this between ourselves."

The witnesses corralled by Jones and Clinton's legal teams, however, are somewhat informative. Jones and her lawyers offered two witnesses to corroborate the events. Pamela Blackard, who had been working with Jones at the registration desk for the conference, said she noticed Clinton "starting intently" at Jones before the incident, heard a state trooper tell Jones that the governor wanted to see her, and spoke to a "shaking" Jones about what had happened immediately afterward (though it was later revealed that Jones only told Blackard the most salacious parts of the allegation days after the fact, not immediately). Jones's friend, Debra Ballentine, claimed that Jones showed up unannounced at Ballentine's office later that day and recounted the story.

But multiple other witnesses suggested that Jones was, to the contrary, elated by her interaction with Clinton. Pam Hood, a coworker of Jones's, told the New Yorker's Jane Mayer in 1997 that the meeting sparked a "bubbly enthusiasm" in Jones similar to her demeanor after seeing Arnold Schwarzenegger visiting Little Rock. Carol Phillips, a switchboard operator at the governor's office, said Jones had a "happy and excited manner" in describing her meeting with Clinton, who Jones called "gentle," "nice," and "sweet." In 1994, her sister and brother-in-law, Charlotte and Mark Brown, told Sidney Blumenthal — then a New Yorker reporter — that Jones was suing Clinton for "the money," and that, "Paula's suing over a stupid lie, and she knows it."
 
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agent00f

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That argument could be flipped to defend O'Reilly.

I think Clinton settled because of the semen dress from Lewinsky came up as some kind of issue in the trial and that got Star interested and that got Clinton impeached.

Here is the allegation. That is the problem with allegations like this. Absent any additional evidence I have no idea what actually happened in that hotel room. Two people know and they are telling completely different stories. One point in Clinton's favor is that Paula took the money without any admission of guilt from Clinton.

I'm just saying that evidence matters to arguments, which degenerates predictably disagree with. The evidence in the Jones case for example shows that she offered to be Clinton's mistress, whereas the evidence in the O'Reilly cases shows that he repeatedly used career leverage over women. It's similarly a simple matter of fact that evidence matters to the liberally minded, not so much for perpetual degens forever set on never understanding this and desperate to accuse everyone else of being just as degenerate.
 
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So now we've got (by my count) 5 settled sexual harassment cases and one show cancellation which he also agreed to. If he continues to deny wrongdoing then he will begin to look like Pete Rose. Does he really want to be lumped in with Pete? C'mon O'Reilly. Come clean
 

HomerJS

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Did we ever get an answer to the title? Ok, if not love why conservatives are willing to support serial sexual harassers?
 

brycejones

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So now we've got (by my count) 5 settled sexual harassment cases and one show cancellation which he also agreed to. If he continues to deny wrongdoing then he will begin to look like Pete Rose. Does he really want to be lumped in with Pete? C'mon O'Reilly. Come clean

He never really came clean on his own about awards his old show won after he left the program. I would expect his behavior to change now.

For grins go watch videos of Al Franken and Bill O arguing. It's pretty funny to watch Bill lose his shit and being called out.
 
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zinfamous

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So now we've got (by my count) 5 settled sexual harassment cases and one show cancellation which he also agreed to. If he continues to deny wrongdoing then he will begin to look like Pete Rose. Does he really want to be lumped in with Pete? C'mon O'Reilly. Come clean

lol, lumped in with Pete Rose? what the hell is wrong with Pete Rose? That guy is St Peter next to this deflated pound cake.
 
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momeNt

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lol, lumped in with Pete Rose? what the hell is wrong with Pete Rose? That guy is St Peter next to this deflated pound cake.

It's more if Pete continues to deny he gets lumped in with Bill...

This might be what it takes for Pete to finally admit his wrongdoing! Except there was Penn State, Bill Cosby, and tons of other serial deniers that Pete doesn't mind keeping the company of. So I wouldn't hold my breath.
 

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It's more if Pete continues to deny he gets lumped in with Bill...

This might be what it takes for Pete to finally admit his wrongdoing! Except there was Penn State, Bill Cosby, and tons of other serial deniers that Pete doesn't mind keeping the company of. So I wouldn't hold my breath.

correct me if I'm wrong, but Pete admitted to gambling many, many years ago.
 
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It's more if Pete continues to deny he gets lumped in with Bill...

This might be what it takes for Pete to finally admit his wrongdoing! Except there was Penn State, Bill Cosby, and tons of other serial deniers that Pete doesn't mind keeping the company of. So I wouldn't hold my breath.

Never bet on baseball as a player is something he is holding on to still.

http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/...ines-shows-pete-rose-bet-baseball-player-1986

edit: Also worth mentioning. Trump campaigned in Ohio on allowing Pete Rose in the hall of fame. So, baseball in 1989 by banning Pete Rose from baseball, actually decided this year's election by allowing Trump's campaign promise to tilt a swing state in his favor.
 
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Did we ever get an answer to the title? Ok, if not love why conservatives are willing to support serial sexual harassers?

I don't think anyone contends that conservatives stack rank loyalty highly, so really the question becomes why so many conservatives can't help preying on women.

If you ever see their rants on these matters, in their own words it's because how men were meant to be. I'm guessing not even moment would lie about his peers' love of "traditional" gender roles, which they see as their excuse for putting the other gender in these compromising positions. After all, they elected one of the prototypical examples as their leader.
 
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Ackmed

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Did we ever get an answer to the title? Ok, if not love why conservatives are willing to support serial sexual harassers?

I don't see support for any sexual harassers? If guilty, he and anyone like him no matter the political affiliation should be held accountable. But keep acting like there aren't Dems who have done the same thing. I guess the question could be asked, why do Dems are willing to support serial sexual harassers? Its sad (more pathetic actually) that some think only one side does anything bad.
 

alien42

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I don't see support for any sexual harassers? If guilty, he and anyone like him no matter the political affiliation should be held accountable. But keep acting like there aren't Dems who have done the same thing. I guess the question could be asked, why do Dems are willing to support serial sexual harassers? Its sad (more pathetic actually) that some think only one side does anything bad.

wow, it literally all goes over your head, don't be daft and act like the right has ever fought for equal rights for women or any minority.

reality is that the right wing culture, which Fox News represents fully, breeds this kind of disgusting behavior while hypocritically claiming moral superiority.
 
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I don't see support for any sexual harassers? If guilty, he and anyone like him no matter the political affiliation should be held accountable. But keep acting like there aren't Dems who have done the same thing. I guess the question could be asked, why do Dems are willing to support serial sexual harassers? Its sad (more pathetic actually) that some think only one side does anything bad.


Go ahead and find three of the most recent cases of dem politicians accused of sexual misconduct and we'll compare how both parties handled it.
 
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agent00f

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I don't see support for any sexual harassers? If guilty, he and anyone like him no matter the political affiliation should be held accountable. But keep acting like there aren't Dems who have done the same thing. I guess the question could be asked, why do Dems are willing to support serial sexual harassers? Its sad (more pathetic actually) that some think only one side does anything bad.

The tapes/transcripts have been available from his lawsuits since at least 2004. His millions of fans, fox mgmt, and degenerates in general never cared for obvious reasons.

It's only somewhat incidental that the NYT has been able to take advantage of the popular anti-trump backlash to pressure advertisers to drop him.

Also worth noting that the new degenerate strategy is to cut line/o'reilly and try to save the network much as possible. You know the one that had a trump-type as the boss and presumably a good portion of the execs/etc.
 
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Ackmed

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wow, it literally all goes over your head, don't be daft and act like the right has ever fought for equal rights for women or any minority.

reality is that the right wing culture, which Fox News represents fully, breeds this kind of disgusting behavior while hypocritically claiming moral superiority.

Claiming that the right has never fought for equal rights of women or minorities is false. Anyone with a clue would know this. There are countless examples. Little thing about slavery and the civil war comes to mind.

Reading through some of the messages in this post, seems the left gives Bill a pass, or doesn't believe at all he did anything wrong. He didn't rape or sexually assault anyone. No concrete proof, so don't believe the victims is the logic for Dems it seems. People getting paid off, Hillary threatening and insulting the victims is a-ok. When there is her word versus his word on the opposite side, people automatically believe everything and act like only people on the right side do terrible things.

Terry Bean, huge Dem supporter and backer of Obama during 2012 election. Dem party took his money no problems, no matter being arrested for child molestation.

“Multnomah County Dems spokeswoman Sue Hagmeier says the party is comfortable accepting Bean’s money and hospitality. “He’s a friend of the party,” Hagmeier says. “He’s been accused of something that is a lurid crime, but he’s only been accused, not convicted. If he were convicted, we’d take another look.””

So they wanted to wait until a conviction to take another look. Wow, so wait until a court verdict to make a judgment on someone? Well that certainly sounds reasonable, too bad the lefts around here don't agree. When someone on the right is accused that is.

Speaking of Bill Clinton, last minute pardon for rapist Rep. Mel Reynolds, D-IL, then hired by Jesse Jackson. I mean, birds of a flock and all. Who then got later arrested for, wait for it, rape again. Again with an underage kid.

Then you have Anthoney Weiner, who likes kids too. I don't think anything else needs to be said about him.

Why do Dems like child rapists so much? See how easy that is to do? Can you do the same thing towards Repubs? Yep, sure can. We could go back and forth all day long. At least I am being honest about things, and saying that there are terrible, terrible, people on every side of the political spectrum. This bullshit that only one side does it is silly, and factually wrong. As I said before, no matter what side the person is on, if they're guilty of these sort of acts, they should be punished harshly. I rarely watch Fox or any TV news to be honest. It seems that Fox cut ties with him though after waiting for some more details of the alleged crimes. Seems reasonable, not sure what else you want.
 

agent00f

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Claiming that the right has never fought for equal rights of women or minorities is false. Anyone with a clue would know this. There are countless examples. Little thing about slavery and the civil war comes to mind.

Reading through some of the messages in this post, seems the left gives Bill a pass, or doesn't believe at all he did anything wrong. He didn't rape or sexually assault anyone. No concrete proof, so don't believe the victims is the logic for Dems it seems. People getting paid off, Hillary threatening and insulting the victims is a-ok. When there is her word versus his word on the opposite side, people automatically believe everything and act like only people on the right side do terrible things.

Terry Bean, huge Dem supporter and backer of Obama during 2012 election. Dem party took his money no problems, no matter being arrested for child molestation.



So they wanted to wait until a conviction to take another look. Wow, so wait until a court verdict to make a judgment on someone? Well that certainly sounds reasonable, too bad the lefts around here don't agree. When someone on the right is accused that is.

Speaking of Bill Clinton, last minute pardon for rapist Rep. Mel Reynolds, D-IL, then hired by Jesse Jackson. I mean, birds of a flock and all. Who then got later arrested for, wait for it, rape again. Again with an underage kid.

Then you have Anthoney Weiner, who likes kids too. I don't think anything else needs to be said about him.

Why do Dems like child rapists so much? See how easy that is to do? Can you do the same thing towards Repubs? Yep, sure can. We could go back and forth all day long. At least I am being honest about things, and saying that there are terrible, terrible, people on every side of the political spectrum. This bullshit that only one side does it is silly, and factually wrong. As I said before, no matter what side the person is on, if they're guilty of these sort of acts, they should be punished harshly. I rarely watch Fox or any TV news to be honest. It seems that Fox cut ties with him though after waiting for some more details of the alleged crimes. Seems reasonable, not sure what else you want.

This is why Ailes/O'Reilly would still be at Fox if degenerates had their way.
 
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alien42

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Claiming that the right has never fought for equal rights of women or minorities is false. Anyone with a clue would know this. There are countless examples. Little thing about slavery and the civil war comes to mind.

Reading through some of the messages in this post, seems the left gives Bill a pass, or doesn't believe at all he did anything wrong. He didn't rape or sexually assault anyone. No concrete proof, so don't believe the victims is the logic for Dems it seems. People getting paid off, Hillary threatening and insulting the victims is a-ok. When there is her word versus his word on the opposite side, people automatically believe everything and act like only people on the right side do terrible things.

Terry Bean, huge Dem supporter and backer of Obama during 2012 election. Dem party took his money no problems, no matter being arrested for child molestation.



So they wanted to wait until a conviction to take another look. Wow, so wait until a court verdict to make a judgment on someone? Well that certainly sounds reasonable, too bad the lefts around here don't agree. When someone on the right is accused that is.

Speaking of Bill Clinton, last minute pardon for rapist Rep. Mel Reynolds, D-IL, then hired by Jesse Jackson. I mean, birds of a flock and all. Who then got later arrested for, wait for it, rape again. Again with an underage kid.

Then you have Anthoney Weiner, who likes kids too. I don't think anything else needs to be said about him.

Why do Dems like child rapists so much? See how easy that is to do? Can you do the same thing towards Repubs? Yep, sure can. We could go back and forth all day long. At least I am being honest about things, and saying that there are terrible, terrible, people on every side of the political spectrum. This bullshit that only one side does it is silly, and factually wrong. As I said before, no matter what side the person is on, if they're guilty of these sort of acts, they should be punished harshly. I rarely watch Fox or any TV news to be honest. It seems that Fox cut ties with him though after waiting for some more details of the alleged crimes. Seems reasonable, not sure what else you want.

do you get an erection when talking about Bill Clinton?
 
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Ackmed

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do you get an erection when talking about Bill Clinton?

Oh, making a sexual joke towards me? You fit right in with this thread. Do you get upset when hypocrisy is shown? Don't answer, that's pretty common around here.
 

alien42

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Oh, making a sexual joke towards me? You fit right in with this thread. Do you get upset when hypocrisy is shown? Don't answer, that's pretty common around here.

do you need a safe space now snowflake? it was a joke, you quite obviously get pleasure in talking about Bill Clinton, no need to be offended.

if i had made the very same joke about a female, instead of Bill Clinton, you wouldn't have said a thing or had any problem with it.

you sir are the hypocrite.
 
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Ackmed

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do you need a safe space now snowflake? it was a joke, you quite obviously get pleasure in talking about Bill Clinton, no need to be offended.

No, I do not. Just showing more hypocrisy from your side. You make a sexual "joke" in a thread about sexual harassment. Good job. I don't get pleasure talking about Bill Clinton, he was already brought up several times in this thread. I simply offered my point of view on it.
 

agent00f

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I do wonder what momeNt thinks about Ackmet, or iow what's more important to him: pretending to care about sex predation or loyalty to his peers.
 

HomerJS

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I don't see support for any sexual harassers? If guilty, he and anyone like him no matter the political affiliation should be held accountable. But keep acting like there aren't Dems who have done the same thing. I guess the question could be asked, why do Dems are willing to support serial sexual harassers? Its sad (more pathetic actually) that some think only one side does anything bad.
There is support because a network where the culture is sexual harassment they still watch. BillO's people did not leave him, advertisers did.

Like I posted elsewhere, I'm a fan of Rachel Maddow but if it came out she called black people the n-word in her private life I would stop and I'm sure a large part of her base would also. It's called having standards.
 
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