Conservatives are for kneeling on the football field only for causes they approve

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pcgeek11

pcgeek11

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So a black football player is not allowed to have freedom of speech, religion, press, assembly, and the right to petition the government.

The five freedoms it protects: speech, religion, press, assembly, and the right to petition the government. Together, these five guaranteed freedoms make the people of the United States of America the freest in the world.
 
HomerJS

HomerJS

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pcgeek11 said:
So a black football player is not allowed to have freedom of speech, religion, press, assembly, and the right to petition the government.

The five freedoms it protects: speech, religion, press, assembly, and the right to petition the government. Together, these five guaranteed freedoms make the people of the United States of America the freest in the world.
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That's right Skippy, welcome to America. You think black people have the same rights as white people? You're dumber than you look.
 
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JD50 said:
The only thing I'm going to agree with @pcgeek11 on here is that the Kap situation isn't a 1A issue. It's just a 'conservatives being hypocritical snowflake' issue.
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Can't believe all the $ Kap lost out by not being able to play
 
pcgeek11

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nakedfrog said:
Evidently pcgeek11 thinks stupid grandstanding should pay out to the tune of $1.7 mil if you're a white Christian.
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No, I think he has a right to participate in his religion as he sees fit without being punished for it. Freedom of religion. Obviously the SCOTUS thinks so too.

The 1.7 million has nothing to do with grandstanding. It has a lot to do with being fired for Exercising his rights as outlined in the US Constitution. It doesn't matter what color you are or what religion you practice.
 
HomerJS

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pcgeek11 said:
No, I think he has a right to participate in his religion as he sees fit without being punished for it. Freedom of religion. Obviously the SCOTUS thinks so too.

The 1.7 million has nothing to do with grandstanding. It has a lot to do with being fired for Exercising his rights as outlined in the US Constitution. It doesn't matter what color you are or what religion you practice.
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Tell it to the Rastafarians. They don't get to practice their religious ceremonies.
 
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HomerJS said:
That's right Skippy, welcome to America. You think black people have the same rights as white people? You're dumber than you look.
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They do have all the rights as outlined in the Constitution and Amendments. That doesn't mean injustices do not happen. Injustices happen for many people regardless of their race.

You have a race obsession. You seriously think black people can't Speak Freely, Practice their chosen religion, Have freedom of the press, Can't assemble freely, or petition the government for redress.

These things happen every day for black people football players or not.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
No, I think he has a right to participate in his religion as he sees fit without being punished for it. Freedom of religion. Obviously the SCOTUS thinks so too.

The 1.7 million has nothing to do with grandstanding. It has a lot to do with being fired for Exercising his rights as outlined in the US Constitution. It doesn't matter what color you are or what religion you practice.
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The coach was using his government position to promote his brand of religion. He was abusing his position of authority.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
They do have all the rights as outlined in the Constitution and Amendments. That doesn't mean injustices do not happen. Injustices happen for many people regardless of their race.

You have a race obsession. You seriously think black people can't Speak Freely, Practice their chosen religion, Have freedom of the press, Can't assemble freely, or petition the government for redress.

These things happen every day for black people football players or not.
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Citizens have the right to vote and the Republican Party disenfranchises the black vote. They were caught in court doing this in 3 states. Democrats don't disenfranchise white people.

You don't know what you are talking about.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
No, I think he has a right to participate in his religion as he sees fit without being punished for it. Freedom of religion. Obviously the SCOTUS thinks so too.

The 1.7 million has nothing to do with grandstanding. It has a lot to do with being fired for Exercising his rights as outlined in the US Constitution. It doesn't matter what color you are or what religion you practice.
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He was absolutely free to participate in his religion, they did not in any way prevent him from doing so. The SCOTUS case was decided based on lies. He agreed to stop doing it, broke his agreement, they said "yeah, you're on leave, and we're not renewing your contract" and then he sued. If it were anyone else, you wouldn't be defending him, you'd be defending the employer saying they had every right to fire him. You thought it was stupid when you first commented on it.
pcgeek11 said:
I also think it is just stupid grandstanding just like that other @sshole Colin Kapernick.
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IronWing said:
The coach was using his government position to promote his brand of religion. He was abusing his position of authority.
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How is him having a private prayer promoting his brand of religion. Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.

He won and I'm happy he did.
Sorry you don't agree.
 
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HomerJS said:
Citizens have the right to vote and the Republican Party disenfranchises the black vote. They were caught in court doing this in 3 states. Democrats don't disenfranchise white people.

You don't know what you are talking about.
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Yeah, whatever dude.
 
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nakedfrog said:
He was absolutely free to participate in his religion, they did not in any way prevent him from doing so. The SCOTUS case was decided based on lies. He agreed to stop doing it, broke his agreement, they said "yeah, you're on leave, and we're not renewing your contract" and then he sued. If it were anyone else, you wouldn't be defending him, you'd be defending the employer saying they had every right to fire him. You thought it was stupid when you first commented on it.
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Grandstanding is not a reason to fire someone, it just makes him look foolish. Them firing him for praying was wrong. It is not a firing offense as long as he didn't force or entice his players to participate. He has a right to freedom of religion that is the difference between the two.

Kapernick also had a right to take a knee as he chose to do. I don't agree with his reasoning for doing it, but he has a right to look foolish if he wants.
 
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IronWing said:
He wasn’t having a private prayer; you are repeating the same lie Alito told.
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PcGeek is a liar, racist, hates women, and is a troll. Put him on ignore and he will go back to sucking Trump’s and Tuckers spew while pretending he is objective. He is obviously a MAGAT and only on here to assuage his little penis ego by instigating arguments. It is amazing watch someone fail at life so badly bit we live in alt-fact post truth world so he fits right in. The fact you laugh at my posts says it all. What a loser
 
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IronWing said:
He wasn’t having a private prayer; you are repeating the same lie Alito told.
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Did he broadcast his prayer?
No, he didn't.
He was praying on the field after the game.

The court ruled: A divided Supreme Court ultimately ruled that Bremerton coach Joe Kennedy had the right to pray on the field as long as he wasn't coercing others to join him.

"it remains illegal and unethical for public school employees to coerce, pressure, persuade, or force students, players, staff, or other participants to engage in any religious practice as a condition of playing, employment, belonging, or participation."
 
pcgeek11

pcgeek11

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APU_Fusion said:
PcGeek is a liar and troll. Put him on ignore and he will go back to sucking Trump’s and Tuckers spew while pretending he is objective. He is obviously a MAGAT and only on here to assuage his little penis by tringto instigate arguments. It is amazing watch someone fail at life so badly between live in alt-fact post truth world so he fits right in.
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I wish you would put me on ignore. I think you are a fan of mine as you always seem to follow my posts.

I'm failing at life.
:p
 
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