Conservative Hypocracy about Entitlements

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Fern

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I don't know if this would be successful in CA but how about digging your own well to water your golf course or yard? I know it can be done in the Northeast.

IIRC, CA recently ordered farmers etc to stop pumping water from their own wells. No more irrigation.

Their aquifer is becoming depleted.

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I think the OP doesn't know the meaning of the words "hypocracy" [sic] or "entitlements". Upon seeing the thread title I expected this to be about SS or Medicare.

Oh, the rich guy is a jerk.

Fern
 

Fern

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But can't build a national aqueduct system to bring excess flood waters from one part of the country to a drought stricken part of the country.

Well I'm sure environmentalists wouldn't have any problem with that. :whiste:

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BoberFett

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Well I'm sure environmentalists wouldn't have any problem with that. :whiste:

Fern

No shit. Lefty wing loonies love the environment until it's inconvenient.

You want to grow crops in the desert? Do it with your own water. Leave the rest of us out of it.
 

trenchfoot

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No shit. Lefty wing loonies love the environment until it's inconvenient.

You want to grow crops in the desert? Do it with your own water. Leave the rest of us out of it.

And righty wing loonies, yourself excluded of course, don't give a shit about the environment until their drinking water gets contaminated by a chemical processing company up-river from them or all the game they like to shoot at during hunting season have died off/run off from either being contaminated with pollutants or their environment has become untenable to live off of.

And even after those disasters happen to them, the righty loonie will, to a man, faithfully excuse the folks who poisoned them and their wells and their game and tell anyone who cares to listen that everything's fine now, nothing to worry about, it was a freak chain of unavoidable accidents that couldn't be avoided.

The second part of your post I agree with in some ways and to a lesser degree in the sense that taking a dwindling resource from someone else to satisfy your own needs is unethical in the least and downright criminal in some instances.
 

BoberFett

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It's funny, you're right about me, I am excluded. Libertarians believe the right to swing your fist ends at my nose, and a lot of them (I won't claim all, that's generalizing too much) believe that applies to property rights as well. If you want to contaminate your land, go right ahead. But if you contaminate your part of the river, you better figure out how to keep that contamination in your part of the river. If it gets to someone elses part of the river, that's somebody else's nose.

Libertarianism don't hate the environment, though many liberals would love to believe we do. (The left loves a good bogeymen as much as the right does) We just don't agree entirely on how best to manage. The left prefer strict regulation and centralized control of all resources is the answer. Libertarians generally believe that private ownership of resources and awarding damaged parties when appropriate is the correct way to deal with those who keep swinging their fist even when it affects someone else's air or water.
 

JSt0rm

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No shit. Lefty wing loonies love the environment until it's inconvenient.

You want to grow crops in the desert? Do it with your own water. Leave the rest of us out of it.


But you benefit from those crops. There isnt a more productive farmland. Watch the prices of bing cherries and ask yourself if you want basics like strawberries to cost $15 for a small pack.
 

theeedude

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Why should the rest of the country give up their water to support your bad practices? Hasn't the southwest done enough ecological damage?

Enjoy your brown lawns, bitches. You're not supposed to have lush green lawns in a desert.

Do you like peanut butter with your jelly?
 

BoberFett

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But you benefit from those crops. There isnt a more productive farmland. Watch the prices of bing cherries and ask yourself if you want basics like strawberries to cost $15 for a small pack.

Do you like peanut butter with your jelly?

He doesnt know what he wants. Ideology first is how communism ran its course.

Get a room, lovebirds.

It's the most productive farmland... because you use up all your water, and then expect everyone else to give you their water. You idiots fail at even basic cause and effect.
 

Kwatt

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not sure how this is going to help..

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Could come in handy with the wiping if you are out of paper;).


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norseamd

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Why should the rest of the country give up their water to support your bad practices? Hasn't the southwest done enough ecological damage?

Enjoy your brown lawns, bitches. You're not supposed to have lush green lawns in a desert.

This.
 

TheSlamma

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Do you like peanut butter with your jelly?
Kentucky Blue grass in a climate that struggles to support it on it's own precipitation doesn't benefit anyone. Dump the grass and give the water to the agriculture that supports the state.

Plenty of nice plants out there that use a fraction of the water, don't have to be mowed and in all honesty look far better than a boring ass water sucking lawn.
 

theeedude

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Get a room, lovebirds.

It's the most productive farmland... because you use up all your water, and then expect everyone else to give you their water. You idiots fail at even basic cause and effect.

Do you even Economics, bro?
 

IGBT

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/07/how-california-went-dry/


Let’s begin with actual wastes of water in the state of California. Thanks to Environmental Protection Agency regulations as well as local state regulations aimed at protecting the three-inch Delta smelt, a fish about which Americans supposedly care deeply, California currently pumps 150 billion gallons of usable water out to sea each year. Normally, that water would go to the fields of the Central Valley, the fruit and nuts producing region of California that supplies so many of those goods to the rest of the country. Instead, the entire region has gone dry, jacking unemployment rates up to 40 percent in some areas. As the Mayor of Mendota, California, a heavily Hispanic farming community of 10,000, told me back in 2009...
 

JSt0rm

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Get a room, lovebirds.

It's the most productive farmland... because you use up all your water, and then expect everyone else to give you their water. You idiots fail at even basic cause and effect.


The farmland isnt productive based on the amount of water we use. You should do some research on this subject and THEN decide whats going on instead of calling others idiots while making statements that are, well, idiotic.
 
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JSt0rm

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/07/how-california-went-dry/


Let’s begin with actual wastes of water in the state of California. Thanks to Environmental Protection Agency regulations as well as local state regulations aimed at protecting the three-inch Delta smelt, a fish about which Americans supposedly care deeply, California currently pumps 150 billion gallons of usable water out to sea each year. Normally, that water would go to the fields of the Central Valley, the fruit and nuts producing region of California that supplies so many of those goods to the rest of the country. Instead, the entire region has gone dry, jacking unemployment rates up to 40 percent in some areas. As the Mayor of Mendota, California, a heavily Hispanic farming community of 10,000, told me back in 2009...


^^^ this is the mantra that was released yesterday by "powers" I see it takes little time to filter down to this moron and others.

Water going to the environment is wasted thats the line of reasoning. Shit is going to hit the fan. Big agro is gearing up for a fight and the conservative sheeple machine is so easy to get moving enlightened people will have a serious fight on their hands.
 

waggy

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/07/how-california-went-dry/


Let’s begin with actual wastes of water in the state of California. Thanks to Environmental Protection Agency regulations as well as local state regulations aimed at protecting the three-inch Delta smelt, a fish about which Americans supposedly care deeply, California currently pumps 150 billion gallons of usable water out to sea each year. Normally, that water would go to the fields of the Central Valley, the fruit and nuts producing region of California that supplies so many of those goods to the rest of the country. Instead, the entire region has gone dry, jacking unemployment rates up to 40 percent in some areas. As the Mayor of Mendota, California, a heavily Hispanic farming community of 10,000, told me back in 2009...

right. you can' feed the population and keep people in work or protect some fucking little animal nobody really gives a shit about.
 

IGBT

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right. you can' feed the population and keep people in work or protect some fucking little animal nobody really gives a shit about.



better yet lets bring in another 10-20 million water users and blame "conservatives" when the water situation gets worse..and still release 150 billion gallons of water a year for bait fish and mud puddle maggots.
 

waggy

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better yet lets bring in another 10-20 million water users and blame "conservatives" when the water situation gets worse..and still release 150 billion gallons of water a year for bait fish and mud puddle maggots.

I really don't get the 2nd part. why. 150 billion gallons a year..just fucking amazing.
 

JSt0rm

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that is what i was thinking. but still..just a staggering amount of water.


Water flowing in a river isnt released. It just isnt captured. There is a big BIG industry looking to move public opinion for short term profits. ICBM is of course along for the ride because freedumb and liberal scum but I hope everyone reads unbiased sources and comes up with their own conclusion on the issue.
 

MongGrel

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I want the oceans to rise.

About another 20 feet and most of Florida will be under water and I'll be on an island :p

Kidding a bit, but true.

Proabaly wouldn't take 20.
 
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