CNN Has more sympathy for the rapists.

[Texashiker]

I saw due process. Guilt was established, judgement passed.

Should judgement include a lifetime of punishment?

Having to register as a sex offender for life is a pretty stiff penalty.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You people ever hear about "innocent until proven guilty?" Why is it as soon as some holy vagina claims to have been violated, the accuser becomes "victim" and the defendants are vilified as if they were guilty without trial?

Sure we've heard of "Innocent until proven guilty" however, when said defendants take photos of said act makes it quite hard to prove their innocent.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Should judgement include a lifetime of punishment?

Having to register as a sex offender for life is a pretty stiff penalty.

Don't commit the crime if you're not willing to pay the consequences.

 

[Texashiker]

You people ever hear about "innocent until proven guilty?" Why is it as soon as some holy vagina claims to have been violated, the accuser becomes "victim" and the defendants are vilified as if they were guilty without trial?

Because society demonizes sex and sexual crimes.

Don't commit the crime if you're not willing to pay the consequences.

Come on, touching the vagu of a girl constitutes a lifetime of poverty?

 

[Theb]

Citation? It's too basic to even enter that realm. It's like asking me for a citation proving the primary biological motivator for eating is sustenance/hunger because some dipshits had managed to convince people it was all about the taste and advertising and depression eating etc... those are all real things at play in eating but of course the biological need is still the main reason.

Do you believe rape is some new thing? It is very much a part of human sexuality in its natural, pre-civilized state. None of us alive today don't have rapists in our genealogical ancestry, concentrated most at the dawn of our species.

It is simply deemed incompatible with civilized society, and rightly so.

Some humans have the relevant urges more strongly than others, but to pretend it is some alien contaminant in our sexuality is wildly naive and demonstrates a failure to take note of enduringly popular themes in pornography, film, and women's romance novels in particular.

I do not condone, nor promote, nor am I someone with strong urges toward those fantasies. What I am is someone who refuses to sugar coat reality.

Are you trying to say you've learned more about rape by navel gazing than anyone who has researched it? If so that's an amazing combination of arrogance and stupidity.

 

[LumbergTech]

Because society demonizes sex and sexual crimes.




Come on, touching the vagu of a girl constitutes a lifetime of poverty?

We get it, you don't think rape is a big deal.

 

[umbrella39]

You people ever hear about "innocent until proven guilty?" Why is it as soon as some holy vagina claims to have been violated, the accuser becomes "victim" and the defendants are vilified as if they were guilty without trial?

I don't think you understand what the word claim means...

 

[Texashiker]

We get it, you don't think rape is a big deal.

No, you do not get it.

From what I understand, the boys were convicted of touching the girls genitals, and not full fledged sexual assault.

Somehow, touching the genitals of a girl without her permission deserves a lifetime of discrimination and poverty? The girl never has to mention the assault. But the boys will have to explain themselves for the rest of their lives.

And that is supposed to be justice?

 

[Geosurface]

Are you trying to say you've learned more about rape by navel gazing than anyone who has researched it? If so that's an amazing combination of arrogance and stupidity.

No, I'm not saying that. I have heard compelling arguments backing up what I'm talking about but I'm on my phone and I wouldn't feel like tracking anything like that down even if I weren't. Harness your intellectual curiosity and look into these arguments yourself.

Though frankly I'm amazed this requires discussion, much like my hunger example. I guess that's a testament to the power of bullshit mantras repeated often enough.

 

[Munky]

I don't think you understand what the word claim means...

I don't think you understand what the word claptrap means. Because that's the only possible explanation for your post.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Come on, touching the vagu of a girl constitutes a lifetime of poverty?

I guess they should have thought of this before touching/fingering a girl who was passed out and photographing it no less. They have no one to blame but themselves.

 

[SheHateMe]

You people ever hear about "innocent until proven guilty?" Why is it as soon as some holy vagina claims to have been violated, the accuser becomes "victim" and the defendants are vilified as if they were guilty without trial?

Wow.

No, you do not get it.

From what I understand, the boys were convicted of touching the girls genitals, and not full fledged sexual assault.

Somehow, touching the genitals of a girl without her permission deserves a lifetime of discrimination and poverty? The girl never has to mention the assault. But the boys will have to explain themselves for the rest of their lives.

And that is supposed to be justice?

They didn't just TOUCH her genitals, they took her to the backseat of a car (and then a basement) and stuck their fingers inside of her. One of them ejaculated on her and took photos. There is also evidence that they may have sodomized her too judging from the texts that were floating around. She was SEXUALLY ASSAULTED repeatedly in front of bunches of witnesses and nobody did a thing about it until the cops got involved. All those kids that witnessed testified in court after being granted immunity. They are pieces of shit too, but they didn't lay a hand on her.


Why the fuck are you guys so sorry for these two pieces of trash that would use an unconscious girl as a sex toy?

not full fledged sexual assault.

Oh, are we back to Geosurface's "Full-on rape" thing?

 

[CitizenKain]

Why the fuck are you guys so sorry for these two pieces of trash that would use an unconscious girl as a sex toy?

Because they are rightwing whitetrash.

 

[waggy]

I guess they should have thought of this before touching/fingering a girl who was passed out and photographing it no less. They have no one to blame but themselves.

lol this

 

[Theb]

No, I'm not saying that. I have heard compelling arguments backing up what I'm talking about but I'm on my phone and I wouldn't feel like tracking anything like that down even if I weren't. Harness your intellectual curiosity and look into these arguments yourself.

Though frankly I'm amazed this requires discussion, much like my hunger example. I guess that's a testament to the power of bullshit mantras repeated often enough.

Rape has been heavily researched. Saying that sexual desire is the primary motivator for most rapists is an extraordinary claim. Hunger, mantras, and the price of tea in china are not relevant to rape.

 

[Texashiker]

Why the fuck are you guys so sorry for these two pieces of trash that would use an unconscious girl as a sex toy?

I do not feel sorry for the guys.

In this case, what is fair justice? Why were the witnesses granted immunity? Shouldn't they have been prosecuted as well?

Is it justice to prosecute one person, but not the other?

Why does one person walk free, while others are branded as a rapist for the rest of their lives?

My stance is fair/balanced/equal justice was not served.

 

[Matt1970]

No, you do not get it.

From what I understand, the boys were convicted of touching the girls genitals, and not full fledged sexual assault.

Somehow, touching the genitals of a girl without her permission deserves a lifetime of discrimination and poverty? The girl never has to mention the assault. But the boys will have to explain themselves for the rest of their lives.

And that is supposed to be justice?

They fingered her. Like I said, it doesn't matter what body part they stuck in her, she was violated and she will be scarred for life.

 

[skyking]

I do not feel sorry for the guys.

In this case, what is fair justice? Why were the witnesses granted immunity? Shouldn't they have been prosecuted as well?

Is it justice to prosecute one person, but not the other?

Why does one person walk free, while others are branded as a rapist for the rest of their lives?

My stance is fair/balanced/equal justice was not served.

They are convening a grand jury now to see if anyone else needs to be prosecuted, FYI.

 

[sixone]

I do not feel sorry for the guys.

In this case, what is fair justice? Why were the witnesses granted immunity? Shouldn't they have been prosecuted as well?

Is it justice to prosecute one person, but not the other?

Why does one person walk free, while others are branded as a rapist for the rest of their lives?

My stance is fair/balanced/equal justice was not served.

So are you saying that if we can't punish everyone, we shouldn't punish anyone?

 

[nehalem256]

They fingered her. Like I said, it doesn't matter what body part they stuck in her, she was violated and she will be scarred for life.

How will she be scarred for life from something she doesn't even remember? :hmm:

Because they are rightwing whitetrash.

At least one of them was black. :hmm:

 

[sixone]

No, you do not get it.

From what I understand, the boys were convicted of touching the girls genitals, and not full fledged sexual assault.

Somehow, touching the genitals of a girl without her permission deserves a lifetime of discrimination and poverty? The girl never has to mention the assault. But the boys will have to explain themselves for the rest of their lives.

And that is supposed to be justice?

They could have accepted responsibility for what they did, and probably could have entered a plea to a lesser crime. Instead, they chose to claim that what they did wasn't wrong.

So yeah, justice is the correct word for it.

 

[sixone]

How will she be scarred for life from something she doesn't even remember? :hmm:

Because there were photos being passed around all over her school and her town.

How is she supposed to not remember that?

 

[SheHateMe]

I do not feel sorry for the guys.

In this case, what is fair justice? Why were the witnesses granted immunity? Shouldn't they have been prosecuted as well?

Is it justice to prosecute one person, but not the other?

Why does one person walk free, while others are branded as a rapist for the rest of their lives?

My stance is fair/balanced/equal justice was not served.

Because Trent and Ma'lik were the ones who were sexually assaulting her.....

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

How old are you? I am 45 years old.

And no, I would have never taken advantage of a lady.

However, there are some big differences in the way kids think today, and when I was growing up.

BullSHIT.

I am 22 years old and I never thought of raping a girl passed out on a couch.

 

[SheHateMe]

BullSHIT.

I am 22 years old and I never thought of raping a girl passed out on a couch.

I am a year older than you and I've been to some College parties where both girls and guys were so drunk they blacked out and were laying in the middle of the floor, on a couch, outside on the lawn, or in the bathroom.

You know what people did? They tried to wake them up, called cabs, or offered rides.

One party in particular, a guy was so wasted. He was projectile vomitting everywhere and was just spawned out in the backyard. A couple of guys went out and brought him in the bathroom and laid him in the tub so he wouldn't make a mess. Later, they went around asking if people could give a dollar so that they could get a cab for him.

Never have I seen someone being sexually assaulted. And I've been to some of the worst shit shows in College.

I don't think the average teenager/College kid would have done something like that.