"China thinks it can defeat America in battle"

[Orignal Earl]

We do the things that spineless cunts that bad mouth the military on the internet do not have the balls to even contemplate, let alone do. Go screw yourself.

That's pretty standard issue chatter for all militaries

 

[NetWareHead]

Well said sailor, thank you for your service. I'm curious, what kind of torpedo would you guys have primed if you were tailing a Typhoon? Would all that titanium make any difference?

Typhoon was not constructed with a titanium hull.

 

[Orignal Earl]

When did you serve?
Pretty sure the US military uses metric these days?

Looked it up myself.
The US Navy still uses inches for it's guns. Subs use "kiloyards" for distance

 

[Genx87]

You cant compare iraq to china. Iraq is a country whose borders were drawn by colonial powers, thats why they have an ethnic minority ruling over a majority which is also why they are so easily destabilized, as this was how nations were designed under the colonial system of divide and conquer. A minority group either has to rule with an iron fist or have foreign imperial powers backing it, which is why thats the predominant governmental type in the region.

I contend Iraqs borders had little to do with their capability on the battlefield.

China on the other hand has thousands of years of continuous rule and borders and a single supermajority ethnic group. Japan during WWII was probably 50 years ahead of China technologically yet never successfully took over much more Manchuria and the northern coast of China. This is also why it was so hard to colonize china.

I didn't compare the two. In fact I explicitly said the Chinese army is much more capable than the Iraqi army. Which makes comparing them one v one useless.

My using the Iraqi army was to illustrate that numbers don't make up for lack of logistical, technological, training, and battle doctrine. And that a force doesn't need a 4:1 manpower ratio advantage to win battles nor an entire war if it wins in those categories.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

That's pretty standard issue chatter for all militaries

You really should be ashamed of yourself.

As a canadian, you really should be appreciative of what the US does to protect you. I have no doubt that you will disagree with this, and will request my "credentials" for relaying common fact, but you would be speaking french, or worse german or russian if it weren't for the US.

The only reason canada is such a good country is because the US protects it and allows it to happen.

 

[NetWareHead]

Yes you got me with that metric shit... We do not measure our Torpedos in mm only inches and feet.

Good you now see why we did away with the Mark 45 torpedo. Good riddance.

The procedure was to fire the torpedo, turn 180 degrees and go as deep and as fast as you can away from the blast in hopes that you can ride the shock wave. Maybe you will make it ... maybe you won't.

According to some articles on the internet about this torpedo, mk 45 had no homing capability and was wire guided. Presumably over some dictate from higher up that demanded the sub keep control over a swimming nuclear warhead. The warhead could only be detonated from a deliberate fire command from the firing submarine delivered over the cable.

http://www.harpoondatabases.com/encyclopedia/Entry731.aspx

Now that I read about ASTOR, I'm liking the idea of SUBROC more and more. A long range standoff weapon with a rapidly sinking nuclear depth charge.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

When did you serve?
Pretty sure the US military uses metric these days?

I love how any time anyone presents common facts to you, you immediately demand their credentials.

It's your defacto way of trying to discredit someone's argument... It seriously makes you look like a hillbilly. You might want to counter with facts and your own opinion rather than falling back to this lame argument all the time.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I'm not worried

LOL that's an awesome picture.

You forgot canada. Oh..... Guess you might as well put them under US? We control their defense anyway.

 

[Darwin333]

,.. because we rocked face in the Middle East,... right.

The "blowing shit up" part we did pretty darn well.

 

[Darwin333]

So, its better to just roll over and let China conquer Asia if they decide they want to?

I wonder who will loan us the money for that war?

 

[Orignal Earl]

I love how any time anyone presents common facts to you, you immediately demand their credentials.

It's your defacto way of trying to discredit someone's argument... It seriously makes you look like a hillbilly. You might want to counter with facts and your own opinion rather than falling back to this lame argument all the time.

I am a hillbilly though I prefer Redneck.
Facts that are common to you, may not apply to everyone.

LOL that's an awesome picture.

You forgot canada. Oh..... Guess you might as well put them under US? We control their defense anyway.

Here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canadian_Navy

Third largest Navy in the world during WW2

In the real world, the cooperation between Canada and the US is what has kept us safe.

Are you ever going to reply to me about your anti-freedom earl kick you have been on?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I am a hillbilly though I prefer Redneck.
Facts that are common to you, may not apply to everyone.




Here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canadian_Navy

Third largest Navy in the world during WW2

In the real world, the cooperation between Canada and the US is what has kept us safe.

Are you ever going to reply to me about your anti-freedom earl kick you have been on?

Bahaha cooperation between canada and the USA is what kept you safe... anti-freedom earl what are your credentials? Are you a canadian historian? If not your points are invalid.



How many aircraft carriers does canada currently have?

 

[JTsyo]

A war between the US and Taiwan would only be a sea centered battles. Neither would be striking at each other's infrastructure. The end result would be devastating for the Chinese though, not not from the military defeat but lose of trade. Once war breaks out, the region will carry too much risk for companies to operate factories there. These would then be re-established in Africa or some such place. At the end of the war, they wouldn't return and China would be set way back.

China's advantage is in manpower. They were able to use this in the Korean War but in the sea this would not make much of a difference. If China wanted to take Korea and the rest of SE Asia it would be difficult for us to stop them, similar to the situation in Crimea. But once they need to transport troops over water, we can intervene effectively.

 

[Darwin333]

You really should be ashamed of yourself.

As a canadian, you really should be appreciative of what the US does to protect you. I have no doubt that you will disagree with this, and will request my "credentials" for relaying common fact, but you would be speaking french, or worse german or russian if it weren't for the US.

The only reason canada is such a good country is because the US protects it and allows it to happen.

Probably the same reason that Mexico is such an awesome country these days too....

 

[Orignal Earl]

You really should be ashamed of yourself.

As a canadian, you really should be appreciative of what the US does to protect you. I have no doubt that you will disagree with this, and will request my "credentials" for relaying common fact, but you would be speaking french, or worse german or russian if it weren't for the US.

The only reason canada is such a good country is because the US protects it and allows it to happen.

I have nothing in the world to be ashamed of.
You really seem to be butt hurt about something though

 

[Orignal Earl]

Bahaha cooperation between canada and the USA is what kept you safe... anti-freedom earl what are your credentials? Are you a canadian historian? If not your points are invalid.



How many aircraft carriers does canada currently have?

How many times do you see an American aircraft carrier on an actual mission without some Canadian ships around it?

 

[Orignal Earl]

The Canadian military, like forces of other NATO countries, fought alongside the United States in most major conflicts since World War II, including the Korean War, the Gulf War, the Kosovo War, and most recently the war in Afghanistan. The main exceptions to this were the Canadian government's opposition to the Vietnam War and the Iraq War, which caused some brief diplomatic tensions. Despite these issues, military relations have remained close.

American defense arrangements with Canada are more extensive than with any other country.[92] The Permanent Joint Board of Defense, established in 1940, provides policy-level consultation on bilateral defense matters. The United States and Canada share North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) mutual security commitments. In addition, American and Canadian military forces have cooperated since 1958 on continental air defense within the framework of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD). Canadian forces have provided indirect support for the American invasion of Iraq that began in 2003.[93] Moreover, interoperability with the American armed forces has been a guiding principle of Canadian military force structuring and doctrine since the end of the Cold War. Canadian navy frigates, for instance, integrate seamlessly into American carrier battle groups.[94]

In commemoration of the 200th Anniversary of the War of 1812 ambassadors from Canada and the US, and naval officers from both countries gathered at the Pritzker Military Library on August 17, 2012, for a panel discussion on Canada-US relations with emphasis on national security-related matters. Also as part of the commemoration, the navies of both countries sailed together throughout the Great Lakes region

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–United_States_relations#Military_and_security

 

[SpatiallyAware]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–United_States_relations#Military_and_security

No one is saying that the US isn't allowing canada to send a couple people over to run behind us while we take care of business.

 

[Orignal Earl]

anti-freedom earl

Again, why do you keep saying this and running away?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Again, why do you keep saying this and running away?

It requires absolutely no explanation. The name itself explains your persona perfectly.

 

[Orignal Earl]

It requires absolutely no explanation. The name itself explains your persona perfectly.

lol..alrighty then, you have fun with that.

 

[MetalMat]

LOL that's an awesome picture.

You forgot canada. Oh..... Guess you might as well put them under US? We control their defense anyway.

Does the rest of the world really have that few of aircraft carriers or do they use some sort of other ships to hold jets on the seas? That is amazing!

 

[slightlyhuman]

Does the rest of the world really have that few of aircraft carriers or do they use some sort of other ships to hold jets on the seas? That is amazing!

Well I'm sure if you look at the other countries defense budget you'll find your answer..

But yes, pretty cool.

 

[fskimospy]

Does the rest of the world really have that few of aircraft carriers or do they use some sort of other ships to hold jets on the seas? That is amazing!

No, it's just that aircraft carriers are really expensive. No other country has the ability to project power like the US does.

 

[Zebo]

We do the things that spineless cunts that bad mouth the military on the internet do not have the balls to even contemplate, let alone do. Go screw yourself.

Balls is making your way through life without mommy govt taking over from your parents after graduation from HS. Other than combat arms it's not even dangerous - a clerk at convenience store is at more danger than someone on a boat. Do you thank them for their service?

I admire combat arms should be paid 10x what normal military members are in rear with gear sucking teet but I still dont see them as services anyone other than Halliburton stock price. But then I don't believe in standing army either. Just a liability and deosnt advance human kind. Service would have been using that 2T iraq costed and building a 100% fossil fuel independent power grind in the United States.