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Hammer

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

After the first shot you would've been too dazed to do anything. Don't try to kid yourself.

So true. The only time I ever got whacked hard by a blind side hit I could barely walk and thought I was in Egypt for a good 20 minutes.

you're both right. its the punch that you don't see coming that gets you. you're pretty much screwed if it happens. hell, professional boxers can't recover very quickly from them. and they get hit for a living. its why the left hook is so effective.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Hammer

That guy was really top-heavy and was distracted beating the other guy. a hard kick to his knee (preferably from the side) would have put him in some real pain.

I'm really liking that idea. Really.

I'll third that
Big guys' knees are usually the weakest part, I know given I'm 6'4" 250lbs

I know that I would want to do something, but I can't tell you that I would be able to until I am in that situation


yeah, the heavier you are the more wear and tear you put on your knees. a solid kick to the knee will cause bigger guys to collapse under thier own weight. usually there's some damage as a result.

I'm picturing that guy going down after a kick to the side of his left knee. :thumbsup:

Too bad the kicker would probably have been charged with a crime, tho.
i don't know... it was all on tape, and good tape. i'll bet someone defending that guy would be viewed as just that, a defender.
 

bigredguy

Platinum Member
Mar 18, 2001
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i woulda walked out to my car grabbed Ol'Blue(4D cell mag light) and done something, even if i got my butt kicked.
 

shurato

Platinum Member
Sep 24, 2000
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It's like watching 2 wildabeasts.... pffft.... I see this kind of crap all the time having worked in the worst parts of the city. At one point in my life I was itching for something to happen so I could take out all my aggression. I'd beat the sh!t out of the female in the video as well if I had the opportunity. And yeah I have to agree, "certain" stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason... sick of the moral police who come out and say oh well not all blah blah blah.... Well live in my city and tell me if you think some of this crap is just "stereotypes".
 

fbrdphreak

Lifer
Apr 17, 2004
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So I didn't get to watch it until now (At work on an old comp w/no video codecs :roll;)
WOW, I probably would've just stood there and quivered in fear. That dude was fvcking big, and crazy. I would at least try to stop a little crazy dude, but big crazy people are just plain scary.
 

iamme

Lifer
Jul 21, 2001
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honestly, unless you have experience with fights and violence....the whole situation would have gone by very fast and ended before you know it.

looking at the video from your computer desk, it looks like there was plenty of time to react, but in reality most people would have been to stunned to even move (probably myself included). look at the video, most people didn't even budge.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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omg.

that first punch sure was a haymaker. i'm sorry, i didn't catch it on the video - did the punchee have friends in the store? wow, either way I couldn't believe the apathy in both facial expressions and body language of the other people in there. it's like they were all fight doctors for 25 years or something.

that black dude was huge. if i was a complete stranger to everyone, i would at least be yelling STOP IT YOU FVCKING COWARD but at the same time getting ready to run. he'd probably pull out the glock and put a cap in my ass as i ran away but maybe punching bag boy would have been safe for the time being.

i've helped friends out that were being outnumbered and as a result been beat up pretty bad. it sucks when you are holding your own, maybe even winning a scrap, and then you get a few haymakers from your blind spot and get beat up anyway. :(

fighting sucks ass. it scares the crap out of me how many little punks out there glorify it and want to get in fights just for experience.
 

fbrdphreak

Lifer
Apr 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: wobbuffet
Originally posted by: Aimster
Human trash.

:thumbsdown:

Thumbs down to the dumb@$$ beating people up or Aimster?
If its to Aimster, then you're a little off base. Anybody who has the damn nerve to walkv to the front of a crowded line is an @$$hole themselves, and then to top it off with viciously attacking an innocent bystander. If that isn't human trash, then what is?
 

hevnsnt

Lifer
Mar 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Originally posted by: wobbuffet
Originally posted by: Aimster
Human trash.

:thumbsdown:

Thumbs down to the dumb@$$ beating people up or Aimster?
If its to Aimster, then you're a little off base. Anybody who has the damn nerve to walkv to the front of a crowded line is an @$$hole themselves, and then to top it off with viciously attacking an innocent bystander. If that isn't human trash, then what is?

I agree with your statement.
 

Zanix

Diamond Member
Feb 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Originally posted by: wobbuffet
Originally posted by: Aimster
Human trash.

:thumbsdown:

Thumbs down to the dumb@$$ beating people up or Aimster?
If its to Aimster, then you're a little off base. Anybody who has the damn nerve to walkv to the front of a crowded line is an @$$hole themselves, and then to top it off with viciously attacking an innocent bystander. If that isn't human trash, then what is?

I agree with your statement.

It's an unfortunate truth I think. Some people never get taught "not to hit" other kids.

UFC is kinda different. They fight for fun/money. Those guys def don't spend all their time training and all that to just for money, there's got to be some enjoyment there.
 

Triumph

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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But but but that big black guy doesn't need punishment. He needs to be reformed. It's society's fault that he is such an animal! It's not his fault he was raised to be a menace to society!
 

gigapet

Lifer
Aug 9, 2001
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what happened to taking things outside and squaring up for a fair one....

reminds me of something i saw last spring at this bar....this looney literally takes 4 or 5 steps(yes steps not feet) winding up and throws the biggest haymaker i've ever seen on this kid that was not even looking in his direction. It caught him on the side of his mouth by his chin. He went flying to the ground blood everywhere. What kind of pu$$y takes a 4-5 step wind up for a blindsided cheapshot? absolutely rediculous.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Triumph
But but but that big black guy doesn't need punishment. He needs to be reformed. It's society's fault that he is such an animal! It's not his fault he was raised to be a menace to society!

Reformed as a rope around his neck or a bullet in the head?
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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I have no fvcking idea what I would have done. I probably would have just stood there like a dumbass, just like everyone else. Trying to think of what to do, but coming up with something to late to matter.

The best idea I could come up with...hit him over the head with a nearby chair. And honestly...I think it would have taken me to long to get my sh|t together on that one.

And Ilmater...I know you said you would help. But you said yourself you were what...6'9" 300lbs? Frankly there's probably not a guy you could run into at that size that you'd look at and think "No way in hell can I win this." I'm neither big nor strong...if I'm going after that guy, its going to be a brutal unfair hit that he isn't ready for...because my only chance is to fvck him up so bad with the first hit that my weak ass has a chance of finishing him off.

What gets me...4 years and probation...WTF? I fvcking hate this half ass punishment system we have. No room in the jails? Cut his arms off or something then. Fvcking animal.

 

Doggiedog

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

I don't know about you but I'd rather get a beatdown than get tossed in jail for murder even though I didn't start the fight.
 

Triumph

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

I don't know about you but I'd rather get a beatdown than get tossed in jail for murder even though I didn't start the fight.

Self defense is murder now?
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Reminds me of Deebo from "Friday" the movie. Everyone is scared b/c he's big. Where was Cube when ya needed him? :)


Also, Ron Artest comes to mind. Except this was worse, b/c the black guy wasn't even provoked physically.
 

Pciber

Senior member
Feb 17, 2004
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they just showed this movie on the Today show >_< ... according to them, the guy got 3 years in jail, and the girlfriend goes on trial next month
 

Doggiedog

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

I don't know about you but I'd rather get a beatdown than get tossed in jail for murder even though I didn't start the fight.

Self defense is murder now?

In this case, there is no clear intent that the guy was going to murder the victim. If a person pulled out a knife and tried to kill someone every time a fight was being lost, I would think the victim even if he didn't instigate the fight would be arrested for murder. If the attacker had a knife or weapon himself, then I think pulling a knife would be justified. You also have to take into account that you can be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon like a knife in a lot of places. Again I'd rather get the beatdown than spend 90 days in jail or whatever for carrying a concealed weapon for something I didn't start.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Again I'd rather get the beatdown than spend 90 days in jail or whatever for carrying a concealed weapon for something I didn't start.

And that is where society has failed, protecting the criminal. I'd much rather this dude taking a dirt nap than to see you get beat down.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: gigapet
what happened to taking things outside and squaring up for a fair one....

reminds me of something i saw last spring at this bar....this looney literally takes 4 or 5 steps(yes steps not feet) winding up and throws the biggest haymaker i've ever seen on this kid that was not even looking in his direction. It caught him on the side of his mouth by his chin. He went flying to the ground blood everywhere. What kind of pu$$y takes a 4-5 step wind up for a blindsided cheapshot? absolutely rediculous.

I've seen it happen too. It's lame, but that's what punks are all about these days. Or, coax you into a scrap and then 3 more punks show up out of nowhere to circle kick you.