check out this beatdown!

[SP33Demon]

I have the sound off at work, did they say what type of injuries the guy sustained? Was he ok, or any permanent injury?

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

lol where the hell do you live that its common to see people carry guns and have them showing threw tshirts?

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

I don't know about you but I'd rather get a beatdown than get tossed in jail for murder even though I didn't start the fight.

Self defense is murder now?

In this case, there is no clear intent that the guy was going to murder the victim. If a person pulled out a knife and tried to kill someone every time a fight was being lost, I would think the victim even if he didn't instigate the fight would be arrested for murder. If the attacker had a knife or weapon himself, then I think pulling a knife would be justified. You also have to take into account that you can be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon like a knife in a lot of places. Again I'd rather get the beatdown than spend 90 days in jail or whatever for carrying a concealed weapon for something I didn't start.

That's ridiculous. If someone is attacking you like this, you have every right to stab/shoot/beat them, whatever is necessary, especially if the guy outweighs you 2 to 1. You do not have the luxury of asking the animal, "Do you intend to kill me" while he is pummeling you about the face with his giant gorilla fists.

 

[blakeatwork]

Unless I was with someone else that i trusted to back me up, I don't know if i could have just jumped in... If I did, I think the first thing I would have done was grabbed a pizza pan, and hit him with it edge wise in the face if i could... If nothing else it damage his eyes...

Realistically, it'd be hard to say what i would or wouldn't do... who knows if he has a buddy or two outside, and who knows if they're packing (assuming the US of course).

Sucks to be that dude.. but he really shouldn't have run his mouth off.. whatever happened to just ignoring those types of people.. I mean it's pizza for chrissakes

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

I don't know about you but I'd rather get a beatdown than get tossed in jail for murder even though I didn't start the fight.

Self defense is murder now?

In this case, there is no clear intent that the guy was going to murder the victim. If a person pulled out a knife and tried to kill someone every time a fight was being lost, I would think the victim even if he didn't instigate the fight would be arrested for murder. If the attacker had a knife or weapon himself, then I think pulling a knife would be justified. You also have to take into account that you can be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon like a knife in a lot of places. Again I'd rather get the beatdown than spend 90 days in jail or whatever for carrying a concealed weapon for something I didn't start.

That's ridiculous. If someone is attacking you like this, you have every right to stab/shoot/beat them, whatever is necessary, especially if the guy outweighs you 2 to 1. You do not have the luxury of asking the animal, "Do you intend to kill me" while he is pummeling you about the face with his giant gorilla fists.

Pulling out a knife and stabbing someone in a fight is absolutely ridiculous IMO. Think about it. Fists are one thing but stabbing someone will almost always end up worse. What if you are in a fight and kicking the crap out of somebody. Would it be justified for him to pull out a knife and stab you in self defense?

I'm not siding with the black dude. He definitely should be locked up but allowing people to pull out knives in fights in self defense opens up a huge can of worms legally.

 

[Subzero]

Originally posted by: gabemcg
R

:roll:

 

[vood0g]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Pulling out a knife and stabbing someone in a fight is absolutely ridiculous IMO. Think about it. Fists are one thing but stabbing someone will almost always end up worse. What if you are in a fight and kicking the crap out of somebody. Would it be justified for him to pull out a knife and stab you in self defense?

I'm not siding with the black dude. He definitely should be locked up but allowing people to pull out knives in fights in self defense opens up a huge can of worms legally.

you have got to be out of your fvcking mind to even think that. assuming it is purely self defense (which from the vidclip it is), and i am getting pummelled, i do not see anything wrong with pulling a knife and stabbing the fvcker in the heart.

 

[gscone]

Show u how barbaric our society has come to.

 

[purbeast0]

whats up with a direct link to the video? you can't even save target as on the website ...

it keeps freezing for me in the video, like not even half way through.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

I don't know about you but I'd rather get a beatdown than get tossed in jail for murder even though I didn't start the fight.

Self defense is murder now?

In this case, there is no clear intent that the guy was going to murder the victim. If a person pulled out a knife and tried to kill someone every time a fight was being lost, I would think the victim even if he didn't instigate the fight would be arrested for murder. If the attacker had a knife or weapon himself, then I think pulling a knife would be justified. You also have to take into account that you can be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon like a knife in a lot of places. Again I'd rather get the beatdown than spend 90 days in jail or whatever for carrying a concealed weapon for something I didn't start.

That's ridiculous. If someone is attacking you like this, you have every right to stab/shoot/beat them, whatever is necessary, especially if the guy outweighs you 2 to 1. You do not have the luxury of asking the animal, "Do you intend to kill me" while he is pummeling you about the face with his giant gorilla fists.

You're confusing the way things should be with the way things are. Society spends more time trying to be PC then being right.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: vood0g

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Pulling out a knife and stabbing someone in a fight is absolutely ridiculous IMO. Think about it. Fists are one thing but stabbing someone will almost always end up worse. What if you are in a fight and kicking the crap out of somebody. Would it be justified for him to pull out a knife and stab you in self defense?

I'm not siding with the black dude. He definitely should be locked up but allowing people to pull out knives in fights in self defense opens up a huge can of worms legally.

you have got to be out of your fvcking mind to even think that. assuming it is purely self defense (which from the vidclip it is), and i am getting pummelled, i do not see anything wrong with pulling a knife and stabbing the fvcker in the heart.

nor do i. people have died being beat way less. the guy was beaten unconscious and the black guy kept kicking after that. he could have just as easily died.

 

[Anghang]

Originally posted by: dman
Honestly, I don't know what I would have done in that situation. Lotta variables. Heat of the moment, etc?

My gut tells me I'd be dialing 911 and not getting in the mix. Who knows what else that a-hole has on him, if he has gang friends outside, a gun, etc. It's probably not worth it.

Hard to say though. I know that definitely I'd WANT to help, I just don't know if I'd do it. I'm fairly confident that there's not much I could do in that situation by myself. I know I'm not a fighter, am not trained (in any form), etc. Odds are if I did join in, I'd end up being a punching bag too.

i feel exactly the same way.

 

[intogamer]

They really owned themselves.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Unless I was with someone else that i trusted to back me up, I don't know if i could have just jumped in... If I did, I think the first thing I would have done was grabbed a pizza pan, and hit him with it edge wise in the face if i could... If nothing else it damage his eyes...

Realistically, it'd be hard to say what i would or wouldn't do... who knows if he has a buddy or two outside, and who knows if they're packing (assuming the US of course).

Sucks to be that dude.. but he really shouldn't have run his mouth off.. whatever happened to just ignoring those types of people.. I mean it's pizza for chrissakes

To us, yes. But did you see the SIZE of the biyatch!?! That pizza was damn important to her!! ahah!! btw I don't think enough weight (npi) is being given to the SPIT! That biznatch spit right in buddy's FACE! Nothing says, "I hate you more than anything, ever" more than a spit to the facizzle. crazy a$$ sh!t!!!

 

[Baked]

Here we go again.

 

[Pacfanweb]

3rd thread on this in 2 days.
For those who have posted who couldn't listen and comprehend what was said on the video: The puncher got 4 years PLUS whatever he gets for violating probation.
The chick is up for trial next.

There were at least 3 dudes in the store that were nearly as big and one who was bigger than the puncher. All stood and watched. The victim had no chance to defend himself. It was a sucker punch, and he was basically out on his feet after the first one.

Personally, I'd have gotten the puncher off him....if at least one guy in the store tried to help, odds are others would have joined in...and the puncher would have gotten the ass-kicking he deserved.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: vood0g

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Pulling out a knife and stabbing someone in a fight is absolutely ridiculous IMO. Think about it. Fists are one thing but stabbing someone will almost always end up worse. What if you are in a fight and kicking the crap out of somebody. Would it be justified for him to pull out a knife and stab you in self defense?

I'm not siding with the black dude. He definitely should be locked up but allowing people to pull out knives in fights in self defense opens up a huge can of worms legally.

you have got to be out of your fvcking mind to even think that. assuming it is purely self defense (which from the vidclip it is), and i am getting pummelled, i do not see anything wrong with pulling a knife and stabbing the fvcker in the heart.

If you are in a fist fight with someone and you pull a weapon killing them, there is a very good chance that you will be pressed with charges. It's happened many times before.

 

[Schrodinger]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

I don't know about you but I'd rather get a beatdown than get tossed in jail for murder even though I didn't start the fight.

Self defense is murder now?

In this case, there is no clear intent that the guy was going to murder the victim. If a person pulled out a knife and tried to kill someone every time a fight was being lost, I would think the victim even if he didn't instigate the fight would be arrested for murder. If the attacker had a knife or weapon himself, then I think pulling a knife would be justified. You also have to take into account that you can be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon like a knife in a lot of places. Again I'd rather get the beatdown than spend 90 days in jail or whatever for carrying a concealed weapon for something I didn't start.

That's ridiculous. If someone is attacking you like this, you have every right to stab/shoot/beat them, whatever is necessary, especially if the guy outweighs you 2 to 1. You do not have the luxury of asking the animal, "Do you intend to kill me" while he is pummeling you about the face with his giant gorilla fists.

Pulling out a knife and stabbing someone in a fight is absolutely ridiculous IMO. Think about it. Fists are one thing but stabbing someone will almost always end up worse. What if you are in a fight and kicking the crap out of somebody. Would it be justified for him to pull out a knife and stab you in self defense?

I'm not siding with the black dude. He definitely should be locked up but allowing people to pull out knives in fights in self defense opens up a huge can of worms legally.

That guy could have killed him. I don't think you realize--real life isn't like the movies. You can't take thousands of hits and not break a sweat.

It was unprovocted and not even a "fight"... it was a mauling by an animal. Most courts (despite the sarcasm and cynical outlook of the legal system) would find you not guilty of manslaughter if you put a few .45 rounds in him to stop it.

There would be nothing "morally" wrong if someone had shot him and it resulted in death. With that guy it would have been like putting down a dog (there isn't anything redeemingly "human" about him).

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Schrodinger
That guy could have killed him. I don't think you realize--real life isn't like the movies. You can't take thousands of hits and not break a sweat.

It was unprovocted and not even a "fight"... it was a mauling by an animal. Most courts (despite the sarcasm and cynical outlook of the legal system) would find you not guilty of manslaughter if you put a few .45 rounds in him to stop it.

There would be nothing "morally" wrong if someone had shot him and it resulted in death. With that guy it would have been like putting down a dog (there isn't anything redeemingly "human" about him).

You have a much more optimistic outlook on the court system then I do. I don't think there's anything morally wrong with shooting him either...but then again, I am unlikely to be on my own jury.

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: Schrodinger

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
People wonder why I carry a knife, this is why. That crazy guy started wailiing on me, a few thrusts to the chest and he woulda been done for, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done anything, people say that they would, but the guy was huge, and the threat of him having a gun would have scared me off, and in trying to be as least racial as possible, it's really not uncommon for big black men to carry guns around, I have had numerous occasions where I have waited in line behind men with the outline of pistols impressed in the back of their t-shirts.

I don't know about you but I'd rather get a beatdown than get tossed in jail for murder even though I didn't start the fight.

Self defense is murder now?

In this case, there is no clear intent that the guy was going to murder the victim. If a person pulled out a knife and tried to kill someone every time a fight was being lost, I would think the victim even if he didn't instigate the fight would be arrested for murder. If the attacker had a knife or weapon himself, then I think pulling a knife would be justified. You also have to take into account that you can be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon like a knife in a lot of places. Again I'd rather get the beatdown than spend 90 days in jail or whatever for carrying a concealed weapon for something I didn't start.

That's ridiculous. If someone is attacking you like this, you have every right to stab/shoot/beat them, whatever is necessary, especially if the guy outweighs you 2 to 1. You do not have the luxury of asking the animal, "Do you intend to kill me" while he is pummeling you about the face with his giant gorilla fists.

Pulling out a knife and stabbing someone in a fight is absolutely ridiculous IMO. Think about it. Fists are one thing but stabbing someone will almost always end up worse. What if you are in a fight and kicking the crap out of somebody. Would it be justified for him to pull out a knife and stab you in self defense?

I'm not siding with the black dude. He definitely should be locked up but allowing people to pull out knives in fights in self defense opens up a huge can of worms legally.

That guy could have killed him. I don't think you realize--real life isn't like the movies. You can't take thousands of hits and not break a sweat.

It was unprovocted and not even a "fight"... it was a mauling by an animal. Most courts (despite the sarcasm and cynical outlook of the legal system) would find you not guilty of manslaughter if you put a few .45 rounds in him to stop it.

There would be nothing "morally" wrong if someone had shot him and it resulted in death. With that guy it would have been like putting down a dog (there isn't anything redeemingly "human" about him).

I'm not arguing a moral issue here. I'm talking about a legal issue. If you pull out a knife and kill someone in a fight, you most likely will get charged with murder.

Think about this situation. What if you get into a bar fight with someone and are kicking their ass, would it be ok for them to pull out a knife and try to stab you with it in the name of self-defense?

 

[Schrodinger]

A "fight" is mutual. If I'm at the bar and call some guy's woman a slvt, then we take it outside for a brawl thats one thing.

This video shows something on the other end of the spectrum. The large guy was attempting to inflict serious damage. He didn't look like he was going to stop until the guy hit the ground (and even then he still kept going). And the guy had nothing on him--no way to defend himself in way of size or strength.

If he had of used a gun or a knife I'm sure that the courts would have sided with him. What else could he have done? Take it? Thats absolute stupidity.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Triumph
That's ridiculous. If someone is attacking you like this, you have every right to stab/shoot/beat them, whatever is necessary, especially if the guy outweighs you 2 to 1. You do not have the luxury of asking the animal, "Do you intend to kill me" while he is pummeling you about the face with his giant gorilla fists.

WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! There's far too much logic there. This is the LAW we're talking about, and logic doesn't apply.

 

[meltdown75]

All I'm sayin is that motha f'er and his FAT biyatch wanted some 'za! WORD!

 

[DainBramaged]

I definatly would have joined in the fray.

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: Schrodinger
A "fight" is mutual. If I'm at the bar and call some guy's woman a slvt, then we take it outside for a brawl thats one thing.

This video shows something on the other end of the spectrum. The large guy was attempting to inflict serious damage. He didn't look like he was going to stop until the guy hit the ground (and even then he still kept going). And the guy had nothing on him--no way to defend himself in way of size or strength.

If he had of used a gun or a knife I'm sure that the courts would have sided with him. What else could he have done? Take it? Thats absolute stupidity.

But he didn't. If the victim pulled out a knife and killed him, I'll bet he would be the one sitting in jail. Stupid? Yes. But that's the law.