CBS Reporter sexually assaulted during Egypt celebration

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ericlp

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How often do you see assaults happening in public celebrations here?

PS You haven't read much of the thread have you?


My point is it's no worse here than there. Get over it. I'm sure a lot of them happen in public church's tho no one seems to care about that. Barbaric Bastards. Yeah I read all about it. Apparently you don't comprehend much do you?
 

JEDIYoda

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My point is it's no worse here than there. Get over it. I'm sure a lot of them happen in public church's tho no one seems to care about that. Barbaric Bastards. Yeah I read all about it. Apparently you don't comprehend much do you?

Apparently your a muslim sympathizer or very drunk!
This lady was savagely raped by muslims...not by Christains or Taoists or Athiests, but by a group of out of control muslims.
No!! Crap like that does not happen here in churches or in everyday life in America you idiot!
 
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Infohawk

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My point is it's no worse here than there. Get over it. I'm sure a lot of them happen in public church's tho no one seems to care about that. Barbaric Bastards. Yeah I read all about it. Apparently you don't comprehend much do you?

Are you drunk or just dumb?
 

JEDIYoda

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The behavior of people is all that matters. What the Koran says is academic and provides no solace to those oppressed. Your argument is essentially that the Koran doesn't justify Muslims bad behavior so therefore we can't blame Islam. I reject that logic because a religion is more than its scriptures. The culture is inseparably tied with the religion.

The fact is that Muslim countries treat women worse than other countries with comparable economic conditions. If you look at the report I linked you will see that the bottom four countries on the list are Jordan, Pakistan, Turkey, and Egypt. As an outside observer its not particularly relevant to me whether this is justified by the scripture or not.


lets take this a step further there is no room in Islam for a secular Democratic as we interpret Democratic to be.
You can site Turkey all you want, we all know that the Turkish army physically and brutally put down any uprising!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/01/opinion/01sat4.html

The election of Abdullah Gul, an observant Muslim, to the Turkish presidency was a victory for democracy. The military, which has a habit of defending Turkish secularism at the expense of Turkish democracy, tried to block his candidacy last spring.

Rather than bow to the generals, the government took the issue to the people, who delivered Mr. Gul’s party a mandate in July’s Parliamentary elections, smoothing the way for lawmakers to overwhelmingly approve Mr. Gul for the presidency.

Though nearly all of Turkey’s 70 million people identify themselves as Muslim, the Turkish Constitution calls for strict secularity in public life. The insistence on secularism, in place since the country’s founding in 1923, was intended to counter what were viewed as anti-modern strains within Islam that impeded development. Over time, however, it led to the entrenchment of a secular ruling elite and the exclusion of more openly devout Muslims. In recent years, that observant group — which also accounts for much of the Turkish middle class — has fought back at the ballot box and scored victories.

Secular Turks have been understandably anxious about the ascendancy of Mr. Gul’s Justice and Development party. Widely known for its Islamist roots, the party now holds all the top offices in government. Mr. Gul himself has attracted a great deal of attention because his wife wears the Muslim headscarf, a visceral affront to some secularists.

They fear that religion may creep into government and then into their own lives, encroaching on precious freedoms such as women’s rights. Mr. Gul and his party have pledged to maintain a secular government, and their five-year record in power so far — a time of economic growth and legal reforms that have brought Turkey closer to joining the European Union — suggests that they will keep their word.

The military, which has toppled four elected governments since 1960, waves the banner of Turkey’s founder, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, in its ferocious embrace of secularism. But Ataturk’s ultimate goal was for Turkey to become a Western-style democracy. And in such a democracy, the military exists to serve the government, not the other way around.

The generals, who treasure Turkey’s ties to the West as a member of NATO, have yet to grasp this. On Tuesday, they disrespected the very notion of democratic development by boycotting Mr. Gul’s inauguration. Like their counterparts in other NATO countries, they need to help the elected government to succeed — by staying out of politics.
 

iGas

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damn another muslim apologist.......
It have nothing to do with religion.

I have personally witness women that got groped in Canada, as well as Thailand, Malaysia, and Mexico. And, people attack others randomly as well as reporters all over the world not only in Muslim countries.

And, Israelis are far from immunity.

Israeli Settlers Attack Olive Harvest

Jewish settlers punched and kicked two news photographers and a British woman helping Palestinians pick olives in a West Bank town on Saturday and Israeli police responded by stopping the harvest.

'Jewish settler attack' on film
 

Nebor

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It have nothing to do with religion.

I have personally witness women that got groped in Canada, as well as Thailand, Malaysia, and Mexico. And, people attack others randomly as well as reporters all over the world not only in Muslim countries.

And, Israelis are far from immunity.

Israeli Settlers Attack Olive Harvest

Jewish settlers punched and kicked two news photographers and a British woman helping Palestinians pick olives in a West Bank town on Saturday and Israeli police responded by stopping the harvest.

'Jewish settler attack' on film

None of those are sexual assaults. They're just examples of the violent mindset that those noble settlers are forced to adopt in order to inhabit their land and take it back from the savages living on it currently.
 

iGas

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Do you honestly believe that you could personally be trampled and disoriented and come to thinking and feeling like bubba and his buddies just pounded you in the ass? Really?
None of you guys ever have live through the horrific revolutions or wars to make that judgment. I have live through a war, revolution, and numerous protests. Even the US have had those crazy riot moment.

Anarchy is only 4 meals away.
 
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iGas

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It could have been a handful of them who performed the assault. The key is the remainder did nothing to stop it. Sub-humans.
Totally agree, but we can't lump the entire population under the same umbrella.

The US isn't immune from riots, and rape, but no one say that every American is a fundi rapist, etc...

PS. I have respect for many of the Vietnam Vets on this board even those I don't agree with the US ideology & its administration. But I don't go around and call every Vet & American are rapist/babies killer, because of William Calley and some of his men did.
 
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JEDIYoda is back, with his 100% false posts (how do you do it?)!

This lady was savagely raped by muslims
Uh. No, she wasn't raped by anyone. And no, not even "savagely".

...not by Christains or Taoists or Athiests, but by a group of out of control muslims.
Uh, again wrong. There were Christians and Atheists involved in the mass groping, just like there are in any mass groping in Egypt.

PS - The gropers were "Muslims" and "Christians" as much as the Nazis were "Christians" and "Atheists", as much as Britney Spears is "Christian"....etc. You get the point (as if you "get" anything, really.)

No!! Crap like that does not happen here in churches or in everyday life in America you idiot!
FUNNIEST STATEMENT POSTED BY JEDIYODA EVER. Hey I'll make this my signature if you don't mind.

You are right though, mature females are not the main target of sexual harassment in churches across America.

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Keep the gems flowing
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iGas

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Its also possible that a wizard alien from the future came down on a space ship an altered her memory and the memory off all witnesses to believe that this happened when it didn't. Or we could just the take story at face value.
Face value an reports from the US government & media is what got us in the current IRAQ mess in the first place.

IMHO, it pay to do your home work and learn instead of eating up every words that come out from the spin doctor.
 

the DRIZZLE

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Face value an reports from the US government & media is what got us in the current IRAQ mess in the first place.

IMHO, it pay to do your home work and learn instead of eating up every words that come out from the spin doctor.

Theres a difference between maintaining a skeptical mindset and just pulling things out of your ass.
 

iGas

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Theres a difference between maintaining a skeptical mindset and just pulling things out of your ass.
I said that I would like the full detail of the event before I make the claim rape/attack on the journalist.

I also said that many countries and more than just Muslim that rape/attack reporters.

And Settlers aren't immune from attacking journalist as well as this huge coward that hit an older woman square on the face and destroy reporter equipment.
 
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the DRIZZLE

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I said that I would like the full detail of the event before I make the claim rape/attack on the journalist.

I also said that many countries and more than just Muslim that rape/attack reporters.

And Settlers aren't immune from attacking journalist as well as this huge coward that hit an older woman square on the face and destroy reporter equipment.

What is it with you guys and Israel? I don't understand why you and Tarex keep bringing Israel into this discussion.
 

iGas

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What is it with you guys and Israel? I don't understand why you and Tarex keep bringing Israel into this discussion.
Because there are a few bad seeds in this forum turn every thread into a Muslim are the baaad, etc...

Let me guess, you think Israel was behind 9/11 right?
Put down that pipe because not everything is about Israel. I said that this is incident is not regarding religion, and you guys keeps on saying that it must be them Muslim that causes problem.

And I gave examples that even Israel/Settlers aren't immune from violent just like every other religions/countries.

PS. You guys are doing moderate Jews from all part of the world a disservice by drawing negative attention to yourself by spouting hates.
 
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Nebor

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And I gave examples that even Israel/Settlers aren't immune from violent just like every other religions/countries.

Of course they aren't immune from violence. Violence brought to them by MUSLIMS. The settlers are just trying to live on their rightfully owned land, but must defend it with ferocious violence or be eradicated (and raped it seems) by roaming bands of blood thirsty muslims.
 

the DRIZZLE

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The US is the rape capital of the world by far
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

Every article on this is very vague, nobody can tell what exactly what went on.
But back to your assuming, no matter how far fetched, it's Muslims after all

Your source does not backup your claim. According to that Wikipedia page the rape rate in the United States is about the same as in Europe. Look at the rate for Egypt, its so low that it proves that women have no rights in Egypt and they don't even bother reporting rapes.

This is an example of Moynihan's Law:

“The amount of violations of human rights in a country is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints about human rights violations heard from there. The greater the number of complaints being aired, the better protected are human rights in that country.”
 

Orignal Earl

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Your source does not backup your claim. According to that Wikipedia page the rape rate in the United States is about the same as in Europe. Look at the rate for Egypt, its so low that it proves that women have no rights in Egypt and they don't even bother reporting rapes.

This is an example of Moynihan's Law:

“The amount of violations of human rights in a country is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints about human rights violations heard from there. The greater the number of complaints being aired, the better protected are human rights in that country.”

Ya ok, I'm not going to spend all day breaking the stats all down.
Would it of been better if I said the west has a far worse record.
Saying this does not happen in the US is what I was really just trying to argue against.
I remember when the righties used to point to the low crime in the middle east( because of the way they dealt with it) to justify the death penalty
 

the DRIZZLE

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Ya ok, I'm not going to spend all day breaking the stats all down.
Would it of been better if I said the west has a far worse record.
Saying this does not happen in the US is what I was really just trying to argue against.
I remember when the righties used to point to the low crime in the middle east( because of the way they dealt with it) to justify the death penalty

You posted the page not me. But it is very interesting. The reported rape rate is 25,000% higher in the US than Egypt. There are virtually no reported rapes in Egypt. Either the Egyptians are saints or women don't report rapes because of the legal system and/or social pressures. Which is more plausible?

edit: This reminds of me of Ahmadinejad's "There are no homosexuals in Iran" comment.
 

Infohawk

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Saying this does not happen in the US is what I was really just trying to argue against.

You're confusing rape with a gang rape in a public square. Nobody is saying rape doesn't happen in the US (ridiculous straw man). The idea that someone would be gang raped in Time Square or on the National Mall is fairly absurd. So really "this" doesn't happen here.
 

iGas

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Backlash: Like most women who compete with men, Lara Logan too has used her womanly wiles to get ahead

Like most women who compete with men, Logan too has used her womanly wiles to get ahead. When I met her, not long after she landed the job with CBS, making her a household name in America, she admitted she sometimes used her femininity to get a story.
‘In many Third World countries the belief that women are harmless means we can often pass unnoticed at checkpoints,’ she told me...

Before I met her, I asked other female correspondents what they thought of her. One told me Logan had ‘used her body to get her first job in newspapers’. Another that she wears full make-up while on assignment in war zones.
‘OK,’ Logan said. ‘Let’s start with the one about the fact I got my first job by wearing a mini-skirt and low-cut top. It was my home town of Durban in South Africa, it’s extremely hot, it’s next to the beach, everyone wears T-shirts, and let’s not forget I was 17.’..
I'm not saying assault is right, however the dirt seem to be a bit damning if true.