Canon, Nikon, Fuju Rumors....Well, more than rumors, I'd say.

[Aharami]

that D90 looks nice. any word on pricing?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Aharami
that D90 looks nice. any word on pricing?

$999 body, $1299 kit

 

[ElFenix]

$300 seems a lot for that lens as an included price.


edit: i guess that's half the price of sony's 16-105, but then that lens strikes me as overpriced as well.

edit2: sigma's similar 18-125 OS is $400 in stores, so maybe that's the right price for the nikon.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
$300 seems a lot for that lens as an included price.

Canon had the same MSRP gap ($300) for the 28-135 IS kit lens.

But I agree, they're charging about a $50-$100 premium for VR. That will be the norm until VR/IS becomes a standard feature instead of a bonus.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Canon had the same MSRP gap ($300) for the 28-135 IS kit lens.

i forget that i got tons of % off when i got the 40D kit. i wouldn't have paid that much for that lens, either. maybe i'd pay that much for the nikon considering it's a better standard range than the 28-135 on the canon (not that normal to long portrait is a bad range, but it's hard to find a wide angle complement, though i guess the 17-40 is ok for that)

 

[jpeyton]

Canon G10

-True 5x zoom wide angle lens (28-140mm equivalent.)
-Face Detection can recognize profiles.
-14.7 megapixel capture
-RAW format files editable in Canon Digital Photo Pro (instead of ZoomBrowser/Imagebrowser like the G9)
-ISO up to 1600 with binned pixels lo-rez 3200 scene setting
-ISO dial now wraps around mode dial.
-Exposure Comp has own dial to left of the hotshoe (where the ISO dial was on the G9.)

The Canon Powershot G10 will be available in October 2008. Stay tuned to PopPhoto.com for a full test of this cool new compact camera.

Powershot SX1S (S5IS Replacement)
10mp
20x Zoom
28-560mm
Articulating LCD
Hotshoe
DIGIC 4

SD 990IS
14.7mp
DIGIC 4

SD880IS
10mp
DIGIC 4

 

[pennylane]

Now there are rumors that the 5D Mk II will have a video mode, too.

 

[ElFenix]

This comes from a dude that seems to be right a lot lately.

well that's good enough for me!

 

[pennylane]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

This comes from a dude that seems to be right a lot lately.

well that's good enough for me!

Hey man, that's a CR3 level rumor. "Believable rumor, from a source with average credibility"

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Canon G10

-True 5x zoom wide angle lens (28-140mm equivalent.)
-Face Detection can recognize profiles.
-14.7 megapixel capture
-RAW format files editable in Canon Digital Photo Pro (instead of ZoomBrowser/Imagebrowser like the G9)
-ISO up to 1600 with binned pixels lo-rez 3200 scene setting
-ISO dial now wraps around mode dial.
-Exposure Comp has own dial to left of the hotshoe (where the ISO dial was on the G9.)

The Canon Powershot G10 will be available in October 2008. Stay tuned to PopPhoto.com for a full test of this cool new compact camera.

Powershot SX1S (S5IS Replacement)
10mp
20x Zoom
28-560mm
Articulating LCD
Hotshoe
DIGIC 4

SD 990IS
14.7mp
DIGIC 4

SD880IS
10mp
DIGIC 4

A 1/1.7" sensor with 14.7 MP camera that produce usable shots at iso1600 would be INSANE!!! DIGIC4 must be some magical algorithm that lets you "zoom zoom zoom, enhance enhance enhance!", otherwise I'd expect reallllly noisy images out of a small sensor with that many pixels
Of course it doesn't mean that it will have usable ISO1600, but I figure if they have an option bin up to ISO3200...then ISO1600 has to be useable in one form or another.

 

[ivan2]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
Now there are rumors that the 5D Mk II will have a video mode, too.

yeah get on the band wagon canon.

 

[Heidfirst]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
$300 seems a lot for that lens as an included price.


edit: i guess that's half the price of sony's 16-105, but then that lens strikes me as overpriced as well.

I've yet to see anybody actually buy the 16-105mm as a separate lens, but it's definitely a superior kit lens in which case it's also about a $300 addon.
Strange thing is that it doesn't lab test that well but everyone that uses it rates it pretty highly ...

 

[jpeyton]

Two more rumors from the Nikon camp. One was expected...the AF 85mm f/1.4D is getting pulled from Nikon's site, probably to make room for the AF-S upgrade.

The other relates to the Nikon teaser ad in the rangefinder magazine: someone sent a cell phone spy shot of a magazine that has a new Nikon sensor format listed.

We know DX. We know FX. Get ready to meet...MX.

Max resolution: 6380x6380 :shocked: A native square format sensor? That would break new ground.

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Two more rumors from the Nikon camp. One was expected...the AF 85mm f/1.4D is getting pulled from Nikon's site, probably to make room for the AF-S upgrade...

Does the current 85mm 1.4 have an SWM? If it doesn't, is that expected now along with the AF-S mount?

 

[soydios]

There are also square resolutions listed on that page for FX, and those resolutions exceed the vertical resolution of the D3. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Why shoot square? There are no square printing formats; the closest is 4:5. It just doesn't gel with the workflow, and with the D3 Nikon improved workflow with the 4:5 viewfinder mask option. Thus it doesn't make sense for them to throw a new obstacle into the workflow: composing in 1:1 and printing in 4:5 or 2:3.

 

[jpeyton]

No, the current 85 1.4 is screw drive AF; the new one will have SWM.

No idea what the resolution tables mean. But Nikon was supposed to release a unique camera, and this would certainly be one.

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
No, the current 85 1.4 is screw drive AF; the new one will have SWM.

No idea what the resolution tables mean. But Nikon was supposed to release a unique camera, and this would certainly be one.

That will be good news for Nikon guys that love primes.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: soydios
There are also square resolutions listed on that page for FX, and those resolutions exceed the vertical resolution of the D3. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Why shoot square? There are no square printing formats; the closest is 4:5. It just doesn't gel with the workflow, and with the D3 Nikon improved workflow with the 4:5 viewfinder mask option. Thus it doesn't make sense for them to throw a new obstacle into the workflow: composing in 1:1 and printing in 4:5 or 2:3.

Have you tried 6x6 film? It's really good!

 

[ElFenix]

what's under the red question mark!

 

[pennylane]

Nikon Rumors is 85% confident about these 3 new lenses:

AF-S 50mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)
AF-S 85mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)
AF-S 70-200mm 2.8 VRII - replacement is coming (confirmed)

 

[Deadtrees]

A900

24.6 MP Full Frame Sensor
5.0 fps
Dual "Bionz" Processors
Viewfinder 100% coverage @ 0.74x magnification
3.0" VGA LCD
9 point dual cross AF (with f2.8 sensor and wide area 10 point assist)
SuperSteadyShot
Weather Sealing
Battery Grip is not built-in
No pop-up flash
No movie mode

 

[soydios]

Why do Sony/Canon remove the pop-up flash on their non-integrated-grip pro cameras? It's immensely useful for wireless flash or low-power direct fill.

What's the word on the A900's price? If it's cheaper than the 5DmkII and D700 then it could be in a really good position once it hits the market.

 

[ElFenix]

slrgear tested the nikon 18-105 and i'd pick it over the sony going on those.

but as was pointed out above, people who use the sony seem to like it.

9 point dual cross AF (with f2.8 sensor and wide area 10 point assist)

i'm guessing those 10 are hidden and non-selectable like the extra areas on the 5D.

sony is smart about where they're positioning this camera. buying into the system for a studio photographer with some shorter lenses and a 2.8 portrait zoom is easier on the wallet than trying to go after the sports photographers with cases full of ridiculously expensive glass. not to mention the fact that sony doesn't yet have all that fast glass and sonic motors. they also don't have to figure out how to build a ~10 fps shutter and AF system that can cope.

i honestly think canon is more concerned about sony than nikon. nikon is very small in comparison to either sony or canon (iirc, canon is actually valued higher than sony, behind only N and toyota for japanese companies). it would make sense if a new 5D (3D) were aimed right at sony.

dpreview's cheaper full frame seems like it'd come from canon. A900 looks has stats too good to be much cheaper than the D700, whereas canon could basically slap a 12 MP sensor in a plastic body and sell it for $1999. not that sony couldn't, but there really is no indication that they're headed that direction.

 

[pennylane]

Deadtrees,
Where did you get the specs from? I'm not doubting you, I just want a link to show some friends.

 

[ElFenix]

7D?

Originally posted by: fanerman91
Deadtrees,
Where did you get the specs from? I'm not doubting you, I just want a link to show some friends.

advertisement in this month's national geographic, apparently.

edit: the guy who posted it on DP has retracted the weather seal comment, the ad did not explicitly state that or not.

Originally posted by: soydios
Why do Sony/Canon remove the pop-up flash on their non-integrated-grip pro cameras? It's immensely useful for wireless flash or low-power direct fill.

the only thing pro about the 5D was it's price, now i'm not even sure i'd consider that pro.

the 1v doesn't have a flash or an integrated grip, and it is decidedly pro. nor does the nikon F6.

and it's not really that they removed it, i don't think any canon pro camera has ever had a pop up flash.

nikon's first pop up flash appears to have been the F70 in 1994. canon's was the eos 750 in 1988. minolta's first slr with a built in flash was 1989, but it wasn't pop up. pentax sf-1 was the first SLR with a built in flash, in 1987.