Can someone please explain the Taylor Swift thing to me

[lxskllr]

Changed my mind about her. Her voice fucking sucks.

My niece (6yo) came to visit and NEEDED to have TSs CD on heavy rotation in the car.

Her voice is really, really dull, she has no range, no power, very little emotion to it. She really is a really crappy singer even for a teen pop star.

I pulled drivers privilege and made her listen to kraftwerk and can for several hours.

Oh yes there were tears.

If I'm driving, you're listening to my mp3 player or phone on shuffle. If you don't like any of the numerous genres I have, you don't like music, and your opinion is invalid.

A whole album of TS at one time violates the Geneva convention.

 

[WelshBloke]

If I'm driving, you're listening to my mp3 player or phone on shuffle. If you don't like any of the numerous genres I have, you don't like music, and your opinion is invalid.

I can listen to just about anything with a bit of creativity and talent to it. 80s rave through death metal to candy pop, taking in a detour to opera and avant guard, resting for a while in grunge before moving through punk, folk and electonica.

Just don't make it bland. Life's too short to choose dull.

A whole album of TS at one time violates the Geneva convention.

It was when it started for the 3rd time that did it.

Its soo bland. Its like being fed plain porridge for every meal for a month.

Really, really horrible.

 

[Skel]

I can listen to just about anything with a bit of creativity and talent to it. 80s rave through death metal to candy pop, taking in a detour to opera and avant guard, resting for a while in grunge before moving through punk, folk and electonica.

Just don't make it bland. Life's too short to choose dull.



It was when it started for the 3rd time that did it.

Its soo bland. Its like being fed plain porridge for every meal for a month.

Really, really horrible.

That's my issue with her. She's so bland musically. I sometimes get in trouble because I use her as my walking example of what's wrong with music today. I'm convinced the labels have blended down music to be non-offensive and appeal to preteen girls, which is TS. I couldn't tell you if she's one way or the other as a artist, she does make a great product for the masses though.

 

[Muse]

Can someone please explain the Taylor Swift thing to me

Some people don't want their music to be difficult in any way. They are at a stage in life where their relationships are tenuous, they are uncertain about themselves, what life's about, maybe where they are going, might go, what to do, etc. They gravitate to middle of the road music, performers/performances that are a common ground pablum. There are many declensions of this.

 

[WelshBloke]

Some people don't want their music to be difficult in any way.

This is true. Some people want "elevator music" as a background to their life.

 

[Muse]

This is true. Some people want "elevator music" as a background to their life.

It is insidious. It can creep up on you without your knowing. When I realize I'm being lulled, effectively hypnotized by some music I turn it off, if I'm able to do so, and I usually am. This happens a lot! There's a whole lot of music that doesn't do that, thankfully! I prefer music that shakes you into wakefulness one way or another.

 

[Pacfanweb]

By Hollywood or the modeling world standards TS is average at best, but by everyday standards she'd be the hot girl most any place she went.

And, as should be clear for guys like Quebert there are plenty of guys that not only are not attracted to girls like TS but actually hate the fact that girls like her get any attention at all. The rat comparison is, well, mind boggling.

Given a choice between Nina Agdal and TS I'd take Nina 10/10 times, but I'd find it hard to say no to TS in Nina's absence.


Brian

Geez, dude...TS and that Agdal chick aren't even on the same planet, looks-wise. Agdal blows her away.

Taylor Swift is cute...sort of. She has essentially no body. No boobs, no butt, no hips, no curves at ALL. She IS skinny, and she's cute...and that's good enough for many.

But if we're talking strictly looks....no, she wouldn't be the "hot chick" in most places. She's be the "she's cute and I'd hit it but she's stick" girl.

If you're comparing her to other actress or singer hotties? No she does not stack up at all. She wouldn't be in the top 10 list (maybe not top 20) of currently popular hotties.

As far as her talents go...meh. She doesn't sing that well. Certainly has a forgettable voice. She CAN sound okay...in other words, she can carry a tune sometimes, but she's no "great" in the sense that she's always in tune like a great singer typically is. Check her performance with Stevie Nicks to see how that goes.

She can write songs that appeal to the pop audience at the moment...I'll give her that.

My prediction: 10-15 years from now, she's forgotten. She'll probably still be touring and selling some tickets, but she'll be in Jessica Simpson territory...mostly forgotten.

 

[lxskllr]

It is insidious. It can creep up on you without your knowing. When I realize I'm being lulled, effectively hypnotized by some music I turn it off, if I'm able to do so, and I usually am. This happens a lot! There's a whole lot of music that doesn't do that, thankfully! I prefer music that shakes you into wakefulness one way or another.

I like mellow music, but elevator music is insipid. Many times I don't want to hear tight, predictable structure, so I listen to ambient, space, post rock... Elevator music takes real structured music, removes the musicality, and makes it white bread bland.

 

[bbhaag]

I don't mind her music. It's easy to listen too.

"I only listen to music that is mellow and has a distinct sound"..."Her music is so bland".....Good lord.
This thread has kinda turned into a wine drinkers thread. It's so pretentious.

 

[lxskllr]

I don't mind her music. It's easy to listen too.

"I only listen to music that is mellow and has a distinct sound"..."Her music is so bland".....Good lord.
This thread has kinda turned into a wine drinkers thread. It's so pretentious.

Haven't read the whole thread, but disliking Swift isn't a sign of pretentiousness. Swift is to music what tv dinners are to dining. Deriding Swanson pot pies isn't pretentious unless you live in the ghetto.

 

[WelshBloke]

Haven't read the whole thread, but disliking Swift isn't a sign of pretentiousness.

No. Apparently you have to have no preference in music and like whatever crud is played at you.

 

[Murloc]

She's blonde, young, thin, white, tall, attractive, American, and has blue eyes -- not sure about the last one, probably true.

She also seems to bond well with her fans, isn't a big bitch always doing drugs and partying with photos of her drunk off her ass lying in the street, comes off incredibly nice, actually. No confirmed nudes yet either.

yeah this is a factor I think.

I don't mind her music. It's easy to listen too.

"I only listen to music that is mellow and has a distinct sound"..."Her music is so bland".....Good lord.
This thread has kinda turned into a wine drinkers thread. It's so pretentious.

not pretentious.
She does make generic american pop music that contains always the same things or effects as countless other singers. Typical radio songs.
You may not mind it listening to it, because it's desigend exactly for that: being bland, so that nobody can hate it, but this also means it won't be liked much.

Not the same genre as Taylor Swift, but still applies to many popular american singers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Gs4xGw1Eg

 

[Sephire]

"Let It Go"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1gPftkJS-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSFIaRSw0n0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzwPkz2OoTg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osVSsCMLT3s

 

[blankslate]

It's because mashups make her songs better....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhvXST1Rc3g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY-TIB_K3zA

aside from that it's because many girls want to be her and no small amount of males want to do sex with her.


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[Imp]

I've gotten into Grimes lately... She kind of looks like Miley Cyrus but doesn't rely on flashing her tits over and over every opportunity just for shock value.

https://youtu.be/vIi57zhDl78

 

[Engineer]

http://www.businessinsider.com/tayl...e-than-jay-z-diddy-and-drake-combined-2015-10

Staggering!!!

 

[ControlD]

I've gotten into Grimes lately... She kind of looks like Miley Cyrus but doesn't rely on flashing her tits over and over every opportunity just for shock value.

What the hell's the point of that?

 

[Linux23]

And she's so freaking hot too

 

[MongGrel]

http://www.businessinsider.com/tayl...e-than-jay-z-diddy-and-drake-combined-2015-10

Staggering!!!

Even is I have rarely listened to her at all, she does have the whole pop music thing almost down to a science, she has a loyal fan base that she pays attention to, she hasn't tarnished her image, basically what many have said here all ready.

And she is hot. If she can get dissed by Victoria Secret models one year and come back the next and through it in a few faces of a few she is doing things right at many levels.

Good Lord, $1 Million a day, I knew she was raking it in, but not that highly.

 

[Blackjack200]

Hopefully Calvin Harris will dump her soon so she can write an album about it and make another half billion dollars.

 

[IGBT]

pop culture industry creation to sell noise disguised as music.

 

[werepossum]

Haven't read the whole thread, but disliking Swift isn't a sign of pretentiousness. Swift is to music what tv dinners are to dining. Deriding Swanson pot pies isn't pretentious unless you live in the ghetto.

lol +1

Taylor Swift music is easy to listen to in the same way that airport canned announcements about the red and white zones are easy to listen to.

 

[Imp]

What the hell's the point of that?

That I'm tired of seeing Miley Cyrus 99% nude (pasties!) be it magazine spreads, music videos, award shows, etc. because it shows up on TV and news websites almost every time -- I don't go looking for it. She can do what she wants, it's just boring to see it over and over again so often. And I'm pretty sure she does it for shock/business value. On the other hand, maybe my problem is that the news keeps picking it up.

 

[Brian Stirling]

That I'm tired of seeing Miley Cyrus 99% nude (pasties!) be it magazine spreads, music videos, award shows, etc. because it shows up on TV and news websites almost every time -- I don't go looking for it. She can do what she wants, it's just boring to see it over and over again so often. And I'm pretty sure she does it for shock/business value. On the other hand, maybe my problem is that the news keeps picking it up.

Miley may be pushing the limits and you and I can agree on that, but she's not that far behind TS in yearly income so something she's doing is working.

The music business has always been more image over substance but with file sharing the money is no longer in selling records or CD's so all the "artists" bank on making the money from concerts and appearances. When the game is so heavily weighted by image it's hardly a surprise that Miley and others do what they do to get attention.

Which makes TS's success all the more impressive given that she does NOT do the stripper act. The fact that TS's voice is sub average by even the crappy standards of today makes her success even more remarkable. In an industry with 5/10 voices and few much better than 7/10 TS is more like 3/10 and still rules the world.

I do find it hysterical that many here claim she's average looking at best. On what planet is TS average looking. Once again, given a choice between her and Nina Agdal it would be Nina 100% of the time, but would I pass up a shot at TS if Nina wasn't available???


Brian

 

[jlee]

Miley may be pushing the limits and you and I can agree on that, but she's not that far behind TS in yearly income so something she's doing is working.

The music business has always been more image over substance but with file sharing the money is no longer in selling records or CD's so all the "artists" bank on making the money from concerts and appearances. When the game is so heavily weighted by image it's hardly a surprise that Miley and others do what they do to get attention.

Which makes TS's success all the more impressive given that she does NOT do the stripper act. The fact that TS's voice is sub average by even the crappy standards of today makes her success even more remarkable. In an industry with 5/10 voices and few much better than 7/10 TS is more like 3/10 and still rules the world.

I do find it hysterical that many here claim she's average looking at best. On what planet is TS average looking. Once again, given a choice between her and Nina Agdal it would be Nina 100% of the time, but would I pass up a shot at TS if Nina wasn't available???


Brian

pointy elbows, bro

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