California giving drivers license's to illegals

[Humpy]

I know, wanting people to obeying the law is racist.

Seriously, how is "wanting people to obey the law" an argument against the issue brought up in the OP when the whole point is that California has now made it possible for more people to obey the law?

 

[WackyDan]

LOL. I was responding to the (your) equally stupid suggestion that all neighboring states should stop selling CA power in order to punish them (or something?).

So now you see WackyDan, that your own stupidity begets stupidity!

Better hit the books! I suggest you start at the Dictionary definition for "hypocrite"

Point is asshole... CA isn't self sufficient. As great as you think your state is, it relies heavily on it's neighbors due to CA's own stupidity in infrastructure planning - namely grid.

Any one, or more of those carriers can at any time decide not to renew contracts with CA for power. What are you going to do? Build more coal fired plants across the border in Mexico?

 

[TreVader]

Point is asshole... CA isn't self sufficient. As great as you think your state is, it relies heavily on it's neighbors due to CA's own stupidity in infrastructure planning - namely grid.



Any one, or more of those carriers can at any time decide not to renew contracts with CA for power. What are you going to do? Build more coal fired plants across the border in Mexico?

Are we going to continue on this vein of bringing up hypothetical stupid possibilities that will never happen, and then alternatively calling each other stupid for doing so?

That would never, ever happen. Yes we aren't self sufficient, that's because we don't have to be. Is your state "self sufficient"?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Point is asshole... CA isn't self sufficient. As great as you think your state is, it relies heavily on it's neighbors due to CA's own stupidity in infrastructure planning - namely grid.

Any one, or more of those carriers can at any time decide not to renew contracts with CA for power. What are you going to do? Build more coal fired plants across the border in Mexico?

They don`t call you Wacky Dan for nothing......

 

[boomerang]

Of course you didn't get it right.

The real choice is, you're driving down the road and hundreds of thousands of people who aren't supposed to be in the country in the first place, AREN'T, therefore you're not driving with them.

Anyone caught driving without a licence or under the influence should have their car impounded immediately and charged hefty enough fines that virtually no one would want to risk doing that. And for citizens- it is pretty much like that.

For illegals?

Nope!

LAPD's No-Tow Policy For The Unlicensed & Undocumented is Safe For Now

http://www.laweekly.com/informer/20...e-unlicensed-and-undocumented-is-safe-for-now


Yup, you read that right.

Nobody fucks with the slave trade.

Reward the bad, punish the good. Insane policies devised by people with Progressive Brain Defects. We can't afford them anymore. They must be stopped.

 

[Matt1970]

Called it!!

Most people would realize your question was answered by me showing how utterly ridiculous it is.

 

[Matt1970]

Seriously, how is "wanting people to obey the law" an argument against the issue brought up in the OP when the whole point is that California has now made it possible for more people to obey the law?

No, California is changing the law so it is possible for more people to obey the law.

 

[JEDIYoda]

No, California is changing the law so it is possible for more people to obey the law.

I saw what you did....
In changing the law they are not making it any less difficult to get a drivers license and they are not making it easier and they did not lower the requirements to get a drivers license...still take the test and pass and then the behind the wheel test and then pass and then need insurance to drive your car........

I guess they are not actually changing law so much as including more people so that more can drive responsibly....now that's a novel concept.....

 

[Humpy]

No, California is changing the law so it is possible for more people to obey the law.

It seems like you said No, and then repeated what I said.


To drive in CA it is required by law to be licensed.

More licensed drivers = more people obeying the law.

CA changing the law to allow for more licensed drivers = more people obeying the law.

You and I want more people obeying the law.

Therefore you and I want CA to allow for more licensed drivers.

They did that so we are happy.



I feel like I took a wrong turn somewhere and ended up in a food fight at the Special Olympics after party and I decided to stay for dinner.

 

[Matt1970]

It seems like you said No, and then repeated what I said.


To drive in CA it is required by law to be licensed.

More licensed drivers = more people obeying the law.

CA changing the law to allow for more licensed drivers = more people obeying the law.

You and I want more people obeying the law.

Therefore you and I want CA to allow for more licensed drivers.

They did that so we are happy.



I feel like I took a wrong turn somewhere and ended up in a food fight at the Special Olympics after party and I decided to stay for dinner.

But you want laws changed to make a current activity no longer illegal. That's like making assault legal and then claim you reduced crime.

 

[Humpy]

But you want laws changed to make a current activity no longer illegal. That's like making assault legal and then claim you reduced crime.

Changing the requirements for a driver's license isn't much different than changing the requirements for a fishing license, contractor's license, CPA, or a Bachelor degree. The intent is to set minimum standards and generate revenue. It's a big leap to connect a person's driving ability to their immigration status, gender, or ethnicity, etc.

For some reason, a DL has become an official document used for a bunch of things other than a simple license to drive. And people want to attach even more significance, having it become a license to vote, etc. It doesn't make sense to combine various State licensing arrangements with Federal immigration or Constitutional issues because there is little legal backbone to support it. For ex. a State can decide to no longer issue licenses of any kind or go to the opposite extreme pretty much on a whim.

Anyways, all of that is mostly valueless shuffling of paperwork, standing in the right lines without crossing another, indicating one's current status, following signs, initialing boxes, and making payment on time to the wise and beautiful woman behind the window. That's it.

It is difficult believe that paperwork procedures can honestly be compared to assault, home invasions, and violent crime or spun into outlandish theories of invasion, slavery, and the imminent collapse of America.

 

[ivwshane]

But you want laws changed to make a current activity no longer illegal. That's like making assault legal and then claim you reduced crime.

Wow!

 

[Matt1970]

Wow!

Wow indeed.

 

[marincounty]

Point is asshole... CA isn't self sufficient. As great as you think your state is, it relies heavily on it's neighbors due to CA's own stupidity in infrastructure planning - namely grid.

Any one, or more of those carriers can at any time decide not to renew contracts with CA for power. What are you going to do? Build more coal fired plants across the border in Mexico?

Enron and a bunch of out of state companies already tried this. It didn't end well for them. Enron is bankrupt and employees went to jail. California is out billions of dollars the citizens were swindled out of, and the Republican governor refused to pursue legal actions to recover the money.
How about California decides to not sell food to your state? Would you like that?

 

[JEDIYoda]

But you want laws changed to make a current activity no longer illegal. That's like making assault legal and then claim you reduced crime.

Why do you always use bogus examples that do not apply at all??

By changing the law to allow more people to study and take the test and the drivers test as well as have insurance is NOT the same thing as making assault legal....
Why are you being such a buffoon??

 

[Chaotic42]

How about we federalize? I've never been a fan of strong states.

 

[Matt1970]

Why do you always use bogus examples that do not apply at all??

By changing the law to allow more people to study and take the test and the drivers test as well as have insurance is NOT the same thing as making assault legal....
Why are you being such a buffoon??

How is that a bogus example? Your solution to so many people breaking the law is to change the law. Illegals are not even supposed to be here.

 

[JEDIYoda]

How is that a bogus example? Your solution to so many people breaking the law is to change the law. Illegals are not even supposed to be here.

You really are narrow minded! How Is this hurting you to have an illegal alien who would be driving illegally with no insurance..ad hsving having an illegal alien driving and having passed all the test who knows the laws and is insured??

I do not fathom how you can be so butt hurt over this?? It does not directly affect you at all.......
I would venture to say if you were in a serious accident with some illegal alien driving that you ought to be thankful that they have the proper papers and are insured?? YES__NO??

 

[michal1980]

You really are narrow minded! How Is this hurting you to have an illegal alien who would be driving illegally with no insurance..ad hsving having an illegal alien driving and having passed all the test who knows the laws and is insured??

I do not fathom how you can be so butt hurt over this?? It does not directly affect you at all.......
I would venture to say if you were in a serious accident with some illegal alien driving that you ought to be thankful that they have the proper papers and are insured?? YES__NO??

Why is the left so dead set on giving illegals more rights? Its just another slide down that slippery slope the left claims doesn't exist with illegals. Instead of making their lives more difficult so they level, the left activity works to make the illegals live easier.

The illegal broke into our country, the illegal is taking American jobs, the illegal is lowering wages. And yet the left continues to work for the illegal. Why? I don't get it. What happened to the left that they no longer care about Americans, and the middle class American.

I get the right, they want slave labor for big corp. The left I cannot understand why they are so in bed with the illegal movement.

Getting in an accident with someone licensed is somehow better then an accident with someone not licensed?

 

[Matt1970]

You really are narrow minded! How Is this hurting you to have an illegal alien who would be driving illegally with no insurance..ad hsving having an illegal alien driving and having passed all the test who knows the laws and is insured??

I do not fathom how you can be so butt hurt over this?? It does not directly affect you at all.......
I would venture to say if you were in a serious accident with some illegal alien driving that you ought to be thankful that they have the proper papers and are insured?? YES__NO??

Insults, Signs of a really weak argument. You know damn well all you want is more democrat voters here and giving them driver licenses is just one step closer to that goal. I, like most insurance policies, have uninsured driver coverage.

 

[ivwshane]

Lol! "It's just one step closer to letting them vote!!"

Says every right wing nut job!

 

[Matt1970]

Lol! "It's just one step closer to letting them vote!!"

Says every right wing nut job!

And every left wing nut job. and those in the middle. Everybody kinda already knows that.

 

[ivwshane]

And every left wing nut job. and those in the middle. Everybody kinda already knows that.

Nope, only your tin foil hat buddies think or say this.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Insults, Signs of a really weak argument. You know damn well all you want is more democrat voters here and giving them driver licenses is just one step closer to that goal. I, like most insurance policies, have uninsured driver coverage.

Most insurance policies don`t have uninsured coverage.....also the resal matter is you did not address the question I posed.....

It is far better to have an illegal alien who has passed the tests and is insured to drive a car, rather than one who is not.....

You keep dodging that singular issue.....it`s a win, win as far as coverage....

You must really be butt hurt, for how long now...ever since Obama took office???
I cannot fathom how uyou honestly believe this is about votes?

A drivers license cannot be used as proof of citizenship...or are you just really butt hurt??

Of course I am using insults you cannot reason with an idiot!!

 

[Humpy]

The illegal broke into our country, the illegal is taking American jobs, the illegal is lowering wages. And yet the left continues to work for the illegal. Why?

Yes, the illegal broke into our country. In reality, little was done to prevent it or correct it. If that is a concern do not allow yourself to become distracted away from who and how that problem should be solved. The States can't really do anything about it other than deal with the aftermath.

Why can't the "right" (LOL @ left & right) focus on the real issue instead of spewing so much bullshit? How difficult is it to vote in one of your guys to secure the border of the greatest nation on Earth? It's just way too hard, right? In the end all that the anti-illegal immigrant contingent accomplishes is to lurk behind their curtains, like that nosy bitch from the HOA, and complain about people (probably rapists!) not having their paperwork in order or parking on the wrong side of the street.

Personally, I see very little evidence (angry bloggers don't count as evidence) that illegal immigration is measurably taking away jobs or lowering wages to an extent that it should be at the top of the list. Currently it is more or less a break even issue.